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Arkcon December 17th, 2002 01:29 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Tried to twist my sister's arm and get her to play SE4. I gave her the basics of ship design, and she built a colony ship with Aux Control.

And I said "Wha.. Why,... You're wastin..."

and she said, "You're in this game, I need every possible backup when you attack"

and I said "Oh, I won.. Oh, do what you want..."

She might have thought of tons of things that I wouldn't, but oh well, she just thought the game was too violent.

Probably shouldn't have shown her the planet killer in action. Heh.

Tampa Gamer's sound mod gave the organic seekers a real evil screech too. That freaked her out good once. "See, my ships don't fire missiles, they give birth to them -- and they're born angry."

Mephisto December 17th, 2002 01:30 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
I have played one PBEM game with a lady for about a year now and one PBW game with another lady for several month. You see, there are ladies out there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Arkcon December 17th, 2002 01:45 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shoujo:
Things've changed (I hope), but if guys'd tried to put me in things like bikini armor, I wouldn't care for role-playing either... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif ...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ROTFLMAO http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Well, that's even funnier when you go to this web site: see: #chainmail bikini

[EDIT] A better link, but you'll have to cut and paste because you can't enter URL's from the edit window.
[EDIT2] Sure you can.

[ December 17, 2002, 03:27: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

PvK December 17th, 2002 02:09 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
I've heard of three female SE4 players. I've known many female RPG players, too, most of them quite good players who enjoyed the games without gender-related issues, although a I have seen several er, unappealing male RPG players, who were not in games the female players played in.

As for SE4, my wife has thought SE4 looked interesting, but seemed way too complex for her to want to get into. I've heard that comment from several male players, too.

Also though, one thing that turns me off about SE4 that I expect would tend to turn off most female players, is the general assumption of antagonism, megalomania, and above all, the default to violence and genocide. Even when you try hard not to, it's all too easy to accidentally murder billions of peaceful unarmed civillians, who may even be of your own race if an enemy captured one of your planets. IMO, that really sucks, unless you assume everyone is a genocidal maniac. Then there's the "all ships fight to the death whenever they meet anyone without a treaty" thing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

PvK

Stone Mill December 17th, 2002 03:31 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
PvK: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely!!! We have both touched on this topic several times, it's one of my biggest peeves as well. Hope they change it in SEV. Your troops should not obliterate billions until a Declaration of WAR is given!!! As for engagements, only Warlike races should fire first by default.

But... alas... to get back on topic, I just about wet myself laughing from the Last few Posts!!! ROFL!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

and Mephisto posted:
Quote:

I have played one PBEM game with a lady for about a year now and one PBW game with another lady for several month. You see, there are ladies out there.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I noticed you hail from Germany. Gryphin mentioned playing with a German lady as well...
Hmmmmmm... Is this a German woman gaming thing? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Kamog December 17th, 2002 04:24 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by capnq:
And the references to "girls" and "chicks" in this thread are really helping to dispel that opinion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

Some women will take offense at being called "ladies", for that matter.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I didn't know that... I thought "lady" was polite. How do they wish to be called?

Desdinova December 17th, 2002 04:29 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kamog:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by capnq:
And the references to "girls" and "chicks" in this thread are really helping to dispel that opinion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

Some women will take offense at being called "ladies", for that matter.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I didn't know that... I thought "lady" was polite. How do they wish to be called?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Your Majesty, Your Magnificence, Mistress, M'lady, Queen. just for starters. of course you have to say this with a straight face, otherwise it just makes them angrier.

[ December 17, 2002, 02:31: Message edited by: desdinova ]

Arkcon December 17th, 2002 04:40 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kamog:
I didn't know that... I thought "lady" was polite. How do they wish to be called?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Women is a good starting point. If they're real picky, they want to be called womyn, pronounced the same in American English, just doesn't contain the word men inside.

A lady is something delicate who you open a door for, you know car doors, theatre doors, etc. Just not the doors to the work place, political doors, door to your social club, etc.

'Course when a group(gaggle?, herd? flock?) of womyn arrive, the little evil person inside me has to be bound, chained, gagged and sat upon to prevent him from makeing me say, "Aww, who let the skirts in here?"

[ December 17, 2002, 02:43: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

Thermodyne December 17th, 2002 05:12 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Arkcon:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Kamog:
I didn't know that... I thought "lady" was polite. How do they wish to be called?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Women is a good starting point. If they're real picky, they want to be called womyn, pronounced the same in American English, just doesn't contain the word men inside.

A lady is something delicate who you open a door for, you know car doors, theatre doors, etc. Just not the doors to the work place, political doors, door to your social club, etc.

'Course when a group(gaggle?, herd? flock?) of womyn arrive, the little evil person inside me has to be bound, chained, gagged and sat upon to prevent him from makeing me say, "Aww, who let the skirts in here?"
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would say that perhaps you experience may be a little narrow on this point. I know and have known women that were not at all as you have described here, but they were ladies in every sense of the word. Some were powerful and independent, others were proud. Some were just plain stubborn, but they were all ladies.

Krsqk December 17th, 2002 05:26 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
I must have been brought up wrong, then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I was taught to open doors out of respect, not sympathy (not the word I want, but can't think of it tonight). And to open them for both men and women--out of respect. Guess my parents failed again... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif


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