Re: Taking down SCs
 

Principe don't really have good def. For trample checks remember it uses the actual def, not the def+parry that is listed on the unit right click screen.

Re: Taking down SCs
 

What else uses the actual defense sombre, do you recall off the top of your head?

Re: Taking down SCs
 

Do the Lammashtas preferentially attack horror marked units? It doesn't explicitly say that in the description.

Re: Taking down SCs
 

I wonder would the Retiarius with the net/trident combo be able to ensnare the chariots?

If so there very easy to amass...although you lose them after one battle, still...worth trying to see if they are effective or not.

Re: Taking down SCs
 

Anything that checks defense. Parry is only displayed added on to def in that screen because it's helpful to see what you're likely to survive in melee (because anything that doesn't beat that value will hit shield or miss entirely).

So earthquake, falling frost, any of those kind of spells. They work great vs shielded guys because they actually have less defense due to the enc from the shield.

Re: Taking down SCs
 

They will, but the nets are one shots.. so you need to stagger their purchase and deployment.

Re: Taking down SCs
 

The nets work ok. Frantically trying to get to con 4 so I can start producing some penetration items and kit out a couple of SCs. What stinks is there is no cost effective counter for their chariots. At least their SCs cost an arm and a leg, plus a lost soul, plus...

Re: Taking down SCs
 

Sure there are.

Earthmeld + longbows.
Quagmire + long bows.
skelly spam + long bows.

And if those don't work.. elephants.

Re: Taking down SCs
 

No elephants available, I do not have access to Quagmire, don't think I have access to Earthmeld either. I could go the skellyspam route, but I don't have longbows either (aside from those I can craft).

I could also try some terror and frighten, but not sure how those are going to work due to their higher morale than elephants and mammoths.

Re: Taking down SCs
 

Spamming Terror and frighten are good if you can force his chariots to take morale checks.

Does he use the chariots in one large unit? or lots of smaller units? (like my last opponent did - thus making it easier to route them).