Re: Is password guessing cheating?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Indeed... guessing a password is cheating no matter what anyone says. What business do they got to GUESS others passwords anyways? Other then idea of CHEATING by looking at your (your meaning whoever has their passwords guessed) empire, where it's located, what plans you have stored up and so forth. So guessing someones password IS cheating.

[ June 29, 2002, 20:25: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

Re: Is password guessing cheating?
 

If I may just offer some advice. Those playing on PBW should not use the same passwords for their empires if they are playing different games.

If you take over an empire of someone who dropped out, thereby learning that persons password. It's possible that you could encounter that same person again in another game. I don't think I need to go into further details.

Re: Is password guessing cheating?
 

By "guessing" I mean actively selecting another player's empire and typing in a password... and I think that's what we are all talking about. To sit back in your easy chair and "guess" passwords but do nothing with them is perfectly okay, and about as productive as selecting lottery numbers in your head.

Terran C, I think you mean the second type, but if you DO mean "active guessing", I'll be glad to add you to my blacklist.

Re: Is password guessing cheating?
 

Whoa.

I didn't mean active guessing, as in keep typing random words into other player's empire and trying to crack it.

I meant as in just guessing. In your head. Nothing wrong with guessing in your head, but if you take that one step further, then it is cheating.

Also, DavidG, I didn't try to actually compare what hacking would be like to real world, but only compared examples of what the cheaters would do if they did hack it.

Sorry if some of this sounds back-flaming, as I'm only speaking what I think of this whole unpleasant matter.

Edit: Just so that wasn't clear...

Hitler = Empire Emperor
Luftwafer = Empire Fleet
Rommel = Empire Minister

[ June 29, 2002, 22:14: Message edited by: TerranC ]

Re: Is password guessing cheating?
 

I believe that anyone who would consciously choose an empire other then their own for the purpose of anything, not just limited to password guessing, is low, and attempting to then guess the password is most definitely cheating.

Re: Is password guessing cheating?
 

No flames felt here, Terran C. I thought armchair guessing was what you meant and I'm glad you clarified it. Thanks. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Re: Is password guessing cheating?
 

Yes, yes it is. Firmly, YES. Hell yes. It is cheating. Fun, but cheating non the less.

Re: Is password guessing cheating?
 

Of course it's cheating! I certainly wouldn't want to waste my time in any game with some chump that felt they had to cheat to compete...

Re: Is password guessing cheating?
 

It's still cheating to guess a password, even for the hell of it.

Things that expose cheaters that guess passwords

- Suddenly all thier ships move to another area with no reason
- If they are egotistical, they drop hints to thier own superiority (thus proving hwo dumb they are).
- They know stuff that can be gathered via cloaked ships -- but they don't have cloaking researched.....
- Suddenly they know where all your best shipyards are and destroy them.

Those are just some of the cheaters' ways.

Re: Is password guessing cheating?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Here One I experienced from a later proven cheater. Their fleets attack all your planets except the one with the massive defenses which they mysteriously avoid.