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Will November 1st, 2002 09:00 PM

Re: POLL->things we\'d really like in Next Patch (Platinum II)
 
You can see everything in the quadrant. Think "god mode"... although I don't think you can see things like opponent ship designs, facilities on planets, etc. It's just like having a bare-bones satellite in each system, pretty much.

Ragnarok November 1st, 2002 09:28 PM

Re: POLL->things we\'d really like in Next Patch (Platinum II)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Will:
You can see everything in the quadrant. Think "god mode"... although I don't think you can see things like opponent ship designs, facilities on planets, etc. It's just like having a bare-bones satellite in each system, pretty much.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh ok, thanks Will.

DavidG November 2nd, 2002 01:58 AM

Re: POLL->things we\'d really like in Next Patch (Platinum II)
 
Re: File size and viewing systems you've moved through

Of course file size is important for any files that need to be e-mailed or transfered, but could this data not be stored on the players own drive? Also I doubt even if it was stored in the .gam file that it would increase the file size by 21 times. The current 'snapshot' of the galaxy must contain a lot of info that you would not need to view a system (ie details on all facilities on every plant, build queues on those planets etc).

However the point is that being able to view what was in a system the Last time you could see it would be a very nice feature IMHO. Wether or not it is feasable or wether or not it would negativly affect the saved files sizes is a question only MM can answer.

rextorres November 2nd, 2002 03:54 AM

Re: POLL->things we\'d really like in Next Patch (Platinum II)
 
I do a lot of micromanagment and one thing I'd like is to see - that no one mentions - is the ability to give orders without having to jump to the planet or ship. For instance launch satellite or retrofit at the ship list.

Gandalph November 2nd, 2002 04:34 AM

Re: POLL->things we\'d really like in Next Patch (Platinum II)
 
I tried, I really, reeally tried, but I couldn't do it. I cannot ask for only 3 of those almost all excellant choices. If I did restrict my vote to 3 choices, I would be lying about what I really want.

Fyron November 2nd, 2002 05:22 AM

Re: POLL->things we\'d really like in Next Patch (Platinum II)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Will:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Will, SP savegame files aren't that large, and they store all that combat data. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">IIRC, the combat data is stored in *.cmb files, but it has been a while since I've played, so I might be hallucinating http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And? Whether the info is in 1 file or 2 doesn't really make a difference (except for a few bytes for creating the second file).

Grandpa Kim November 2nd, 2002 07:16 AM

Re: POLL->things we\'d really like in Next Patch (Platinum II)
 
None of the above. Fix all current bugs, then we'll talk.

Kim

Will November 2nd, 2002 08:59 AM

Re: POLL->things we\'d really like in Next Patch (Platinum II)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
Of course file size is important for any files that need to be e-mailed or transfered, but could this data not be stored on the players own drive? Also I doubt even if it was stored in the .gam file that it would increase the file size by 21 times. The current 'snapshot' of the galaxy must contain a lot of info that you would not need to view a system (ie details on all facilities on every plant, build queues on those planets etc).
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Increasing the file size 21 times would be the maximum possible, it's much more likely that it would be lower, probably around 2-4 times file size (just a wild guess). However, in my original post, I said that if it's implemented it should be off by default... hence implying that there be a flag in the game options screen. I didn't say that it shouldn't be done because of file size, just that the ability to turn it on/off be included.

As for hard disk space, from beta testing to sometime around v.1.30, I was playing SEIV on a computer with a whopping 1GB hard drive (approximately 100MB was free, and it complained when free space fell below 75MB). Sure, in the current computer market, 40GB is small and 1GB usually refers to RAM, but not everyone buys a new computer every six months.

Imperator Fyron: I also seem to recall that after turns with rather large, multiple battles, the *.cmb files were also huge. But, as I said, it's been a while since I've played... because it's been a while since I could have played. I don't have access to any of my savegames at home, or I could probably dig up a big file. And of course, this one should also be a flag. I never said "remembering" the system and combat details should not be done, I just said they should be set to off (flags).

Fyron November 2nd, 2002 09:18 AM

Re: POLL->things we\'d really like in Next Patch (Platinum II)
 
In one game turn where there was a hugely massive ship battle or 10, the cmb file was 616KB. Not very much, considering it gets overwritten every turn, and is rarely that large. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ November 02, 2002, 07:22: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

DavidG November 2nd, 2002 06:55 PM

Re: POLL->things we\'d really like in Next Patch (Platinum II)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Will:
Some comments....

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Facility that adds facility space to a planet

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You DO realize how unbalancing/unrealistic this is, correct? Maybe if there is a one per planet restriction...
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actaully never thought about it before since this was someone elses idea. However I would think this could work if it was like Atmospheric Converter. After say a year you get 25% more facilities.


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