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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Alright, that will be perfect.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Don't think so. With a nice map everything should be OK.

Good luck to everybody. I have kept the Horde on a low fat diet since the end of RTH1 and they are veeeery huuungry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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hmmm strange when i delete systems in the map editor it moves the stuff to other systems So this is very bizzare....

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hmm.... bump

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hmm.... bump

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That is very strange. I have never seen the map editor do something like that before. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

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Why are you bumping? Are you looking for a comment on something?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That is very strange. I have never seen the map editor do something like that before. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have. It's always done that. Just one more in the long list of bugs in the map editor. You have to delete all the objects in the system first and then delete the system.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I see, I guess I just haven't used the map editor enough to see these sorts of problems.

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thanks geo... delete the objects first.

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Do you know if all the objects go to the same system ??? if so would it not be easier to delete all the systems and then go to the bit bucket system and create 10 warp points to itself ??

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Huh? Crazy map-maker talk!

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this is holding up the maps... it will be sunday now... sorry people

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what's the word, Thunderbird?

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the maps will be posted in about 4 to 5 hours.

One day of voting by the players...

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4 maps

Man I have had zero time and many set backs in the map world

4 maps..

Each system has the same amount of planets... each player has the same amount of systems.

This is balance.

There is one random planet per system http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif this is not balance.

I think they could be fun maps for this game. As it is a slug fest. To think otherwise is a mistake

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Wow, that really is an obscene number of planets in each system. How many planets does each player get?

The only real difference between maps I noticed was that "clust5.map" had several empty systems that are effectively free for the taking for any empire that wants to bother to warp in, ignite a star, and build a sphereworld. I guess they could also end up being the major battle fields, since it would be hard to get a system shield up and running in these systems in any reasonable time. I suppose "clust5.map" is my favorite, although I'd prefer less planets per system.

I guess I was just expecting a "conventional" map, except with balanced planet numbers.

Edit: I don't mean to sound harsh, Tesco. I do appreciate the fact that you made these maps for us.

[ March 01, 2004, 04:47: Message edited by: Spoo ]

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well here i am sitting here waiting to be paged back for a problem from work.

the other maps do not have that many planets

well 3 of them have about 1/3 that number

and the Last 3 maps are just plain old stock maps

i just did not have time to clean them up yet.

since i am waiting for the call back from work i will work on the stock maps

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ps what is a conventional map ??

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smaller planet cluster

Here is one of the smaller plaent ones... with lots of empty systems...

this one is my score of 10

check this one out. not as many planets... but 100% balanced from what i can tell

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Yes, I do like "sclust1.map" better. It has more breathing room, and I like the empty "war zone" systems. The idea of all huge worlds is interesting. It may not be pretty to look at (IMHO), but I do like the idea of all that cargo space.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I would define "convential" as what SE4 would give me when I click on "generate map". (With or without Fyron's Quadrant Mod)

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ah, this may be what I'm looking for. I'm eager to see how these turn out. I didn't realize that you still had more maps to post.

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Spoo the first RTH game had on average 25 to 30 planets a system. So even map #5 with all those planets will not come close to the hell of game 1.

Were talking I was a minor power with 800 planets or something like that.

5 more maps to come later today. so we can vote

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I think it is between clust5 and sclust1 for the final maps. I like how sclust1 is set up but I also like how clust5 has some more planets. I will go with the majority vote between those two.

Edit: Thanks for putting so much work into these maps tesco. I really do appreciate it!

[ March 01, 2004, 14:21: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">More then that, I get access errors when I try to use that map in a game or edit that system in the map editor. Don't know what the problem is, but I think that map is a loss. Got currupted or something.

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1. clust 5
2. sclust 1


I think that clust 5 would be really good if some additonal blank systems were added around the map.

Clust 5 will make for a over kill game.

In the tradition of RTH. And it is still not as many planets as the first game. At least with both maps all players will have equal chance of getting their butts kicked.

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All of these maps are OK with me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Maps look okie dokie

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fqm clust 3

this is an example of what the first game was like.

Problem is that there is a system in the bottom right that will not disappear

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I'm cool with any of the maps, lets just start http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

i've uploaded my empire and now we are all ready...

lets get going?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hmmm... yes. I think that is reasonable http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif However, what are you gonna do if we ally at the beginning? Wouldn't that give us an edge http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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he forgot to mention that you both will be placed in a space pod with 10 days of breathable air and 4 packs of smokes to keep you company http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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So, with a player checking out, whats the plan? Continue or restart?

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I think we should restart. No point in inviting the AI this early.

Also, shouldn't we make sure that the number of clusters equals the new number of players? Otherwise, whoever finds the empty cluster first has a big advantage.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think we will stick you and karibu inside a empty system with 1 planet each with a ban on SM for you...The rest of us would like a chance to win you know... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

PBW seems to be down for the moment so I will get the game set up as soon as that is up again and also when the Last (2?) empires are uploaded. If every one agrees that both maps are acceptable then I will just randomly pick on and let everyone know which one it is.

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i will delete a cluster and have it set to 9 players... I also added the player to my list of Banned players who are not invited to join games i host. Any other game admins want the name send me an email.

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Just curious, but why'd you ban him from other games you host?

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Players should not sign up for a game and then as soon as it starts just drop it.

The other players do not need that. It can ruin a game even before it gets going.

So I like to avoid those situations. This is one way of making that happen.

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I assume that we don't have to join in any new game because you make a new map? Or do we have to make something...?

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i think the easy way would be to mark the empire dead and then the game admin sends out the new turn with just 9 empires in a new game... that way we do not have to quit or join a new game.

The bottom left cluster was cleaned out and made empty... just so you know

and start positions were added for the remaining clusters...

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ok, thanks for doing that Tesco...I removed some of the empty systems, just far too many I think. I will send it to everyone so that we are all on even terms as far as the map goes. I will set up the game real quick and we can get started again. Hopefully this time without any problems. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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so whats the plan?
Are we continuing w/ what we have or should I wait for a new gamefile?

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well, i did get the new turn and send in my first turn already http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

however, in light of the loss of a 10th player (and cuz of my 120% research stupidity)
i'd like to suggest getting a 10th? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

(perhaps i can re-spend my research points too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

i think geo was talking about perhaps joining this one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I guess since it is the first turn we could but I personally am against it. But as usual, I will go with the majority...Whatever will make my players happy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
What does everyone else think?

[ March 04, 2004, 14:12: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

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does not bother me. 9 players or 10.... But if we restart this has to be the Last one...

And I do not wish to wait for a 10th player... If we have one on the restart that is cool if not then 9 it is.

the 10 player Version of the map will need the starting positions added.

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I have no roblems either way, but of course it is Rags who have to do all the work http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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I would be more willing to restart if the players who have uploaded could keep their turns. But that would not be possible since when I make the game again the start positions for each player will change.
I sent a news item to everyone to vote on. I will go with majority, whatever it may be by the time I get off work today.

I apologize to all for all of this.

[ March 04, 2004, 15:11: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

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again, i too am cool either way =D

i dont really need the extra points from research... and, if i win - then i got much more braggin rights eh?

lets just continue the current game - unless geo pipes up and does want to join as #10 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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I'd accept a restart, since it is the first turn.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">We are going to just continue on since Cirvol said he is willing to continue. Let the games begin! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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That's fine with me too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif