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hmm.. never had that problem....

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ah, there just angry about 1812. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">They don't like Tronoto? They sound more like Canadians who live anywhere but in Toronto?? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Loser, I think I love you man. I have never encountered an American who put it in such precise terms. Mind you, the AVERAGE American far outnumbers the enlightened few, which I number you, and most SE4 players, among.

DavidG.... I've encountered that logic before. Its disturbing. Now mind you, any Ontarians in the Golden Horseshoe dont dislike Toronto, but outside of that, they seem to think their small town of 1 to 10 hundred, with nothing to do on a weekday afternoon yet alone saturday night except get drunk/high/stoned/throw your life away.

And the ones who don't like Toronto, are the ones who have either never been here, or havent been here in years. Its easy to not like what you dont know.

I mean, I still love the fact that CNN said there was mass looting, out of control fires, and riots in.... I forget if it was Toronto or Ottawa they said. LOL.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think you would find that the vast majority of Americans have no ill feelings towards Canadians. If we like to laugh aboot you it's all in good fun. We poke fun at each other just as much or more then we do Canadians. I doubt very few hold a grudge about the territory issues. Most don't even know you took part of Maine. Truth be told a disturbingly large number of Americans probably couldn't find Canada or Maine on a map. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Thank E3. Hey, if you like what I'm saying, bump my rating. It's borderline and I'd like to keep the 4 after the next time I tick someone off.

On the other hand, if my statements are ever truly offensive to anyone, I'd understand, even expect them to give it a whack. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oddly I don't think it's even tought it schools, or mentioned in most text books. These same text books carry the map of the Colonies where Maine comes to a more severe point, then just don't offer an explaination for why it no longer looks that way. In fact, I don't even remember being taught that Canada was involved in 1812, let alone that exiled loyalists and their kin supplyed so much to it.

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[quote]Originally posted by geoschmo:

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If we like to laugh aboot you it's all in good fun.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Time to start fixing this. We do not say "aboot" we say about, just like everyone else. Perhaps one day in the past an American overheard a scott in Canada say "aboot" and then I would understand if you all bugged scotts from then on about it, but we Canadians say ABOUT... AB-OUT. What? Do you hear us say "get oot" or "I can figure oot this problem"? NO you don't.

BTW, I fully expect a few halfwhits to respond saying stuff like, "I heard a Canadian say it that way" but lets face it, they'd be full of #$@%.

cya

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Now, a lot of you all do have an accent, even if you all don't. It's very close to the accent you'll find in some northern states in the Union, like the Dakotas or Wisconsin. To be fair, we make fun of (laugh about) each other's accents as much as, if not more, than we do at out neighbor's accents. Consider the South, or the myriad accents available for comment on the northern end of the East Coast, or even the accents in the north. In truth, the rural folk here in Colorado have an accent very close to that you'd find in rural East Texas.

I had a friend from North Dakota who pronounced 'beg' and 'bag' almost indistinguishably. Our little clique would give her a hard time about it, but no more than we'd chide any other member of the group about their own little aspects of individuality.

Now what I'm wondering is how many folk who don't live there can tell the difference between a rural Tennessee and rural Texas accent.

(On a side note, I knew it was borderline, but I don't know what I said that was offensive. Oh well, I could scroll back and try to figure it out. Was it the Dome Colony comment?)

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Well, when I was there, it took me a week to figure out what the locals were saying.

Now just to add some fuel to this, from the very mouths of some up-overs

http://www.gateway2china.com/communi...ages/1008.html

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gotta love 3rd gen from the sausage. Oshawa is too good for them. racist donut shop sun readers where they get thir economic information from.

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hey the http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif disappeared..

perhaps you should have given the following warning

This link is full of swear words, random typing and a bunch of yahoo rejects http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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SO YOU WANT TO SPEAK CANADIAN, EH?
Americans traveling in Canada will likely encounter people who dress and speak English in much the same way as they do, expect for the approximately 25% of french speakers who may (not necessarily) speak english with a french accent.
Canadian speech is much more similar to American speech than to the English spoken in England and other parts of the United Kingdom. However, Americans may hear a British-like accent in Canadian speech. This is due in part to the fact that Canadians often use "raised vowel" sounds, resulting in the more clipped, "British" sound. Listen to a Canadian say "out and about". Americans tend to hear it as "oot and aboot" (rhymes with hoot). Of course, if you mention this to a Canadian he may think you have lost your mind. We Canadians don't hear the difference!

The second way in which Canadian speech differs greatly from American is in the placement of the emphasis in words and division into syllables: PRO-gress vs. prog-RESS, route rhyming with out vs. root, etc.

Thirdly, english Canadians do indeed say "eh". "Eh" is used at the end of a statement or question in order to elicit a response, as in "Hot enough for you, eh?" or "How about them Oilers, eh?". It is similar to the American "huh" but has more uses. For example, Joe doesn't quite hear what Paul said so Joe says "Eh?". Paul will then realize that either Joe:

1) didn't hear him
2) didn't understand him
3) wants more information
4) thinks Paul's statement is interesting and is encouraging Paul to continue.
English speaking Canadians (anglophones) also use a few British words and expressions that may be unfamiliar to Americans. An "eLastic" is a rubber band. A chesterfield = sofa = couch. Runners = sneakers = tennis shoes. Cash register = a till. Bum = the part of the person that meets a chair. There are many more. And unlike the USA, where "ma'am" and "sir" are common polite phrases, many women in Canada (including my mother) will inform you that they are not old enough to be called "ma'am"! It is not necessarily considered polite.

The french spoken in Canada is also quite different from that taught in American classrooms. French-speakers in Canada (francophones), use hundreds of english words mixed with their french, such as "le smoked beef", "le brake drum", and "un party". The French slang spoken in the streets of Quebec or Acadia are very different from the french spoken in France.

