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Squirrelloid March 30th, 2010 10:13 AM

Re: reverse communion slave orders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Folket (Post 737955)
Maerlande example is all wrong.

Once the communion master casts communion master the slaves will not cast anything before the communion master do not cast for a turn.

No, the slaves will not cast anything in a turn iff a master casts before they get to act. If a slave acts before the first master, he may cast spells normally. Actually try it, it works.

Quote:

Better to have the two master first in the orders.


Yogi (M): Communion master, PotS, retreat
Yogi (M): Communion master, LotNS, retreat
Yogi S1: Communion Slave, hold, Soul Slay, SS, SS, Cast
Yogi: same
Yogi: same
Yogi: same
Yogi: Same
Yogi: same
Yogi: same
Yogi: same
I dislike retreating the masters, and thus putting them on the top, because it breaks up your army for future use. Further, the effect of masters on communion slave fatigue is mostly irrelevant. You also only need one master:

S1s all

Slave1: Communion Slave, Hold, LotNS (2s), SSx2 (fatigued out - who cares?)
Slave2-n: CSlave, Hold, SSx3
Master: CMaster, PotS, SSx3

Each master SS produces a whopping 20/n fatigue for each slave, or ~2.5 fatigue per slave per casting with 8 slaves. Ie, not relevant.

Calahan March 30th, 2010 11:56 AM

Re: reverse communion slave orders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maerlande (Post 737958)
You should test that before you say it's wrong.

This probably ranks #1 on my request list of things people should always do before posting on game specifics.

Since a lot of tests take less than five minutes to perform, but doing so could avoid an awful lot of just plain wrong information appearing on the forum. If you're not sure about something, test it :) And then if your tests go against what people are saying, then by all means say so and post your test findings.

[/Rant about pet hate]

Sombre March 30th, 2010 01:14 PM

Re: reverse communion slave orders
 
And if you don't want to test something or can't test it, don't present what you believe as fact.

Too many times I have seen people quoting the manual as evidence that they are right about something, or simply saying "X works in Y way and never Z" without qualifying it. When I believe something from playing the game but haven't tested it, I will generally say something along the lines of "I am 80% sure of X and people seem to concur, but in order to be sure this requires a test".

Calahan April 1st, 2010 06:56 AM

Re: reverse communion slave orders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 737994)
And if you don't want to test something or can't test it, don't present what you believe as fact.

LoL, and this is probably my #2 request :)


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