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IronDuke99 February 21st, 2017 06:47 AM

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There are a lot of issues with 'The Hurt Locker' in terms of accuracy...

Not withstanding questions of accuracy, it remains a good story, not much different, although I suspect in some matters of truthfulness or falsehood, a hudge difference than the "شيطان رامري" (the Devil of Ramadi) non-story in the otherwise engaging "American Sniper" film.


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I rather liked 'American Sniper' as a film. War is, after all, the ultimate 'us and them' is it not?

IronDuke99 February 21st, 2017 06:56 AM

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I really liked "We Were Soldiers" too.

"Hacksaw Ridge" isn't post WW II but is WELL worth seeing.

I hate and really detest 'Braveheart' and 'The Patriot' two of the most hugely historically inaccurate films ever made anywhere. I liked 'We Were Soldiers' and 'Apocalypto'. I thought the truly vile 'Passion of the Christ' told a great truth about this film Director. I will have to Watch 'Hacksaw Ridge'

Kessu February 21st, 2017 07:54 AM

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A few suggestions.

1) Ničija zemlja - No Man's land (2001), set in the Bosnian war:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zQZrdXA4g

Ragtag reservists doing a good job at not killing the other people, and somehow managing to stay alive in the process.

The weapons are accurately potrayed and so are the uniforms and the tactics, or the lack there of.

Bosniaks vs. Bosnian Serbs.

2) לבנון‎‎ - Lebanon (2009)

Israeli movie set during the Peace for Galilee operation. S. Maoz, the director is a (IDF) tanker (reservist) combat vet and the movie is based on his experiences during the war.

The Sho't looks a lot bigger from the inside :smirk:

I think you can find the film on YouTube?

Israel (& Phalangists) vs. PLO/Syrians/Hezbollah and friends.

shahadi February 21st, 2017 02:16 PM

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'Full Metal Jacket' (1987) Excellent film. Real USMC Gunnery Sgt. Some fairly good skirmishing/fire and movement. Only thing that annoyed me was they made some big deal about killing the female enemy soldier at the end. Why? Especially after she shot their mate to bits a round in the head was rather kind.

I think it was not so much that the female sniper was killed (or even that she was female), actually I think she was in extreme pain from her wounds, did she asked to be killed? Anyway, the big deal was not the kill, but the praise he got for shooting her from his team, and in a deeper sense how death, up close and personal, changes a man forever. This scene and a number of others, especially the first part of the film in boot camp, have lead many to say the film is an anti-war statement.

Yeah, FMJ is a classic.

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IronDuke99 February 21st, 2017 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IronDuke99 (Post 837353)
'Full Metal Jacket' (1987) Excellent film. Real USMC Gunnery Sgt. Some fairly good skirmishing/fire and movement. Only thing that annoyed me was they made some big deal about killing the female enemy soldier at the end. Why? Especially after she shot their mate to bits a round in the head was rather kind.

I think it was not so much that the female sniper was killed (or even that she was female), actually I think she was in extreme pain from her wounds, did she asked to be killed? Anyway, the big deal was not the kill, but the praise he got for shooting her from his team, and in a deeper sense how death, up close and personal, changes a man forever. This scene and a number of others, especially the first part of the film in boot camp, have lead many to say the film is an anti-war statement.

Yeah, FMJ is a classic.

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I don't know anyone who is pro war, as a general rule, and I have only met a handful of people who actually liked it most of the time. Making an anti war statement makes about as much difference as making a anti flu statement, but it is a good film.

'Johnny Got His Gun' (1971) is a film that is entirely anti war, and the only actually scary horror film I've ever seen. Don't think it, or any other film, has any actual effect on the real politic that, along with religious fanaticism, drives real human wars.

shahadi February 22nd, 2017 03:25 AM

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Lone Survivor 2013

Is a must see on anyone's list of Afghan war movies. Riveting battle scenes.


In the photo is Muhammad Gulab, the Afghan villager, the so-called "savior" of Marcus Luttrell, who guarded him according to Pashtunwali, the honor code requiring Gulab to protect Luttrell, until Luttrell was eventually rescued.


Check out this trailer, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xxa5eS31Hk, for the real deal portrayal of the running battle according to Luttrell's account in his memoirs.

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IronDuke99 February 22nd, 2017 05:58 AM

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'The Beast' (1988) about a Soviet Tank and crew in Afghanistan...

IronDuke99 February 22nd, 2017 06:00 AM

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A Documentary 'How to make a Royal Marines Officer' (1989)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4POpHJmwSYI

This is part 1 and the rest is on there too...

scorpio_rocks February 22nd, 2017 07:57 AM

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2) לבנון‎‎ - Lebanon (2009)

Israeli movie set during the Peace for Galilee operation. S. Maoz, the director is a (IDF) tanker (reservist) combat vet and the movie is based on his experiences during the war.

The Sho't looks a lot bigger from the inside :smirk:

I think you can find the film on YouTube?

Israel (& Phalangists) vs. PLO/Syrians/Hezbollah and friends.

:up: Great claustrophobic film - think Das Boot in a tank! The only external shots throughout most of the film are through the vision blocks and gun sights of the tank. (and yes it is the "Tardis-version" of a Sho't but it doesn't detract).

Wdll February 22nd, 2017 12:09 PM

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'The Beast' (1988) about a Soviet Tank and crew in Afghanistan...

It's not a movie, it's an experience. :)
I watched it when it was released and fell in love with it as a boy.


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