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chrispedersen May 6th, 2009 04:08 PM

Re: How to fight EA Abysia?
 
Agree with Jim - PoTS with one mage, skel spam with the others. Will last way long enough for the androphags to do their thing.

Xietor May 6th, 2009 04:10 PM

Re: How to fight EA Abysia?
 
Use Wolven winter if possible on his capital to reduce income. Also use it on any prospective battlefields.

Properly equipped thugs like banelords with eye shields and 100 fr can mow through any of their castle bought troops.

Executor May 6th, 2009 06:02 PM

Re: How to fight EA Abysia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xietor (Post 689583)
Properly equipped thugs like banelords with eye shields and 100 fr can mow through any of their castle bought troops.

But not Burning Ones, those bastards are hard to kill.
I tested an Air Queen for one game with, eye shield, frost brend, fear helmet, marble armor, lucky pendant and fire ring and still they kicked the shhh... out of her.
However leech worked like a charm.

Xietor May 6th, 2009 06:48 PM

Re: How to fight EA Abysia?
 
My banelords killed burning ones double 9 blessed in the big game. Give them ring regen, luck, boots quickness, eye shield, fire brand(been months since i played dom III think that is name of ap 50 fr sword), dragon helm, some good light armor.

I usually sent them in pairs or even in a group of 3. Mage support is good, but not essential.

Dragar May 6th, 2009 08:25 PM

Re: How to fight EA Abysia?
 
yep leech is a killer against Burning Ones :( thanks executor for teaching me that lesson. You really want to be killing them with magic or ranged attacks wherever possible, up close they are lethal. Only thing that ever gave me great pause in melee using them was a well armoured cyclops

chrispedersen May 6th, 2009 08:32 PM

Re: How to fight EA Abysia?
 
Leech is absurdly effective, and should be any blood nations first thought against anything but chaff.

But Dragar, have you tried summoning imps... (continuously?) your imps should shield your burning ones from leech.

Dragar May 6th, 2009 08:40 PM

Re: How to fight EA Abysia?
 
EA Abysia doesn't have a lot of blood - very wimpy warlocks (S1B2) who are cap only and have old age. Competing against the Anointed of Rhuax I tend to get enough of them only for searching astral and hunting for blood stones.

That's why after the early game when the Burning Ones can dominate I find EA Abysia the weakest of the eras, they are very heavily fire reliant. If they had any kind of non-cap blood mage, even a B1, they'd be a lot better.

So yes, imps might help, but it is tough to have blood support on your armies.

chrispedersen May 6th, 2009 08:42 PM

Re: How to fight EA Abysia?
 
Well, if you find indy N1's you could go with one of my favorites - Swarm!

Il Magno May 7th, 2009 07:42 AM

Re: How to fight EA Abysia?
 
I try now to understand the various suggestions, here what I recognised:

comunions: quite clear; thx a lot for the renvigoration detail, it could be I was failing due to that detail missing. FYI I was very interested by your guide, but failed to feel confident when I tested it

bane lords thugs with eyes hields; ok clear; still I supposed to stay at the back firing everything (including WCs :)) to the Abyssian guys, is it not more safe and effective? Than what does it mean "100 fr"?

I'll have swarm so do you u suggest to add it to the skelly spam tactic?

Leech: I have not that mastery level in blood, and honestly I don't know how the spell works: (as said before I consider my self a rookie :o )

Dragar May 7th, 2009 08:35 AM

Re: How to fight EA Abysia?
 
100fr - 100% fire resistance. Never close a thug with abysia without it ;)

Only use thugs if you are sure they can survive, which basically means fire resistance and either stupendous defence, or protection, or both. You'll want an AP or AN weapon too as their prot is quite high


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