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HoneyBadger May 20th, 2009 05:20 PM

Re: Sentience
 
I agree with Endoperez: The Ancient Olm might be a better choice for Agartha?

The Olm could use a boost, anyway.

hEad May 20th, 2009 09:52 PM

Re: Sentience
 
Glad your enjoying it BandarLover - thanks for trying it out!

Endoperez and HoneyBadger, yep i agree. The way i was looking at it was that the Risen Oracle is a good SC but a lousy mage - expensive paths etc and in essence, if he was selected for use he would have other jobs to do rather than hanging around sentiencing thugs...

However, the Agless Olm seems to fit the bill better with cheaper paths therefore making access to a more diverse range of summons and potential thugs, i'll change it.

Now what about Machaka? Any suggestions on a chasis for them?

I eventually want to have a crack at designing some of my own pretenders for these nations once i get my chops up using paint shop pro, so any ideas about who an what would be appreciated.

Dragar May 20th, 2009 11:24 PM

Re: Sentience
 
Interesting mod, presumbably this may give the non-giant races a bit of a boost in thuggery

My only concern would be that by allowing this diversity, to all nations, you break down some of the individuality. Also lack of diversity or thugs may be important to balance a nation. Specifically aquatic nations and powerful human nations lick LA Ermor may get too much of a boost.

HoneyBadger May 21st, 2009 05:24 PM

Re: Sentience
 
Does Machaka get the Sphinx?

I feel the Sphinx would be a good choice for this ability, although I'm not sure I could explain my reasoning...

Gregstrom May 21st, 2009 05:51 PM

Re: Sentience
 
Machaka has the Colossal Fetish, which could work.

hEad May 24th, 2009 01:57 AM

Re: Sentience
 
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Originally Posted by Dragar (Post 692085)
Interesting mod, presumbably this may give the non-giant races a bit of a boost in thuggery

My only concern would be that by allowing this diversity, to all nations, you break down some of the individuality. Also lack of diversity or thugs may be important to balance a nation. Specifically aquatic nations and powerful human nations lick LA Ermor may get too much of a boost.

The way I am looking at this is that, unless you take a Freak Lord, Ermor wont have access to sentience, so it is not an ability for all nations – realistically, when you consider pretender build requirements for particular nation talents.

For the other nations that have a national sentiencer, they still have tendencies towards what are the typical summons given the paths of their mages and gem income type. Therefore their thugs will reflect that – earth nations like Agartha will tend towards troll and construct thugs - Man with nature will, have a nice collection of Vine ogre thugs + with access to a rainbow other summons depending on the magic on the pretender etc.

It is really an attempt to put thugs in the hands of those nations that “generally” perform less than satisfactory – or that the consensus on their power, rates them poorly.

Here is the next update:

FreakLord S3 access reduced to S1
cost bumped a bit 50-80

Ageless Olm replaces Oracle

Machaka now has the Fetish!

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So in summary:
Everyone - Freak Lord
Man - Partholonian Sorceress
Ulm - Master Alchemist
Agartha – Ageless Olm
Oceania - Neriad
Machaka - Colossal Fetish

HoneyBadger May 26th, 2009 06:00 PM

Re: Sentience
 
I don't really see the Colossal Fetish being the best choice, thematically speaking. Fetish is an SC, so already useful (not that it couldn't be make better, like most SC Pretenders).

I'd think the big giant head (tm) would make the better choice for Machaka?

PurpleRhino May 27th, 2009 02:41 PM

Re: Sentience
 
Wouldn't it make more sense to use the monolith and oracle as the preferred chassis? Since everybody can get them, including the underwater nations. Also it would limit where you could grant sentience to your followers (for awhile at least).
Just a thought.

rdonj May 27th, 2009 08:17 PM

Re: Sentience
 
I suppose the monolith would be a bit of a nod to 2001/space odyssey.


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