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Fyron August 20th, 2004 07:06 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
Quote:
narf poit chez BOOM said:
And they still don't parralel process, right?

Our amiga did that. Probably why our 8MHz amiga 500 had better graphics than our 33MHz ibm.
Sure they do. Get a server case, a server MB, and two CPUs. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Many better servers out there have 2 CPUs. Intel Pentiums these days have "hyper-threading", which supposedly makes the CPU act like it were 2 CPUs in parallel processing...

narf poit chez BOOM August 20th, 2004 10:07 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
Well, yeah, but amiga's had it build in.

/me wonders how much a new cpu would cost...

Fyron August 20th, 2004 10:11 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
Newer Pentium IVs have it built in...

New CPU will probably cost around 300 to 400 dollars US, unless you want the very newest... which might run up to 600 or so. Then, you have to get a new motherboard, which will be another 130 to 200, depending on what you get...

narf poit chez BOOM August 20th, 2004 10:16 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
Quote:
Imperator Fyron said:
Newer Pentium IVs have it built in...

New CPU will probably cost around 300 to 400 dollars US, unless you want the very newest... which might run up to 600 or so. Then, you have to get a new motherboard, which will be another 130 to 200, depending on what you get...
Still says something about ibm that it took them that long to get around to it.

Fyron August 20th, 2004 10:22 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
IBM does not make Pentiums. That would be Intel. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif So technically, IBM never got around to it.

Intel had essentially no real competition during most of the 90s. It has not been until the past few years when AMD came about that they have needed to really innovate. They had no reason to develop such technologies until recently, really. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

narf poit chez BOOM August 20th, 2004 11:30 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
Quote:
Imperator Fyron said:
IBM does not make Pentiums. That would be Intel. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif So technically, IBM never got around to it.

Intel had essentially no real competition during most of the 90s. It has not been until the past few years when AMD came about that they have needed to really innovate. They had no reason to develop such technologies until recently, really. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
Can I get a quick rundown on what getting another 2ghz cpu in there would entail? How much of a speed boost would it provide, please?

This is mostly just curiosity, since I don't have the money, so don't strain yourself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Suicide Junkie August 20th, 2004 11:55 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
A new motherboard, and rebuilding your OS probably.

The speed improvement will max out at about +80%, for bigtime number crunching.
Anything that uses the disk will be just as crappy as before, and memory-intensive work will hold you back too.

narf poit chez BOOM August 21st, 2004 12:25 AM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
Quote:
Suicide Junkie said:
A new motherboard, and rebuilding your OS probably.

The speed improvement will max out at about +80%, for bigtime number crunching.
Anything that uses the disk will be just as crappy as before, and memory-intensive work will hold you back too.
Is it worth it for games? Doesn't sound like it. Thanks.
Well, games don't typically hit the disk, or they'd be unplayable on any machine.

Games do quite a bit of number crunching, to calculate vectors for bullets and collision detection, and all that.
It will help, but the graphics card will almost certainly still be your bottleneck.

Fyron August 21st, 2004 12:44 AM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
The speed of your RAM will hold you back as much as the speed of the onboard memory of the video card. Almost no games (none, probably) actually use all of even a 2.0 GHz processor. The rest of the computer is too slow to keep up, so it inevitably has to wait, thus wasting cycles. Getting a second CPU really doesn't do much for games... Rendering 3D images in Wings 3d and such will definitely see a boost, though it might not be worth the cost of a new motherboard, case (most desktop cases won't fit a server motherboard too well) and CPU. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

narf poit chez BOOM August 21st, 2004 12:50 AM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
Quote:
narf poit chez BOOM said:
Quote:
Suicide Junkie said:
A new motherboard, and rebuilding your OS probably.

The speed improvement will max out at about +80%, for bigtime number crunching.
Anything that uses the disk will be just as crappy as before, and memory-intensive work will hold you back too.
Is it worth it for games? Doesn't sound like it. Thanks.
Well, games don't typically hit the disk, or they'd be unplayable on any machine.

Games do quite a bit of number crunching, to calculate vectors for bullets and collision detection, and all that.
It will help, but the graphics card will almost certainly still be your bottleneck.
Hey SJ, you hit the edit button, not the quote button. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Kamog August 24th, 2004 02:17 AM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
The first computer I ever used was a Commodore Pet. It had a small green monochrome screen, and a slow, slow tape drive. The programs were written in BASIC. The very first video game I played was on that Commodore Pet. It was Space Invaders, and the graphics were very blocky. But it was wonderful...

