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Fyron April 15th, 2003 02:25 AM

Re: Empire creation->Tolerance ?
 
Try Berserkers, 51 ER, 105 Happiness, 109 Reproduction. No net effect (except for a 1% bonus to happiness), as many free points as you can get from ER.

Asmala April 15th, 2003 06:56 PM

Re: Empire creation->Tolerance ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ruatha:
So what level is recommended for ER and reproduction?
ER 81% and repro 100%?
I mean, what gives most points without sacrificing too much.
Is there a standard, as ground combat standard seems to be 51% (or was it 50%)..

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What's the best ratio for ER and reprodution. Well, there isn't only one answer to this. If you want you can go to almost none-reproduction with 50% ER and 91% RP but I don't recommend that.

If you want to get some reproduction just set ER to 81% and don't touch to RP.

Finally there is the best ratio (at least I think so) which I use almost always. By setting ER to 81% and RP 110% you have 27% reproduction in optimal/jubilant planet and that's quite much. Also dropping ER to 81% and raising RP to 110% costs +225 points so you get points instead of losing them.

Fyron April 15th, 2003 06:58 PM

Re: Empire creation->Tolerance ?
 
That also gives a 3% happiness penalty, which doesn't make that big a difference, but it does make some.

Asmala April 15th, 2003 07:12 PM

Re: Empire creation->Tolerance ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
That also gives a 3% happiness penalty, which doesn't make that big a difference, but it does make some.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you don't touch Happiness that 3% doesn't matter at all because only every 5% of Happiness are counted just like ER. Do you know how worthless Happiness is? (And to avoid confusion I mean only this game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

Fyron April 15th, 2003 07:31 PM

Re: Empire creation->Tolerance ?
 
Where did you get only every 5% of happiness being counted from?

I just sent an email to MM about these traits, and hopefully I will get a reply soon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ April 15, 2003, 18:34: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Asmala April 15th, 2003 09:28 PM

Re: Empire creation->Tolerance ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Where did you get only every 5% of happiness being counted from?

I just sent an email to MM about these traits, and hopefully I will get a reply soon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Result of my own research in Newbie FAQ:

1.2.4 Happiness: Every five percentage points you increase your happiness makes 0,1% people happier every turn. For example if you increase happiness 10% it's the same effect if you have one troop on your every planet.(Asmala)

You can test it if you want but this is how it works.

Fyron April 15th, 2003 09:38 PM

Re: Empire creation->Tolerance ?
 
I dunno how accurate that is. That is why I sent that email to MM. Let's just wait for the official response so we can get all of these traits clarified once and for all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Asmala April 17th, 2003 09:35 PM

Re: Empire creation->Tolerance ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I dunno how accurate that is. That is why I sent that email to MM. Let's just wait for the official response so we can get all of these traits clarified once and for all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No response yet?

Fyron April 17th, 2003 09:41 PM

Re: Empire creation->Tolerance ?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by asmala:
No response yet?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nope. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ April 17, 2003, 20:41: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Asmala April 23rd, 2003 05:11 PM

Re: Empire creation->Tolerance ?
 
No answer yet I guess.

I made some tests with happiness and ER and I noticed that ER didn't affect to happiness. If you don't believe me I can give some numbers so you can test it yourself.


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