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cleveland February 28th, 2009 01:18 PM

Re: EA Arco - uncle moneybags
 
DC, clearly you've never tried clevelandCBMver00000007revCy2008m02d13t1432GMT.dm, else you'd understand the true potential of moded mods, and how easy they are to keep track of. :D

DonCorazon February 28th, 2009 01:27 PM

Re: EA Arco - uncle moneybags
 
Cleve, what is your ETA on getting the Forging Reference updated for ChrisCBM? :)

lch February 28th, 2009 01:29 PM

Re: EA Arco - uncle moneybags
 
I wish the discussion starting from this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonCorazon (Post 677324)
Sorry, I cannot resist comment on this, though its off topic.

would have been in the respective CBM / ChrisCBM threads instead.

chrispedersen February 28th, 2009 01:50 PM

Re: EA Arco - uncle moneybags
 
Rather than continuee to hijaak the thread, I've moved my responses here:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...t=42435&page=2

Baalz February 28th, 2009 03:57 PM

Re: EA Arco - uncle moneybags
 
....and back onto EA Arco. I fully concede that the white bull is not as versatile late game as some other chasises, but for this build you want three things:

1) An awake expansion pretender
2) Very good scales
3) A minor E/N blessing

Good luck affording all that with a pretender who is also top shelf for late game. If you've got a suggestion for one that would work better I'm listening. I also think you discount his combat utility a bit too much, having that invincible battering ram zooming about like superman set to attack rearmost not only makes me happy to think about, it certainly is the sort of thing that will wreck an opponents day in many situations. You won't be using him to singlehandedly take down armies, but used as part of your overall strategy you shouldn't have too hard a time putting him to good use.

@Aezeal - he's got over 200 hitpoints with just one candle, so pushing a strong dominion is certainly not required. You don't want to send him into strong enemy dominion of course, but mildly friendly should be fine along with all those buffs. I didn't mention it, but you'll want to put up enough temples in those forts to make sure your nice dominion covers all your land. He's only got two misc slots, so I'd outfit him generally as I said with an amulet of MR and a ring of whatever resistance seemed best at the time (lighting by default as it's the biggest danger).

@Redeyes - yeah, swarm will give all kinds of different SCs problems, Oreiads included. Haven't tested it, but size 4 wyvern bodyguards should be a fairly effective screen against swarm I'd think.

@analytic_kernel - yeah, I agree. Maybe I didn't make it super clear, but I do mention chariots are your goto guys outside of your capital. There are lots of situations where chariots are next to useless though, anybody who sticks a couple crushers at the front of their army will pretty much ruin your day if all you've got is chariots. Myrmidons certainly have a niche in your army.

@Dragar - The earth is an very important component of the blessing. It doubles the effective time your wind riders can fight which is important for units used in smaller numbers. It's also a non negligible benefit to your Oreiads, and as central as they are to your strategy it seems like a good idea to invest in them.

cleveland February 28th, 2009 06:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tichy (Post 677242)
Hey there -- I did up the white bull. With those scales dom 5 and E4N4 you seem to have 65 points left over.

Am I missing something?

If not, it seems you could either take dom 6 and N5 with 3 points left, or keep dom 5 and get rid of either the cold or death.

I noticed the same thing, but I have 48 points left over. Under both CBM 1.41 & CBM 1.3. Hilarious, really.

Totally agree with taking Dom6 + N5...Faery Trod + Army of Lead = Goodnight Irene. Put that in your lategame usefulness pipe and smoke it.

Alternately, I recommend taking another point of Cold and investing in some Blood magic. Why? Because it's the funniest image in all of Dominions:
Arcoscepalian Squire, nervously clutching Sanguine Dousing Rod: "Er, Highness? You want me to put it WHERE?"
Great White Bull: "MOOOOOOO!"

Horn of Valor is a close second. :D

KissBlade February 28th, 2009 06:37 PM

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I'm actually fond of the Green Dragon chassis in CBM for a bless. mostly because he flies as well!

Fantomen February 28th, 2009 07:23 PM

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[quote=cleveland;677406]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tichy (Post 677242)
Alternately, I recommend taking another point of Cold and investing in some Blood magic. Why? Because it's the funniest image in all of Dominions:
Arcoscepalian Squire, nervously clutching Sanguine Dousing Rod: "Er, Highness? You want me to put it WHERE?"
Great White Bull: "MOOOOOOO!"

Horn of Valor is a close second. :D

:D A somewhat less obscene but likewise fitting piece of gear would be the bell of cleansing.

Wrana February 28th, 2009 09:21 PM

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Also, the Blue Dragon makes Wind Riders very heavy-hitting while protecting Oreiaedes. Still, Earth bless is very good. And Bull is VERY thematic here. :)

DonCorazon February 28th, 2009 09:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fantomen (Post 677418)
:D A somewhat less obscene but likewise fitting piece of gear would be the bell of cleansing.

I am so glad you didn't say Bag of Wind, that would have just been sick :)


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