The very first word processor I used was called "Magic Windows" and it ran on the Apple IIE. We inserted control characters before and after sections of text to get formatting like bold and underline. I was so happy with it because a word processor was so superior to an electric typewriter. I learned to type on an IBM electric typewriter...

The very first graphics program I used was Print Shop on the Apple IIE. I used it to make title pages for reports and things. When I think back, I realize just how clunky those graphics were and how slow that program ran, but at the time I thought it was so great.

narf poit chez BOOM August 24th, 2004 05:29 AM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
Better and better and better graphics...

I just want to be able to say 'Computer, make a free-form RPG game'...:D

Kamog August 24th, 2004 10:12 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...omanSample.gif
We need names for these pretty new emoticons that David made.

How about:
1. black-haired girl: Vivian
2. blonde: Trish
3. brunette: Nicole
4. red head: Natasha

Raging Deadstar August 24th, 2004 11:04 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
Quote:
narf poit chez BOOM said:
Better and better and better graphics...

I just want to be able to say 'Computer, make a free-form RPG game'...:D
Bah, Humbug!!!

I haven't played an Online RPG Game (i mean an actual published game) in years. Now actual RPG's with friends and sheets of paper and such is where it's at.

Wait No...That doesn't involve a computer...Maybe...we Don't need computers to do...Everything! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

*GASP*

Will August 25th, 2004 04:11 AM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
You will be drawn and quartered for even suggesting such a thing. "Don't need computers to do everything". You know better! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon13.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon13.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon13.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon13.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon13.gif[/img]

Kamog August 25th, 2004 09:53 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
That's right.

[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon13.gif[/img] THE COMPUTER IS YOUR FRIEND. [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon13.gif[/img]

Suicide Junkie August 26th, 2004 02:16 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
Ow, sorry Narf.

-----

Here's a game for everybody and their kids!
http://imagemodserver.mine.nu/nick/games/DOGGIE3.zip

Run around the city, peeing on all the fire hydrants while you try to avoid getting smushed by the cars http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
- For 1 or 2 players.
- Requirements: CGA video card, keyboard, 20Mhz or higher reccommended.

Suicide Junkie August 30th, 2004 12:55 AM
Re: Petey\'s Back!
 
Yay!
For all you schlock fans:
http://imagemodserver.mine.nu/nick/p...Happydance.gif

Perrin August 30th, 2004 03:05 PM
Re: Petey\'s Back!
 
Quote:
Suicide Junkie said:
Yay!
For all you schlock fans:
http://imagemodserver.mine.nu/nick/p...Happydance.gif
I see your happy dance and raise you one plasma bLast.
http://students.bath.ac.uk/en3elb/schlockicon.gif

narf poit chez BOOM August 30th, 2004 04:01 PM
Re: Petey\'s Back!
 
And they call me disturbed...

Will August 30th, 2004 04:39 PM
inconsiderate people
 
So I went to Westwood (nice suburb-type area, home of UCLA campus) with a group of friends, to go to this really good cookie shop. And we're standing outside, and we see this Audi trying to parallel park on the street... the only problem is, the Audi is backing up into the space (like you're supposed to do), and there's a huge Ford SUV that's pulling in forward into the space as the Audi is backing up. Now obviously, the Audi has the space, so they're staying there with the back end of the car in the space, waiting for the idiot SUV driver to get a clue and park somewhere else. At this point, my entire group of friends knows about the situation, and is talking about it loudly, so everyone else on the street knows too. And for the next three minutes, the Audi is just sitting there, and the SUV keeps pulling back and forth, trying to fit into the smaller space and kick out the Audi. Finally the Audi driver just gives up and drives away to find parking elsewhere. Five minutes later, the SUV driver manages to get the monster parked, after one of the (scantilly-clad, female) passengers gets out and directs, while talking on a cell phone. Then the driver (also scantilly-clad, female) gets out, also on a cell phone, and the two proceed to walk down the street, each still talking on their phones.

Sometimes, I really hate Californians.

