Re: How is LA R'yleh overpowered?
 

When was the last time LA R'lyeh got a win anyway?

Re: How is LA R'yleh overpowered?
 

Quite a long time ago. :) I didnt see 'pro' players pick RLyeh lately, though. And that nightmarish game where I barely contained Rlyeh with my poor Jomon was pre-nerf.
Maybe Rlyeh nerf and buffs to LA Atlantis and Jomon (uw castles I mean) were enough to bring him in check.

Re: How is LA R'yleh overpowered?
 

Hmmm I think Ano in Highlander, that was a spring 09?

Re: How is LA R'yleh overpowered?
 

The more relevant question might be 'when did that game start', rather than end, since version could be effected by that.

Re: How is LA R'yleh overpowered?
 

well, I just think its pretty well balanced. I had excellent chances in a game till staling cost me a capitol. And I subbed into another game, that when I left Rlyeh was definitely one of the top seeds around turn 55 or so.

Re: How is LA R'yleh overpowered?
 

R'lyeh won the recent Aardwark game.


EDIT: But that was MA, so please ignore... Don't know where my brain is again...

Re: How is LA R'yleh overpowered?
 

Yes, I won with R'lyeh once but it was May '08. A full 4 month-long late-age game. Actually though there were some pretty good players, all was decided rather fast and yes, I could say then that R'lyeh is fantastic nation that should be dealt with early on or it becomes unstoppable in hands of a good player. That was particularly true for a water nation, of course.
But despite it was tremendously strong there were some problems, of course, and the main one was money. Your chaff does cost upkeep and your mages are very pricey. But with G3 population died really slow and everything was quite manageable. But now I consider R'lyeh the most hopeless nation in LA and I would never pick it unless it was given to me by some cruel random... Actually, if someone wins a competitive game with LA R'lyeh now I will be very surprised.

Re: How is LA R'yleh overpowered?
 

Now thats a challenge that might be fun..
but its really not that bad ano...
Turmoil and luck...

Works pretty well.

Re: How is LA R'yleh overpowered?
 

With turmoil/luck, you run into negative income/upkeep balance even faster, dont you.

Re: How is LA R'yleh overpowered?
 

Yepp!
And Order/Luck is just as good as Tumoril/Luck when you have a sizeable nation.