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Hmm, I don't see Atlantis "easily" taking land provinces. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif R'lyeh, maybe. I am not an expert R'lyeh player, but even since Dom 1, Atlantis has always been my favourite nation.

Anyway, I hope for a bloody battle. Maybe the underwater players ally to scourge the lands of those evil beasties. *hint, hint, nudge nudge* Who was playing Atlantis again? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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The HOF is still set to 10!? I thought wanted the big one, considering that there are even more than 10 pretenders around...

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and dont we need to finish voting on the map? it seems to me 2 were still tied.

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well, i think cainehill must have gotten me drunk Last night or something, since i vaguely remember agreeing to exchange the mighty and fearsome spiderfolk for some ragtag bunch of unwashed forest-hippies

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

so i'll try to figure out a pretender today and upload before tomorrow.

edit: i actually prefer the normal Karan, at least in the present situation. lake access is nice, but not especially troubling in my mind.

[ July 27, 2004, 17:47: Message edited by: archaeolept ]

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I also prefer "normal" Version. Otherwise, one of the water nations is likely to end up dead in the water (in the middle of the land)

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Since I know Karan's strategic layout much better on the normal Version, that's what I vote for, too.

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i too, vote for the normal Version.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not if we're playing Dry Karan, surely? Then they'll lose access to - six? - water provinces. Or worse, one of them will get dumped in an isolated landlocked lake, and end up scrabbling for a share of the land provinces instead.

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i vote for the normal Version

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I've changed the HOF to 15... I thought I had done that already, but I hadn't. Thanks for pointing this out!

I've kept the Karan map, because it is my impression that that one has more votes, but as you don't care to update the actual vote, I can't be sure without tedious counting. So, if anybody feels strongly about this, please do the counting for me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

We're missing 3 players currently --- because I will kick anonymous players before starting. I will start the game in 36 hours regardless of status... that should be plenty of time for anybody.

Maps:
(only the two runner-ups)
(lots of votes missing)
Karan: Karacan, Chazar, Tauren
Karan dry Version: Daynarr, Turms, Cainehill

Nations, crosschecked with server:

Vanheim: Mark the Merciful (not uploaded)
Marignon: rabelais (not uploaded)
Pangaea: wolfkinsov (uploaded)
Machaka: cainehill (uploaded)
R'lyeh: Karacan (uploaded)
Ermor: Cheezeninja (uploaded)
Man: archaeolept (uploaded)
Mictlan: Vicious Love (uploaded)
Abysia: Pickles (uploaded)
Caelum: Chazar (uploaded)
Tien chi: alexti (uploaded)
Pythium: Turms (uploaded, but anonymous)
Arco: esben (uploaded)
Jotunheim: KroolDeath (uploaded)
C'tis: liga (uploaded)
Ulm: Daynarr (uploaded)
Atlantis: Biteme (uploaded)

Uploaded:14
Uploaded by anonymous: 1
Not uploaded: 2
Free: 0

P.S: Thanks for uploading the Karan-dry! Making a copy is just the right way, yes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I don't mind the extra megabytes, and it makes tracking so much easier...

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Sorry for being one of the laggards.

I'll have a Pretender up by 8pm (BST) this evening.

Mark

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Update:

Maps:
(only the two runner-ups)
(lots of votes missing)
Karan: Karacan, Tauren
Karan dry Version: Daynarr, Turms, Cainehill, Chazar

Arent the inland-lakes marked as nostart-provinces to avoid a water-nation being screwed up right from the start?

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I'll just add a few off the votes below (yes, I should be working instead). Currently, the un-dry people have it... I've actually decided to cast my vote with the majority for no definitive reason.

Update:

Maps:
Karan (7): Karacan, Tauren, archaeolept, alexti, Cheezeninja, esben, The_Tauren13
Karan dry Version(4): Daynarr, Turms, Cainehill, Chazar

Arent the inland-lakes marked as nostart-provinces to avoid a water-nation being screwed up right from the start? [/QB][/quote]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not 100% sure about it but Last time when I tried to play Karan with water nation it placed me in lake surrounded by land only. Maybe it has been fixed now, but maybe someone could take a look (who has spare time) before we start, just in case.

[ July 28, 2004, 11:20: Message edited by: Daynarr ]

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my votes in there twice...

Maps:
Karan (7): Karacan, archaeolept, alexti, Cheezeninja, esben, The_Tauren13, Mark
Karan dry Version(5): Daynarr, Turms, Cainehill, Chazar, Liga

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Not to be oppositional, but I vote for the dry Version.

I think being protected from the overly serried land fray is more than enough advantage for the swimmers.

Rabe

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I'm not suggesting it be changed at this late date, but...

why do people like score graphs on?

Seems like it takes a lot out of the game, since pile-on is automatic, rather than learned, and then persuaded.


Rabe the Opaque http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[ July 28, 2004, 16:03: Message edited by: rabelais ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, probably most importantly - graphs can't be turned off with games on mosehansen; Illwinter hasn't given command line arguments to turn them off, iirc.

You're right though - in most games, if one nations gets too huge (twice or more as many provinces as the next largest), everyone seems to dogpile them, rapidly reducing them to the bottom of the pack.