TerranC August 30th, 2004 07:32 PM
Re: inconsiderate people
 
Quote:
Will said:
So I went to Westwood (nice suburb-type area, home of UCLA campus) with a group of friends, to go to this really good cookie shop. And we're standing outside, and we see this Audi trying to parallel park on the street... the only problem is, the Audi is backing up into the space (like you're supposed to do), and there's a huge Ford SUV that's pulling in forward into the space as the Audi is backing up. Now obviously, the Audi has the space, so they're staying there with the back end of the car in the space, waiting for the idiot SUV driver to get a clue and park somewhere else. At this point, my entire group of friends knows about the situation, and is talking about it loudly, so everyone else on the street knows too. And for the next three minutes, the Audi is just sitting there, and the SUV keeps pulling back and forth, trying to fit into the smaller space and kick out the Audi. Finally the Audi driver just gives up and drives away to find parking elsewhere. Five minutes later, the SUV driver manages to get the monster parked, after one of the (scantilly-clad, female) passengers gets out and directs, while talking on a cell phone. Then the driver (also scantilly-clad, female) gets out, also on a cell phone, and the two proceed to walk down the street, each still talking on their phones.

Sometimes, I really hate Californians.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

David E. Gervais August 30th, 2004 10:03 PM
Re: inconsiderate people
 
Don't mind me, I'm just invading this thread with an Oogly..

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...862-Oogly2.gif

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

narf poit chez BOOM August 30th, 2004 10:12 PM
Re: inconsiderate people
 
Panda panda panda panda panda panda panda panda panda panda panda panda panda panda

Kamog August 31st, 2004 02:08 AM
OOT: Thread Overflow Depository
 
Quote:
Did you know that dolphins are so intelligent that within only a few weeks of captivity, they can train Americans to stand at the very edge of the pool and throw them fish?
Yes, dolphins are actually smarter than humans. Humans are only the third most intelligent species on earth.

The most intelligent species on earth, of course, are mice. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

narf poit chez BOOM August 31st, 2004 02:28 AM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository
 
Of course. Now, if you'll just stand right here, we can rewire your br...I mean, give you a nice present.

Will August 31st, 2004 04:51 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository
 
Only a certain type of mice, which are actually interdimensional beings masquerading as mice.






At least that's how I think it went...

Kamog September 1st, 2004 02:18 AM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository
 
These new Graemlins are making me hungry... [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon30.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon31.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon32.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon33.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon34.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon35.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon36.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon37.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon38.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon39.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon05.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon04.gif[/img] http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image.../beerglass.gif

Perrin September 1st, 2004 02:14 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hijack T
 
http://www.frombearcreek.com/hijacked.jpg

Ragnarok September 1st, 2004 02:34 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
ROFL! That is a hilarious picture, Perrin. Did you find that on the web or did you create it yourself?

Kamog September 2nd, 2004 02:50 AM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
All right! We're going to Cuba! [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Acorn.gif[/img]
Is it nice there? [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Lightning.gif[/img]

Perrin September 2nd, 2004 11:41 AM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
Quote:
Ragnarok said:
ROFL! That is a hilarious picture, Perrin. Did you find that on the web or did you create it yourself?
I found it on the web in another set of forms that I frequent.

Will September 5th, 2004 08:12 AM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
I went to a midnight showing of Kevin Smith's Clerks. Then, when I came back, a few of my friends tried to hook me up with a girl at a party... but even after about six shots (enough to make me a little tipsy), it wasn't happening.

HIJACKED! (someone remind me not to post after consuming alcohol later)

David E. Gervais September 7th, 2004 02:09 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
Guess who's computer wouldn't boot this morning? Yup, mine. I had to format and reinstall win XP, again. I'm getting good at this, I sure hope this doesn't become habit forming. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Ragnarok September 7th, 2004 02:52 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
And of course you have backups of every file you have done, right? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Fyron September 7th, 2004 03:17 PM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
Quote:
David E. Gervais said:
Guess who's computer wouldn't boot this morning? Yup, mine. I had to format and reinstall win XP, again. I'm getting good at this, I sure hope this doesn't become habit forming. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Try upgrading to win2k. It is far more stable, due to not being overloaded with bloat and garbage...

Perrin September 10th, 2004 11:29 AM
Re: OOT: Thread Overflow Depository (AKA: The Hija
 
SP2 strikes again.


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