Finally, American readers of Canadian text will notice a lot of extra "u"s tagging along behind "o"s, such as in colour, flavour, humour, and neighbour. Some of the "r"s are shy and frightened of appearing at the end of words, as in The Centre of Arts.

Those traveling in the Atlantic Provinces may feel like they have been transported to the fishing villages of Scotland and Ireland. Brave souls who get out to the "Island" (Newfoundland) are not alone in their inability to understand the fishermen's dialect. Most mainland Canadians have difficulty understanding a good "Newfy" twang too! Be careful if a fisherman offers you any "screech" though! [Screech is moonshine made from old rum barrels.]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Is that a riddle?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The first thing you must do to fix this is get a new mayor. I don't think people dislike the actual city but the attitude that your mayor presents which is like "we are #1 and FU#$ the rest of the country"

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Please tell me you don't hang out on that site. What a bunch of morrons.

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e3 can explain it. ... toronto talk http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Oshawa is a city, though few realise it to be populated enough to be called a city, that is about an hour from the borders of Toronto.

The only reason Oshawa exists, is because it was built around an old military intelligence training base durring WW2... maybe WW1.. not sure.

The reason most people dont realise it's a city is because of its large area, most of which is undeveloped, and the very spread out population.

Why is it viewed poorly by EVERY canadian in existence?

Imagine a trailer park, in the American Mid-west. Everyone of low to no income. A certin culture seems to follow people like that. Now, add in biker gangs. Hells Angels, Paradise Riders, Satan's Choice and others. I don't know which gang is the dominant one.

Wonderful culture that would be, well thats Oshawa. A bunch of drunken drug using violent people. And because the city is sooo spread out and undeveloped, the only things to do for fun are drink, get high, and ****, which results in babies some how.

I guess they never heard of condoms or the pill.
Because all 4 things, happen lots.
I've lost a sister to Oshawa. She lives, but she will never be evolved enough for city living anymore.

And regarding Toronto's mayor...
Ok I agree. Most of Toronto agrees. Who doesn't? North York. North York is in love with Mel Lastman. And he did a lot of good for that part of Toronto. Indeed, his style of being a mayor is PERFECT for them. But his methods and policies are destroying Etobicoke and Scarborough, both already in decline. He is tearing apart the beaches in the east end where I live. He is tearing apart downtown. Yet still North York thrives. People are realising this and the end to his mayoral term is comming to an end... the city hopes.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was under the impression that this aspect of South Park was to make fun of people who thought Canada was all that different from the U.S. Really, what is there to fear from Canada: there are far less of them than us, they come from the same cultural background as the U.S. baseline (only they were the loyalists and the U.S. folk were the rebels (revolutionaries is not exactly the right word)), they have the same 'frontier mentality' that shapes so much to the American ideal, especially in the rural areas.

Other than the fact that Canada is the only place the U.S. has ever lost ground and not regained it (north end of Maine, then part of Massachusetts), what grudge is there to hold against them?

I just don't get it. But I still think it's domed.

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yes, well, not everyone can tell it's a parady. paradeing is risky beyond people you know.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well not all. Man I really got to get out more! I've lived in Ontario for 25 years and never knew Oshawa had the reputation. I just thought it was some town east of Toronto
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Mind you, yes I live in the Beaches, the eastern part of the City of Toronto.

But I grew up in Scarborough, the eastern most part of Metropolotain Toronto, where Oshawa and Pickering are more of an influence than Toronto itself. Mind you, not to seem racist, because I am not, but anyone who lives in or near Toronto can confirm, Scarborough is becoming an immigrant town. I don't mean that in a derrogitory manner, I mean it literaly. Half of Scarborough doesnt know how to speak english. Skin colors range from black, to brown, to dark tanned, to olive. Rare is a white person now.

Now of course this has introduced me to many people who arent white who I am glad to have met. But I have met many people of other nationalities who are definately deserving of the derrogatory slurs that are often used against their races, mistakingly, when they should be aimed at the individuals who deserve them.

Many people in parts of Toronto are comming to assume "white culture" is what is represented in Oshawa, since the few people of white background in Toronto are ever increasingly adopting "black culture".

I mean the rap, the hip-hop, the "gangsta" culture. Thugs and wannabe thugs. The kind of things you see on the BET station.

Frankly, I will hide from the subrubs. They are too isolated and far too clique-ish. I will remain in the downtown of Toronto. Where people are so tightly packed that cultural and sub-cultural choices are irrelevant.

Myself?
I listen to bands like Das Ich, VNV Nation, Covenant (NOT Kovenant!), Apoptygma Berzerk, Project Pitchfork. These are the bands that best embody the sub-culture I've chosen.

Some would call me a goth. I don't like that term. I am not depressed, I am not mourning for the death of the world.
I enjoy life, I celebrate it. I revel in it.
In its darker aspects anyways.
Goth yes, industrial, darkrave. Any dark electronic music for me thank you very much.

THOUGH, I don't know how we got from talk about a Power out, to a gas leak in Arizona area, to a discussion on Toronto, to talk about sub-cultures and racial diversity.

Feel free to hit the abort-fail-retry key any time.

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Oh yeah, cant forget Wumpscut.
Never forget Wumpscut.
hehehehe

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You actually read it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

I just did a search and gave the first few Posts a quick glance. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, the ones I met in the south were speaking what would pass for american. The ones up north seemed to have socks in their mouths when they talked.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Please tell me you don't hang out on that site. What a bunch of morrons.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, I was just in a mood to fire things up a little so I ran "Canada sucks" past Google.

I did another country too, but I'll sit on the results from that one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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