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JonBrave December 7th, 2011 07:28 PM

Re: 25% autoroute question
 
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Originally Posted by Corinthian (Post 790309)
You should play Agartha more JonBrave. They get olms both as a pretender choice and as heroes.

...Yea, Agartha is not a very powerful nation in vanilla.

Oh! Are you saying they actually use a word of "olm"? I had truly never heard of it.

Knai December 8th, 2011 06:03 AM

Re: 25% autoroute question
 
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Originally Posted by JonBrave (Post 790344)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corinthian (Post 790309)
You should play Agartha more JonBrave. They get olms both as a pretender choice and as heroes.

...Yea, Agartha is not a very powerful nation in vanilla.

Oh! Are you saying they actually use a word of "olm"? I had truly never heard of it.

Yes. The Ancient Olm is an SC pretender chassis they get, the heroes are lighter thugs. Or rather, the Ancient Olm is a low grade imitation SC wannabe, and the heroes are sacks of HP.

Starbelly Geek December 8th, 2011 11:13 AM

Re: 25% autoroute question
 
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Originally Posted by Knai (Post 790369)
Yes. The Ancient Olm is an SC pretender chassis they get, the heroes are lighter thugs. Or rather, the Ancient Olm is a low grade imitation SC wannabe, and the heroes are sacks of HP.

The heroes are free mages! That are free and don't require a turn of fort time to hire! Also they don't cost anything to get! And Deepthought rocks on toast.

The Ageless Olm pretender's not too hard to make into a moderate rainbow. Never occurred to me to try to use it as an SC. Seems like there are much better options available to Agartha for that.

Knai December 8th, 2011 11:26 AM

Re: 25% autoroute question
 
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Originally Posted by Starbelly Geek (Post 790383)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Knai (Post 790369)
Yes. The Ancient Olm is an SC pretender chassis they get, the heroes are lighter thugs. Or rather, the Ancient Olm is a low grade imitation SC wannabe, and the heroes are sacks of HP.

The heroes are free mages! That are free and don't require a turn of fort time to hire! Also they don't cost anything to get! And Deepthought rocks on toast.

The Ageless Olm pretender's not too hard to make into a moderate rainbow. Never occurred to me to try to use it as an SC. Seems like there are much better options available to Agartha for that.

I am clearly remembering wrong. I'd forgotten that they had any magic power at all. Clearly I need to play more Agartha, or maybe just more Agartha that isn't the Golem Cult.

JonBrave December 8th, 2011 04:03 PM

Re: 25% autoroute question
 
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Originally Posted by Starbelly Geek (Post 790383)
The heroes are free mages! That are free and don't require a turn of fort time to hire! Also they don't cost anything to get!

While you happen to mention that (sorry if hijacking thread!): Do you (seem to) get 2 heroes (perhaps on average) per game (I guess I mean random)? What sort of event actually fires them? (Doubtless the answers are in a file, but an answer summarising would be appreciated.)

Corinthian December 8th, 2011 07:50 PM

Re: 25% autoroute question
 
The rate of hero acquirement is based on you luck scales. Or 3% chance of a hero per turn -+1% per luck point. Its not a random event, it is a separate check.

Some nations can get infinite heroes through so called Multi-heroe chassis. Other nations have a limited amount of heroes.

In vanilla some nations have few, or no(?) heroes at all (Patala?). Other nations only have terrible heroes that are little better than indy commanders. (MA Ulm). Lanka is special in that it can actually get units that it can summon as heroes, witch is rather underwhelming.

Makinus December 9th, 2011 05:52 AM

Re: 25% autoroute question
 
Continuing the hijack, who do you think is the best multihero available on the game (Vanilla and CBM)?

earcaraxe December 9th, 2011 06:01 AM

Re: 25% autoroute question
 
i like both the scobreds and the children of anthrax for ma aby because of diversity: access to earth boots and flaming skulls and spectral infantry.

Squirrelloid December 9th, 2011 06:46 AM

Re: 25% autoroute question
 
Marveni's Bloodhenge Druid multihero. Blood access and something like 9 non-priest paths.

JonBrave December 9th, 2011 05:23 PM

Re: 25% autoroute question
 
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Originally Posted by Corinthian (Post 790422)
The rate of hero acquirement is based on you luck scales. Or 3% chance of a hero per turn -+1% per luck point. Its not a random event, it is a separate check.

Ohhhh... :confused:

OK, well I've played quite a few SP random games with various races. I am under the distinct impression that I tended to get either 1 or 2, more pertinently, they were always relatively early in the game; definitely none later on, when I was doing well. Am I plain mad/wrong, how would that gell with what you say?


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