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Oh! Got me!
No, really, I'm here for RPing fun, but I just can't gaurentee that everyone else is http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif And, well, I haven't looked at the map yet, so I see no reason to start now. Takes all the fun out of it. I just hope nobody comes and nukes MY homeworld on turn three.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Do we have a ferengi player yet? EDIT: Hey! When you say " If you want to be unsporting and out for blood in a role played game, then look at the map and take the fun out. Simple." You're busting my chops, aintcha? Smart-aleck....harupmh! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Quote:
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Well personally I'm mostly in this game for the RP aspect. Although it might be nice as the Dominion to spill a little Federation blood! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif So I personally don't think I'll look at the map, because I really enjoy the exploration part of the game. The possibility that the next system I warp into may have a black hole, or a 100 ship enemy fleet, or 10 huge breathables (I know, I'm dreaming here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif ). And I think most other people here are here for the RP part of the game. If someone decided to nuke someone's homeworld in the first year, well the rest of us can gang up on him and obliterate him! Then we can get on with the RP part after he's gone!
(EDIT: Woohoo, 400th post!! I'm a second lieutenant now! Lets see...I joined Sept 12,2003...that's 400 Posts in 214 days, an average of 1.87 Posts per day. Not bad!) [ April 12, 2004, 17:54: Message edited by: Renegade 13 ] |
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I would like to know if we can make the turn duration 60 hours, as my wife and me could not support 48 hours?
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[quote]Originally posted by Renegade 13:
[ Although it might be nice as the Dominion to spill a little Federation blood! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif What do you exactly mean by spilling blood? I never see any of my redshirts spill anything, therefore the federation is the ultimative race to choose. Redshirts never die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Har,har! Now i got you all! Picard wll rule this universe! BLast you!!! Ermmm.... what did i say!? ......... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif |
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Hi,
60 hours is okay with me (alread knew that you would come with that question Ralf http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) Let us quit the map discussion, for now, as soon as the map is ready I will send it to everyone, and everone can spit fire again about the map..... But again I REALLY want to go for the real thing........ About Intel: I'm willing to discus it again. But the propossed ideas are good, so I want to stick to it with an addition: every mayor player can add 3 projects of his choice to the Intel list, and 2 for Minors. Inti, BTW. Alarikf, I don't think you will ever shut up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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Nah, I know when I'm beat. I just wanted to bring up my misgivings, really, they're minor and I am definitely in, no matter what.
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I will ask Geoschmo to the Mod on PBW, and hoppefuly I can creat the game in the next couple of days, I keep you informed.
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About Intel...
Beware of Bajorans Shakaar resistance and our Kohn-Ma......... :-) [ April 13, 2004, 06:20: Message edited by: Kiedryn ] |
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Hi,
Kiedryn, how far are you with finding an proper Bajoran shipset. Inti, |
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Hi!
I do have problems with components and planets and facilities in the mod. As the mising image 2 file is not downloadable, which files must i dl to have all the required pictures? I looked at the image mod mirror but was not sure which files i need( i have a image mod file but it is at least 6 months old). Can anybody help? |
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TRY THIS ONE It is the updated 172 patch with the two missing component images. (uploading now will be available within an hour) Here are the component and Facilities images only. Components Facilities On Line and working |
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Lord Evil, you also need to download the image mod modules and install them.
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A update of the rules sofar.
