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Re: US Heavy Tanks Icon set 1.0

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Originally Posted by oragus (Post 838993)

Here is my version of the T28 Super Heavy Tank. I only did it in green to start.

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/...psrjx1l6ih.png

Use these or your own

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...1&d=1500037048

Re: US Heavy Tanks Icon set 1.0

World of Tanks has a lot of interesting vehicles for sure, but they are a terrible place for reference materials. Most of those, like the T28 Prototype are pure fiction that Wargaming.net created.

Those are nice Don, I was going to make the desert and winter ones also, but you beat me to it.

Re: US Heavy Tanks Icon set 1.0

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Originally Posted by MarkSheppard (Post 838975)

From Kitty Killers:

T29 Specs:

6 man crew
Combat Weight: 70.75 tons

HULL
Upper Front: 174mm effective
Lower Front: 132mm effective
Front Sides: 76mm effective
Rear Sides: 51mm effective
Upper Rear: 52mm effective
Lower Rear: 40mm effective
Top: 38mm effective
Front Floor: 25mm effective
Rear Floor: 13mm effective

TURRET
Gun Shield: 203-279mm effective
Front: 206mm effective
Sides: 127mm effective
Rear: 102mm effective
Top: 38mm effective

105mm Gun T5E2
Loading: Manual (6 rds/min with 2 loaders)
Stablizer: None

Vision:
T143E1 Telescope
M10E5 Periscope

1 x .50 Caliber M2 HB Flexible AA on commanders hatch
2 x .50 Caliber M2 HB Coaxial
1 x .30 Caliber M1919A4 Bow Mount

Ammo Load:
63 Rounds 105mm
2420 rounds .50 Caliber
2500 rounds .30 caliber

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T29E3 Specs:

6 man crew
Combat Weight: 72 tons
Speed: 22 MPH

HULL
Upper Front: 174mm effective
Lower Front: 132mm effective
Front Sides: 76mm effective
Rear Sides: 51mm effective
Upper Rear: 52mm effective
Lower Rear: 40mm effective
Top: 38mm effective
Front Floor: 25mm effective
Rear Floor: 13mm effective

TURRET
Gun Shield: 203-279mm effective
Front: 206mm effective
Sides: 127mm effective
Rear: 102mm effective
Top: 38mm effective

105mm Gun T5E1
Loading: Manual (6 rds/min with 2 loaders)
Stablizer: None

Vision:
T31E1 Range Finder
T93E2 Telescope
M10E5 Periscope

1 x .50 Caliber M2 HB Flexible AA on commanders hatch
2 x .50 Caliber M2 HB Coaxial
1 x .30 Caliber M1919A4 Bow Mount

Ammo Load:
63 Rounds 105mm
2420 rounds .50 Caliber
2500 rounds .30 caliber

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T30 Specs
6 man crew
Combat Weight: 71.3 tons
Speed: 22 MPH

HULL
Upper Front: 174mm effective
Lower Front: 132mm effective
Front Sides: 76mm effective
Rear Sides: 51mm effective
Upper Rear: 52mm effective
Lower Rear: 40mm effective
Top: 38mm effective
Front Floor: 25mm effective
Rear Floor: 13mm effective

TURRET
Gun Shield: 203-279mm effective
Front: 206mm effective
Sides: 127mm effective
Rear: 102mm effective
Top: 38mm effective

155mm Gun T7
Loading: Manual with hoist and spring rammer (2 rds/min with 2 loaders)
Stablizer: None

Vision:
T143E1 Telescope
M10E9 Periscope

1 x .50 Caliber M2 HB Flexible AA on commanders hatch
1 x .50 Caliber M2 HB Coaxial
1 x .30 Caliber M1919A4 Bow Mount

Ammo Load:
34 Rounds 155mm
2200 rounds .50 Caliber
2500 rounds .30 caliber

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Statistics of 155mm T7 Gun:
40 calibers
2 rounds/minute with two loaders

It was never provided with an AP shot as far as I can tell; but I would imagine a 95 pound HE shell would mess up any tank's day; and given the calibre of the gun, a HEAT round from it would be truly terrifying.

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T34 Specs
6 man crew
Combat Weight: 71.8 tons
Speed: 22 MPH

HULL
Upper Front: 174mm effective
Lower Front: 132mm effective
Front Sides: 76mm effective
Rear Sides: 51mm effective
Upper Rear: 52mm effective
Lower Rear: 40mm effective
Top: 38mm effective
Front Floor: 25mm effective
Rear Floor: 13mm effective

TURRET
Gun Shield: 203 to 279mm effective
Front: 184mm effective
Sides: 127mm effective
Rear: 203mm effective
Top: 38mm effective

120mm Gun T53
Loading: Manual (5 RPM with 2 loaders)
Stablizer: None

1 x .50 Caliber M2 HB Flexible AA on commanders hatch
1 x .50 Caliber M2 HB Coaxial
1 x .30 Caliber M1919A4 Bow Mount

Vision:
T143E2 Telescope
M10E10 Periscope

Ammo Load:
34 Rounds 120mm
2090 rounds .50 Caliber
2500 rounds .30 caliber

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120mm Gun T53 Specs:
60 Calibers
5 RPM, two loaders

AP Shot:
198mm @ 30 degrees @ 914m
173mm @ 30 deg @ 1829m

HVAP Shot:
381mm @ 30 deg @ 914m
318mm @ 30 deg @ 1829 m

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T32 Specs
5 man crew
Combat Weight: 60 tons
Speed: 22 MPH

HULL
Upper Front: 216mm effective
Lower Front: 184mm effective
Sides: 76mm effective
Rear: 52mm effective
Top: 38mm effective
Front Floor: 25mm effective
Rear Floor: 13mm effective

TURRET
Gun Shield: 298mm effective
Front: 309mm effective
Sides: 199 to 154mm effective
Rear: 152mm effective
Top: 25mm effective

90mm Gun T15E2
Loading: Manual (4 RPM)
Stablizer: None

1 x .50 Caliber M2 HB Flexible AA on commanders hatch
1 x .30 Caliber M1919A4 Coaxial
1 x .30 Caliber M1919A4 Bow Mount

Ammo Load:
54 Rounds 90mm
550 rounds .50 Caliber
4000 rounds .30 caliber

Vision:
M77E1 or M71E4 Telescope
M10E4 Periscope

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90mm T15E1/2 Gun Data:
70 Calibers

Penetration:

T43 AP Shot (APBC-T; 3,200 ft/sec)
132mm @ 30 degree angle @ 500 yds
127mm @ 30 degree angle @ 1000 yds
124mm @ 30 degree angle @ 1500 yds
122mm @ 30 degree angle @ 2000 yds

T44 HVAP Shot (APCR-T; 3,750 ft/sec)
244mm @ 30 degree angle @ 500 yds
221mm @ 30 degree angle @ 1000 yds
196mm @ 30 degree angle @ 1500 yds
173mm @ 30 degree angle @ 2000 yds

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Superheavy Tank T28 (105mm GMC T95)
4 man crew
Speed: 4
Combat Weight: 95 tons

HULL
Gun Shield: 292mm effective
Upper Front: 305mm effective
Lower Front: 266mm effective
Upper Sides: 118mm effective
Lower Sides: 152mm effective
Rear: 52mm effective
Top: 38mm effective
Floor: 25mm effective

105mm Gun T5E1
1 x .50 Caliber in AA Mount

Loading: Manual (4 RPM)
Stablizer: None

Ammo Load:
62 Rounds 105mm
660 rounds .50 Caliber

Any good ranges for the 105mm? What about for the long 90s. At the moment I'm keeping them at 80 hexes like the other 90mm guns of the era.

Re: US Heavy Tanks Icon set 1.0

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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 838996)

This whole thread is getting confused and now I am dealing with various "what-if" interpretations and I already have more than enough game work scheduled to keep Andy and I busy without this.

S'okay.

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and it seems in typical US "M1" fashion there **may** ( but I have been unable to confirm....) be TWO T28's........this latest Icon and This...

.http://www.vbaddict.net/wot/tanks/2_..._prototype.png

which appears to only exist in WOT...

That image is from

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:A68_T28_Prototype

and it says:

It is generally agreed the T28 Prototype as it exists in the game is considered to be a fabrication based on liberties taken with various T28/T95 program proposals.

Basically, it appears the WOT people took this image (see attached) from Hunnicutt's Firepower of a very early design concept for a anti-fortification tank with a turret; and combined it with the design ethos of US tank destroyers to create a fictional fantasy unit.

Re: US Heavy Tanks Icon set 1.0

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Originally Posted by MarkSheppard (Post 838985)

Yes, please!

Zinryus did an icon of it long ago, I hacked together a winter and desert version of his icon (see attached), but it would be super nice to see your rendition. :D

Is it all it's cracked up to be Mark? Lol

Re: US Heavy Tanks Icon set 1.0

I have added the T28 Super Heavy Tank to the US Heavy Tank Icon set. The updated file is at the beginning of this thread version 1.1. Enjoy

Re: US Heavy Tanks Icon set 1.0

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Originally Posted by oragus (Post 839000)

Those are nice Don, I was going to make the desert and winter ones also, but you beat me to it.

I was just " doodling" while waiting for something else to load. It's a uniquely shaped vehicle.

Just curious...is this the line drawing you worked from ??

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...1&d=1500133419

Re: US Heavy Tanks Icon set 1.0

No worries at all. Yes it is. I thought it was challenging to get its shape to look right. But an enjoyable icon to create.

No, I used a drawing and photos out of the book Firepower. But that looks really good too. Only differences are the locations of the moveable cranes. This particular drawing has them both mounted in their front positions. Mine had them mounted on their right side positions. They were designed to be repositioned around the vehicle as needed, when working on the outer set of tracks. They are removable and can be towed behind the vehicle for transportation or bridge crossings, etc.

Re: US Heavy Tanks Icon set 1.0

The only reason I asked is drawings can differ slightly but BECAUSE it's a unique shape and I was admiring it something seemed a bit off.....it seemed too short.....when I checked the LxW ratio of the drawing it's close to 1.700......the Icon is 1.600 when the ratio of the top upper left fender to the lower right bottom fender is checked---- the back roof needs to be stretched by 3 pixels

This is 2x size for clarity..flick back and forth between the drawing and these examples. Your original is the top one

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...1&d=1500135007

Re: US Heavy Tanks Icon set 1.0

I got my dimensions from Firepower. It gives great information. What you are referring to is exactly what was so challenging about this icon.. Trying to get it to look right within it's own dimensions was a pain. The last thing I could have tried to stretch the superstructure 1 more pixel was the front fender track connectors. I could have not gave it a pixel forward and stretched the entire vehicle that one pixel.

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/...psgkrxvmij.jpg