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Vishniac January 20th, 2013 05:27 PM

Re: Murdering Winter
 
3 questions left then:

1) Ok, so it's no trying to use Wolven Winter the same turn as Murdering Winter. But if you use Wolven Winter on turn 56 and Murdering Winter on the same province on turn 57, is there some cold scale remaining that enhances the Murdering? Or is it better to just forget it and use directly Murdering Winter on turn 56?

2)The explaining text makes me doubtful. 7 damage doesn't seem much: a militia has 8, a simple maenad has 10, human mages have 10, human soldiers have 10-12. Can you really make casualties by using Murdering Winter on a province without cold scales? Am I overlooking something? Or is this spell better used not to kill but mainly to soften a big army the same turn you launch a conventional attack against?

3) A very specific qustion: if I know that Enemy 1 is siegeing a fortress of Enemy 2 and I launch Murdering Winter over there, who will be struck, Enemy 1 or enemy 2?

chelubey January 21st, 2013 06:09 AM

Re: Murdering Winter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vishniac (Post 816483)
3) A very specific qustion: if I know that Enemy 1 is siegeing a fortress of Enemy 2 and I launch Murdering Winter over there, who will be struck, Enemy 1 or enemy 2?

Question is indeed quite specific, but I'll give not that specific (I hope still useful) answer on it:)
There is a thread on dom3mods where similar issues are elaborated: http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/...?showtopic=964

Fantomen January 21st, 2013 07:02 AM

Re: Murdering Winter
 
1. That would depend on the strength and temp scale of the dominion in the province, as well as other things that affect temperature shifts, like sites, season and a few special units. Generally speaking if you WW the province to cold 3 and there is no strong heat 3 dominion to shift it then it would still be cold the turn after.

2. 7 armor negating damage + DRN is a LOT more than it sounds. If the province is cold and the units not cold resistant you'll do a lot of damage. But since the spell is very expensive and only targets half the enemy army that is only really worth it against a big army with lots of human HP mages IMO, most of the time I would spend those water gems elsewhere.

3. Testing @ dom3mods indicates that the sieging army is always targeted (enemy 1), but there is anecdotical evidence to the contrary. Like every scientifically schooled person knows, anecdotical non-reproducable evidence is worthless. So I assume the tests show the the truth and those spells always targets enemy 1.

Vishniac January 21st, 2013 12:28 PM

Re: Murdering Winter
 
Thanks a lot!

With some luck, these informations will help me get my first MP victory. :p


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