Re: Rock and a Hard Place - LA game - full - design pretenders
 

either is fine with me.

Re: Rock and a Hard Place - LA game - full - design pretenders
 

I agree. However, in the version I had in mind, the central island is disabled as starting location, furthermore, some of the worst starts (2 neighbour provs mainly) have been disabled. I think it's mainly question of size here.

I had a small game in mind when I started but as I've played several tight maps recently, and gotten into very early wars I didn't like, I'm leaning more and more towards a bigger map here. Even when the said wars went ok for me, I felt they hurt my end game. Maybe I'm just a hopeless turtle :)

But I want to emphasize that I'm certainly ok with Squirrels with 8 as well, if that's what folks want. I did propose it originally after all.

Edit: asked around about the Squirrels map with 8 starts, it was used in the Momentum game and seems some of the starts were very close each other. So maybe we shoud use another version, if we use that map

Re: Rock and a Hard Place - LA game - full - design pretenders
 

If you could get one of the vets to set the start positions on the one with the disabled center, i think that would be very interesting. I know in the past i've gone on ICQ and asked vets to do that and they've been very generous with their time. I feel it might be necessary to avoid start positions that are either low on resources or in otherwise bad sites.

Your call.

Re: Rock and a Hard Place - LA game - full - design pretenders
 

Nothing wrong with close starts, the ol' phonebooth knifefight can be entertaining, although it would favor nations like Mictlan and Atlantis.

As far as designing pretenders go, have pretenders been tweaked a lot for 1.93, or can we simply use the ones in 1.92 ettin fix?

Re: Rock and a Hard Place - LA game - full - design pretenders
 

Seems that balancing the Lands of Legends for 8 LA nations is quite hard - if you want to have roughly even spacing, No of neighbours over 3 and the access to the limited harbors. In addition, Mictlan and Atlantis will have a definitive advantage for the island provinces as they can reach it much more easily.

In order to allow people to plan accordingly I've decided on the Ethereal Squirrels map. Take a look athe thumbnail at:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...omentum&page=5

I would keep these starts but move 73 one tick east to 74. This way everyone should have a mimimum of 3 provinces between eachother. I don't think you can get 4 prov spread for everyone when it's this crowded.

Not at home atm but I'll set up the game tomorrow with the updated map. Try to have your pretender ready soon!

Re: Rock and a Hard Place - LA game - full - design pretenders
 

Great map.

Pretender designed ( CBM 1.92 ettin fix)

Ready to go.

Regards, Klaus

Re: Rock and a Hard Place - LA game - full - design pretenders
 

Installed CBM 1.93 meanwhile and designed a new pretender.
Ready to go.

Regards, Klaus

Re: Rock and a Hard Place - LA game - full - upload pretenders
 

The game is created on llamaserver, ready to accept pretenders!

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo....d_a_Hard_Place

OP updated with the fixed starts map

Re: Rock and a Hard Place - LA game - full - upload pretenders
 

We are almost ready, still need the Marignon pretender.

Re: Rock and a Hard Place - LA game - full - upload pretenders
 

PM:ed Ossa and asked how much time he still needs. If we don't hear from him I'm inclined to start the game with 7 players tomorrow.

Another thing: CBM194 is out and fixes some of the bugs, especially concerning EDM. Looking at the changelog, there's no changes to pretenders. Best to my knowledge this means we could use it without the hassle of resending the pretenders, anyone disagree?