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Suhiir June 4th, 2009 04:14 PM

Re: A Few Questions
 
There are certainly moments when supressive fire has it uses.
But to use it as a "standard tactic" is merely a waste of ammo.

I'll diplomatically not mention the number of times in joint Army-Marine operations the Army has shown up on our doorstep with a empty cup asking to borrow some bullets.

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Originally Posted by Suhiir (Post 694447)
Given the standard arabic "stick weapon over your head-spray 'n pray" infantry tactics

Where did they get that idea? I see this all the time in Iraqi insurgent video's.

Cultural thing.
At the risk of being sounding like a bigot...

In general arabs are based on a nomadic culture. Hit-n-run raids for loot rather then attack-n-capture the land were the norm for "warfare" for centuries. Similar to the native americans during the 1800's.

Also, in general, in low population nomadic type cultures killing lots of people isn't generally done during warfare. It's more a show of force then a kill em all thing...much like most inner city gang warfare.

As we all know in an ambush type enguagement lots of shooting, noise, confusion is the best way to overwhelm your opponent. Even if you don't kill them you scare them off. While they're running you can grab the sheep, camels, women and make good your escape.

Also note how often they fire weapons into the air during gatherings.

To them a "show of force" is warfare. So blazing away at nothing while not risking actually getting hurt by poking your head up is just a cultural thing.

Sure...if they get real military training they function just as well, or badly, as anyone else. But most of what you see in the news isn't real soldiers...just guys with guns.

c_of_red June 6th, 2009 08:22 AM

Re: A Few Questions
 
I rarely 'Z' key. I figure that is why mortars were invented.
And I presumed technological equivalency. I am quite aware of the difference in effective ranges between a M9 Beretta and a MX-1 Peacekeeper.

hoplitis June 6th, 2009 08:45 AM

Re: A Few Questions
 
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Originally Posted by Suhiir (Post 694472)
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I'll diplomatically not mention the number of times in joint Army-Marine operations the Army has shown up on our doorstep with a empty cup asking to borrow some bullets.
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Well that's a cultural thingy too eh! :D

Suhiir June 6th, 2009 01:00 PM

Re: A Few Questions
 
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Originally Posted by hoplitis (Post 694729)
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Originally Posted by Suhiir (Post 694472)
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I'll diplomatically not mention the number of times in joint Army-Marine operations the Army has shown up on our doorstep with a empty cup asking to borrow some bullets.
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Well that's a cultural thingy too eh! :D

But of course !


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