Re: Greek OOB31 v.9
 

1/38 would be more correct......that type of error we don't have a quick and easy way to check for ( I do now and that was the only one in the ww2 OOB's plus one in the NK MBT OOB's now corrected in both.... )

The good news, FWIW, I found a number of much better photos for it but also some conflicting information from a Greek website about Greek Military vehicles.....I suspect a bad translation

https://grvehicles.wordpress.com/201...elandewagen-5/

I have seen other websites that claim the German army had no interest in it....for now 1/38 start date will do

Re: Greek OOB31 v.9
 

Thank you for your attention to last year's notes. :clap:
I didn't mean to go back to Greece, but on the occasion, just a few updated notes (this time without artillery and stuff):

36 Anti Tank Rifle - there's no sign of such weapon. Possibly it's meant to be Polish 7.92mm wz.35 Ur, which was considered to be bought before the war, but obviously wasn't.

345 Peerless A/T - in its final version it had an armoured roof
https://grvehicles.wordpress.com/201...eerless-lorry/
http://world-war-2.wikia.com/wiki/Vi...ss_Armored_Car
Armament was 1 or 2 Hotchkiss LMGs sticking out from a side (and possibly rifles), not Vickers TMG. It could also carry 10-14 men. And size should be bigger (5?) - it was huge, especially with a houselike roof.


350 CV 33 - earliest CV.33 were armed with a single 6.5mm MG (not twin) (weapon 218 from Italian OOB)

(However, from 1935 they started to be retrofitted in Italy with 8 mm MGs, and I doubt if the ones with 6.5mm were used in combat, and moreover captured by Greece...)

352 CV.38 - proper photo is 20642. This vehicle has been correctly changed to 1942 year (tankettes with a new suspension were modified in 1942-43) - but there rather aren't known any armoured vehicles captured after 1941, and its formation ends in 1941... It should be removed IMO.

365 Vickers M1936 - I believe it should be class 12 Light tank, so that they are used in two-tank sections, not alone (reportedly 10 were delivered, making them most numerous Greek tanks)

365,366 Vickers Mk E(a)/(b) - both should be Infantry Tank class, so that they are used in single-tank formations (only one each was bought).

Among scarce tanks, that the Greeks did use, were two Carden Loyd VI tankettes, bought in 1930-31 (might be 1/30 without great error). Photos on https://grvehicles.wordpress.com/201...n-lloyd-mk-vi/ show, that they had an interesting armoured roof (this page however claims the date was 1935).

373-375 Humber Mk.I-III - this page https://grvehicles.wordpress.com/201...n-lloyd-mk-vi/ mentions only Mk.IV, and used from 1946.

It seems, that Marmon-Herrington III was used instead in North Africa https://grvehicles.wordpress.com/201...k-iii/#more-92

391 Ford Otter II - it should be GM Otter (or just Otter), but according to https://grvehicles.wordpress.com/201...otter/#more-96 it was used after 1945.[/quote]

476 20mm SPAA - possibly a better photo for wheeled Resistance SPAA would be eg. 30160 (used for 475 unit) instead of halftrack SdKfz-6/2..

Re: Greek OOB31 v.9
 

I've found out - the photo 16206 is apparently Hotchkiss LMG on a tripod https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-T7SvmuEkh...1600/greek.JPG . Nice photo of Greek MG, but we haven't such unit, and Fiat was quite different, without a stock and pistol grip. Maybe a generic photo 2391 would be better?

102, 103 P.Z.L. P-24F,G - maybe it's worth to create earlier entries (1/38 to some 12/39), so that a beautiful icon 2968 won't be wasted?.. According to a drawing http://alternathistory.com/files/res...08-640x905.JPG, until 1940 they were silver.

Surprisingly, there exist no good photos of undamaged camouflaged P-24 (current one is silver) - I'm attaching the best one found, that could go to camouflaged entries.

107 Blenheim Mk.IV - standard fixed armament was only 1 MG, now it has 3 (and it isn't even clear, if it had any https://www.haf.gr/en/history/histor...lenheim-mk-iv/) Possibly there's no reason, why it ends at 12/40 instead of 3 or 4/41 (until a fall of Greece).

122 BR Blenheim IV - the unit has been changed from Blenheim I to IV, but a photo remained I - should be 30139.

110 BR Gladiator - a photo is Belgian, it should be British 12552 or 3651 instead.

Gladiators were used also by the Greek AF since 12/40 (not counting two bought around 1937) https://www.haf.gr/en/history/histor...ladiator-mk-i/

This time that's all.

Re: Greek OOB31 v.9
 

Dug up this thread again for something that was bugging me but I was always forgot to mention it: The Greek flag for much of the time period of the game is not correct. For a good portion of 20th century, the flag was actually the flag featuring a single white cross in a blue background, with the royal crown in the middle (the country was called Kingdom of Greece, after all). For a brief period, the crown was removed with the establishment of the 2nd Hellenic Republic, but it was restored in 1935 (just in time for WinSpWWW2 :P ). The modern flag, which was an edited version of the Naval Flag, was established in 1970 with a darker blue, and the modern version in 1978. So for the entirety of WinSPWW2, as well as 1946-1970 of MBT, the flag was the Royal One, and a different version of the modern flag from 1970 to 1978.

link to the Greek flags from wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_o...ical_evolution

Re: Greek OOB31 v.9
 

I used flags of the world ( FOTW ) as a reference for all the national flags

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/gr.html
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/gr_evna2.html

They also say......
and

All of which is the reason we use the same one from 1930-2025