The map will be ready tommorow I hope. And I contacted Geoschmo, so that will be done in a few days also. Still need a few players, so to all of you. find some people. Hirogen, Nausicaan etc etc... Game : Star Trek, Quadrants of Conflict. Mod : Star Trek Mod v1.7.2 Turns : 60 hours. Map : Will be send to everyone of you asap, but STAR TREK Universe map. Events : Medium / Catastrophic. Technology Cost : Medium Score Display : Own No tech trade/gift. But ship trade/gift is allowed. ----Races: Major Races: Good/Large Planet / 5000 Racial points 8472 : Aiken Borg : Petra Breen : Atrocities Cardassian : Tnarg Dominion : Renegade 13 Federation : Annika Ferengi : Ed Kolis Klingons : Alarikf Orions : Tomecki Romulans : Intimidator Tholians : BlackRose Minor Races: Good/Medium Planet / 2000 Racial points Bajoran : Kiedryn Vulcan : Dizzycow Gorn : Nausicaan: Sheliak : Kazon : Ragnorak-X Vaadwaur : Hirogen : ----Empire setup rules: 1. Planet and Atmosphere type from standard setup. 2. Every major race must pick up its own race culture. 3. Every major race must have their planet type world natives trait and their racial technology trait. 4. Happiness type from standard setup: ie, Renegades for 8472. 5. Everything else is to player's discretion. ----Intelligences limitations rules: Every race has his own specific Intel-ops. they can use, described below. And they can pick and additional 3 Intel-ops. of their own choice (2 for human-minor-races). These ads however must be notified to the gamehost prior to the gamestart.(For rules-control purposes) -- Crew insurection is forbidden (except for the Dominon and 8472) -- And NO Planet-Taking-Intel-**** at all (find that unrealistic !!) **8472** Counter Intellegence 1-2 Crew Insurrection **Borg** Counter Intellegence 1 **Breen** Counter Intellegenc 1-3 **Cardassian** Counter Inteligence 1-3 Intellegence Sabotage Ship Bomb Engine Damage Fuel Leak Cargo Bomb **Dominion** Counter Intel 1-2 Infiltrator Population Destabilization Political Assassination Anarchy Groups Industrial Sabotage Communications Mimic Crew Inssurection **Federation** Counter Intel 1 Communications Taps Embassy Taps **Ferengi** Counter Intel 1 Economic Dissruption Resource Procurment Trade Disruption **Klingon** Counter Intel 1-2 **Orion** Counter Intel 1-2 Planet Bomb Planet Sabotage Terrorist Bombing **Romulan** Counter Intel 1-3 Biological Weapon Deployment Political Assassination *Entire General Espionage File* Weather Disruption Ground Contamination Food Contamination Cargo Maintenance Problems Communications Taps Communications Interceptors **Tholian** Counter Intel 1-3 **All Minors** Counter Intel 1-2 **Bajoran** Political Assassination Industrial Sabotage ----Treaty Rules: Borg : only Non-agression, with only 1 race at the time (Example: they did have some sort of pact with the Voyager once, so they are willing to coorporate sometimes if it is in their interest) Dominion : only 1 Partnership or Military Alliance, rest is unlimited. (Example: Dominion/Cardasian pact) All other Major Races : only 2 Partnerships or Military Aliances, rest is unlimited. (Example: Federation/Romulan/Klingon pact against Dominion) All Minor Races : only 1 Partnerships or Military Aliance, rest is unlimited. ----Stellar Manupilation You can use all of these techs except Warp point opening/closing. ---- NO RULE BUT RECOMMONDATION: Do not entirly kill an race after winning the war, let him have an small or tiny planet. So that it is possible to get him back in the race after liberation or politics by a third party. (Federation liberating Bajoran for example). Let me know if there are any question, remarks or new ideas. Intimidator [ April 13, 2004, 16:22: Message edited by: Intimidator ] |
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you have 8472 as having Crew Insurrection there, mistake?
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Sorry my fault is changed already !!
Inti, |
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Hi!
So, after installing those image mod files, i am still missing some facilities for borg (as my wife told me) and federation also! It seems, that we do not have any facility pictures greater than 560. So could anybody sed them to us (petra-ralf.burg@gmx.de) or tell me where to find them? ( ah yes, i updated my profile from lord evil, dumb name, to this one) [ April 13, 2004, 13:24: Message edited by: Heretic ] |
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Updated 172 patch Mirror.
Patch v172 It is the updated 172 patch with the two missing component images. Here are ALL the component and Facilities images only in one file. Components Facilities [ April 13, 2004, 13:26: Message edited by: Atrocities ] |
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inti´s idea of letting some parts of a race survive and install a vichy administration is very intriguing. I think this is a really good idea! Thats what those subjungation and protectorate traties are made for.
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Thanks atrocities!
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It should. I was very surprised to find out that the image mod was not up to date. If I had known that to begin with I would have included all the images in the patch and full Version of the mod. The updated full Version now has all of the facility and component images included.
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Given that we can choose to take an additional 3 intel-ops, does anyone out there have a list of all the intel ops in the star trek mod? I never got far enough along in intel to know what is out there...
