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Soyweiser June 15th, 2012 09:53 AM

Re: Defeating Ashen Ermor?
 
in my experience, solar brilliance doesn't do much. Even when boosted with penetration items (which led me to believe that battlefield spells that proc every turn do not get penetration boosts. But not sure. I never saw more than one or two undead die due to this spell each turn).

Executor June 15th, 2012 10:01 AM

Re: Defeating Ashen Ermor?
 
Really? It`s not MR negatable and it worked just fine for me. Killing up to hundred of units per battle turn.

EDIT: It indeed works just fine. Killed 2000 undead in about battle 10 turns for me.

Immaculate June 15th, 2012 10:39 AM

Re: Defeating Ashen Ermor?
 
Wow- it did not work nearly as well for me with vampires. Maybe thats because vamps regenerate...?

Executor June 15th, 2012 10:50 AM

Re: Defeating Ashen Ermor?
 
Well, crap undead have low HP and never heal while Vamps have 22hp I think and regen 2-3 per turn. Solar Brilliance on the other hand hits with only a few point of (AN?) damage so I doubt it would touch stronger undead like vamps, and barely hurt things lie dust warriors and alike.

Soyweiser June 15th, 2012 10:53 AM

Re: Defeating Ashen Ermor?
 
I used it against normal undead boosted with the +4 mr battlefield wide spell. So while in theory it should have worked great. In practice it didn't.

Corinthian June 17th, 2012 03:28 PM

Re: Defeating Ashen Ermor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Executor (Post 806530)
Really? It`s not MR negatable and it worked just fine for me. Killing up to hundred of units per battle turn.

EDIT: It indeed works just fine. Killed 2000 undead in about battle 10 turns for me.

Ehhm no? The undead killing part is resistible and it only have penetration 8. The reason why it will still kill longdead units is because they have poor MR and few HP and it will hit 50% of them every turn. At 5 AP damage I guesstimates it might kill some 12% of all longdeads each turn. Slightly better than storm of vengeance witch would kill some 9% imho.

Still completely negligible vs undeads with actual armor or MR. I used it with a bunch of LA C'tis tomb king on the battlefield. They all had MR 19 (from drain) and they were barely touched during the long battle. More of them went blind than took any damage.

Executor June 17th, 2012 05:43 PM

Re: Defeating Ashen Ermor?
 
Guess I was wrong. Nowhere in it`s description does it say it`s MR negatable (which frankly should get fixed) so no reason anyone should assume so.

Doesn`t matter in any case. We`re talking about AI dealing measures here, where it works just fine, not elite undead with buffs.


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