Then again - how much of that is the graph, and how much is that the person over-expanded and never consolidated her gains?

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just waiting on vanheim to upload

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And Vanheim is in!

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Looks like we are ready to start. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

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Everything looking peachy. Esben, would you start the game? Thread title already (prophetically) changed accordingly.

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I have allowed client's (that's all of us http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) to start the game. Any of you can start it now; and I will when I get home sometime.. in less than 2 hours.

This should be very interesting http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Good luck, everyone!

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have started it! So I have time to make my turn before going home (I'm one of the peoples that are able to play at work but not at home!) ... good luck everyone!

Liga

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oh lord what a horrendous starting location http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

one land province to expand to, which seems itself adjacent to another capitol. After that, it is adjacent to only one other territory, which is adjacent to what looks like 3 capitols.

lol++

i think this mapfile could have done w/ a few more nostarts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

one of the water nations looks to be in big trouble too, so at least i'm not alone http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ July 29, 2004, 15:35: Message edited by: archaeolept ]

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well i guess those crowns aren't all capitols. but having provinces w/ only one land border not flagged as nostart is definitely sucky.

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What are the crowns, exactly.

We were talking about them in the thread for that other game you hosted for us (the one you didn't join).

Krool

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The crowns are victory points. Collect 12 to win the game :-D

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Heh, thanks.

Now that I've revealed my newbness, let the pouncing begin!

Krool

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What - you get your wish, and now you complain?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif It's a problem with many of the maps, imo (for instance, Aran is in desperate need of some official #nostarts, the MiddleEarth map is, etc), and only excerbated when you put 17 nations into a map that is really suited for fewer.

Having capitals as VPs just brings us back to another serious flaw, imo, which is that capitals should not show up as VPs. For that matter - VPs should need to be scouted, or at least a switch for it.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">oh lol, hoisted by my own petard http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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And we're off to a very fun start. The first turn is done. I prophetize early death to at least one waternation.

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Whoops, didn't realize I was holding turn 2 off for about a full day or so. Sorry, people. First time experiencing the miracle of quickhost. First proper multiplayer game, too.

At least the score graphs say I'm not the only nation still stuck with one province.

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Also, upon analyzing My First Diplomatic Missive, I appear to be channeling the Utwig from StarCon II. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No worries there. This is a dedicated slow game, after all, and I think you where still about 2000 minutes good to take a turn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Still, I wholeheartedly recommend bookmarking Esben's brilliant status site to see any games you need to take a turn. I know it's about the first thing I open when going Online. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Hi all,

my wife get some unexpected holidays so probably I'll have to move away from the net from 13-08 to 22-08 ... I have tryed to find someone who could take my place for this 5 turns in the circle of friend I used to play Dom2, but I was unlucky ... I'll play until 12-08 and after that, if I don't find anyone who could take my place for 9 days (just 4-6 turns) I'll have to revert to AI controlled.

I'm very sorry about that becouse I really like that slow game ... I hope to find someone before my left ... if some one of you have a frined interessed to play just 4-6 turns of C'tis, please, drop me an email at liga(AT)treemme(DOT)org

good play
Liga

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yep, mosehansen.dk is set as the home page in one of my 3 browsers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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is there a page in mosehansen site that tells you in which games you need yo take a turn ? or you have just to browser game by game ?

Liga

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yeah, just your welcome page will tell you (as long as it recognizes you). However, if there are no turns for you to do, nothing will show up.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Recommend you start a new thread ASAP, I doubt anyone who isn't in the game reads this one.

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Hello all, this game has started quite nice and has been keeping a very good pace. However, I have one concern.

Am I correct that only 12 victory points are needed to win and that there are 37 vps total on the map?

I fear that the game will end too soon. Was this intentional and can the victory conditions still be adjusted? I would think that at least something like 20+ victory points would be better...

Good luck to all my opponents http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Hmmm. Looks like two (more) LONG stales coming up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Anyone want to elect a tempsub and use the Master Password?


Rabe who appreciates liga's cold-blooded, but COME ON!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Well, noone wanted to jump in as a temporary replacement. :/

Apparently, though, we're going to have to wait for him to return. Which is too bad, since the game is getting into an interesting stage. Who's Pangaea again? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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I'm back! The Lizards again have a God! ... I have lost some time, but not too much ... I'm still in condition to enjoy playing that game and run for good positions!

good play!
Ligha'sss

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this games been so slow ive forgotten whats going on...

but hey, thats the point of the game; to be slow

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yah it did just go through something like rigor mortis.

but hallelujah, liga has come back, and now it should get back to it's sprightly 2 1/2 days routine ;-)


Oh, I would like to note for all concerned that I, Man, am resisting the mighty and oppressive t'ien chi. If there are any others who wish to throw off the cruel yoke of t'ien chi's evil queen, know that you have a steadfast friend in Man.

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Let's not all act surprised when the "*really* slow game" runs, well, really slowly.

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Yes ... I'm back to work (wher I have my main dom2 installation) ... so I could stratr to play again quickly!

Sorry all for the delay in this 10 days!

good play
Ligha'sss