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Hi,
I got some response from Geoschmo, so hoepfully I can put the game on PBW this evening (GMT+1) Inti, |
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Hmmm... I hear you're looking for someone to play the Ferengi? Well I could do that... for a price http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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Alarikf: Start an game with the Klingon with all the techs researched, and you can see it yourself with an description.
That's the way I check things out, I'm not that addicted that I remember all of the items available in this game at once. I agree with the ship trading, Heretic. You are right, they share a lot of ships. They even share shipnames but differnet designs (Bird of Prey) Inti, |
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I'm not convinced of that
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hmm I dont seem to get the mod to work:( I have instaled 1.66 than 1.72 than the pictures, and than 1.72 fix.. but still it dont work I have 1.91 gold Version off star empire.. the problem comes when I trie to make a new game all the ai and map generator files are not there or corrupted..
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I presume you're going to just add people directly so they get in the right order for the map to work, no? Feel free to add me directly. My username is "alarikf"
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Okay my friends..........
Time the sign up, it's available on PBW. And I created the game already. Don't worry about the map-order just join the game... As soon as everyone is in, I will change the starting positions in the map according to the player-order on PBW. Intimidator, |
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This is my first PBW game and I think I did everything correctly. Anything else I need to kknow b4 the game starts? Should I pre create my emp file or anything? Or just any thing I need to do that a newb wouldnt know http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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Wuhahahaahah!!!!
I am coming ant gitcha with my novanew ultra-sovereign class warship! 120 Phaser banks, 10 quadruple quantum torpedo tubes,Class XX Deflector shields, Klingon slave boarding crews with SHARP Bath´Lets... No more mister nice guy picard! No more passive resistance! Time to kick some ***!!!!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif |
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Whoa. Too much coffee this morning?
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We didn't even start and he lost his Role already........... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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Please forgive my husband!!!
Like our childs he gets really fast excited! And if he has had a day full of masty students stomping around over this site......... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif BTW don´t tell i told you. |
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ssssssssssssssttt !!!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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heck, this sounds like a LOT of fun. I cant wait to get into my role as the Kazon. Hehe time to kick some SERIOUS BORG BUTT. Then again maybe the Borg would make a good protectorate partner, unless of course they need to many of the kazon...
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need help. Im playing the Kazon, but i dont know THAT much about them, so i searched the net for info, like how their homeworlds looks. I didnt find anything though, i know they are warriors and are guided by sects which are leaded by a Majin or something. Can someone help me setting up the race and tell me the native homeworld type ? thanks.
In addition, do i have to stick with general race tech, or could i spend by 2000 points to invest into i.e. Pirate tech ? I think pirate would somehow fit the kazon ?! btw im looking forward to a great RPG experience. |
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So Ragnarok-X
Here is your homework, have fun !! http://members.fortunecity.de/neutralzone/Kazon.htm http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~djc/star...nd/kazon1.html http://news.slasims.com/races.php?race=Kazon http://www.startreklives.de/cultures/kazon.htm http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Rampart/3448/kazon.html See ya, Inti |
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Ragnarok-X you can't pick up Pirate race trait because it's for Orions, which are major race not minor.
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Hi,
Aiken: I do not agree with you, It's called Pirate race not Orion Race. So I think it could be used for the Kazon (but if you do so Ragnarok-X, don't use the general race-tech. choose only 1) Atrocities, can you tell me how it is meant ?? Inti, |
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Intimidator, I partly agree with you, but don't agree in general, in spite of all my respect for you - Pirate Race is the RP trait much like Warrior Tech trait. But, since Orions doesn't have Orion tech trait like other major races, to compensate this Pirate trait gives you abilities (weapons and facilities) comparable to other major races techs. Granting Kazon with Pirate race you'll bring into the game another major race, that is.
Anyway this is minority report and if you find it interesting (piratic Kazon) I'll have fun eraducating pirate race (uncleans and weak in the Delta Quadrant will perish, grrrh) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif And of course we'd like to hear Atrocities opinion about this. [ April 13, 2004, 22:37: Message edited by: aiken ] |
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Let's wait what Atrocities have to say on this, he made the mod.
I really don't know. But I don't believe the Kazon could become an major race, because the penalties on racial points and planet are to high to outplay the major races. And maybe the pirate tech is giving him some better weapons, he has to invent them first.... But w'll see, Intimidator |
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Ooopz, I forgot about RP and planet size penalty http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Considering this you're right, I think.
But from academic point of view... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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