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Lex September 1st, 2004 05:11 AM

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i'm registered..

Lepakko September 1st, 2004 07:45 AM

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Good could you tell your battlefield name.. so i can build list all player who have register name

Boron September 1st, 2004 08:04 AM

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Thufir said:
Boron,

Have you found a copy of 2.12 exe yet? If not, maybe I can send you one. If you've got time to play a turn or two between your busy posting schedule, I think we'll be waiting on you again here shortly.

Cheers http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Thufir

thnx meanwhile i got a old 2.12 exe but now i am waiting for confirmation that the cd-key is not stored in the exe otherwise i would have my friends key that would be dangerous http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

i played then yesterday with the new patch it works too.
i just wonder what the battle inconsitency is then .

deccan September 1st, 2004 10:02 AM

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Hey, new turn up. Lucky I checked before going to bed.

Galadin September 1st, 2004 12:08 PM

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I'm registered, as Galadin.

msew September 1st, 2004 01:50 PM

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any room for another?

Thufir September 1st, 2004 01:54 PM

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msew said:
any room for another?

Sorry this game is already up and running, so unless someone wants to drop out and take a sub, there' no way to add.

Edit: SO, does this mean, msew, that you are hooked on MP Dominions2?

Personally, I've been hoping to jump on to another game also - just waiting for one that doesn't say "experienced players" in the title.



msew September 1st, 2004 04:08 PM

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yup looking for another game too

deccan September 1st, 2004 06:40 PM

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msew said:
yup looking for another game too

Hehe. I'm possibly looking for a new game too, since my Pandemonium2 game isn't going too well. And this time we'll exclude Boron, being the expert player that he is. No offence, Boron. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

And I want a bigger map too!

deccan September 2nd, 2004 08:59 AM

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Turn 10 is up.

And I enjoyed the "Battle of the Danes" charts so much I'm going to do one here.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...0821-chart.JPG

Thufir September 2nd, 2004 03:56 PM

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deccan said:
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msew said:
yup looking for another game too

Hehe. I'm possibly looking for a new game too, since my Pandemonium2 game isn't going too well. And this time we'll exclude Boron, being the expert player that he is. No offence, Boron. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

And I want a bigger map too!

I wouldn't worry too much about Boron's expertise - the newbie's answer to the experienced player is diplomacy (i.e. just gang up on him! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif ).

I would love to play a 17 player game on Orania, although I think there's little hope of getting a noob game of that size going. One thing to watch out for though, the vetarans warned me before starting this game that games on big maps often bog down into massive MM, which is not necessarily the best way for a new player to learn/enjoy MP play in Dom2.

Thufir September 2nd, 2004 04:12 PM

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Lex,

Could you tell us your Battlefield ID? And, Boron, aren't you already registered on the Battlefield?

For everyone else that's not registered yet, it takes about 2 minutes, and it would be helpful for those of us that are interested in the ladder, here's the Battlefield URLs again:
http://www.the-battlefield.com
Battlefield Dom2 Page:
http://www.the-battlefield.com/index...&game=dom2
Battlefield Dom2 Forum:
http://www.the-battlefield.com/forum...p?showforum=27

Boron September 2nd, 2004 04:14 PM

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deccan said:
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msew said:
yup looking for another game too

Hehe. I'm possibly looking for a new game too, since my Pandemonium2 game isn't going too well. And this time we'll exclude Boron, being the expert player that he is. No offence, Boron. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

And I want a bigger map too!

uhm i recognized i still have much to learn . as it is i play mictlan in i think thufirs 2 games . i saw that my plans don't work in practice and my hate for mictlan is greater than i thought . i hate the terrible micro .

in this game i don't do too well as caelum too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

so i hope it was intended as a joke http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

as it is though expect hardslog all my games go rather bad atm .

Boron September 2nd, 2004 04:19 PM

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Thufir said:
I would love to play a 17 player game on Orania, although I think there's little hope of getting a noob game of that size going. One thing to watch out for though, the vetarans warned me before starting this game that games on big maps often bog down into massive MM, which is not necessarily the best way for a new player to learn/enjoy MP play in Dom2.

we start probably soon a new game too since our newbiegame 2 from aku seems to go to an end too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
so perhaps you could participate there too thufir http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
i guess 1-2 additional players don't hurt but make things even nicer there too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif


i personally like karan quite a lot for 10-12 players at which we should aim .

if i am not excluded in your new game i claim SG ermor for that one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
oh and i would like to play this with patch 2.13 cause i like the burning pearl nerf http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Boron September 2nd, 2004 04:22 PM

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only mictlan to go but still 18 hours left .
so go yellow cactus take your turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Thufir September 2nd, 2004 04:38 PM

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Boron said:
we start probably soon a new game too since our newbiegame 2 from aku seems to go to an end too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
so perhaps you could participate there too thufir http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
i guess 1-2 additional players don't hurt but make things even nicer there too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif


That sounds good!

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i personally like karan quite a lot for 10-12 players at which we should aim .


Really?? Maybe it's just my experience, but I think Karan maxes out at 8. In my first MP game, I really got really got screwed big time with my starting position in Karan with 10 players. If you want to have a crowded map, I think Inland is a better choice, mainly since it's dual wraparound, but also because it's relatively open.


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if i am not excluded in your new game i claim SG ermor for that one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
oh and i would like to play this with patch 2.13 cause i like the burning pearl nerf http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Well, I'm hoping not to be the one to start up this new game. For a newbie, I've started plenty of games already http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif If we're talking about a replacement for Aku's newbie game, perhaps Aku could be prevailed upon to start this hypothetical game we are discussing?

Boron September 2nd, 2004 04:48 PM

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Thufir said:
Really?? Maybe it's just my experience, but I think Karan maxes out at 8. In my first MP game, I really got really got screwed big time with my starting position in Karan with 10 players. If you want to have a crowded map, I think Inland is a better choice, mainly since it's dual wraparound, but also because it's relatively open.


oh karan has "only" 162 provinces so you are right i always thought it has 220 or like this .

i enjoy my 2 karangames so far though both were with i think 10 players but in both i were quite lucky with placement .

i personally just enjoy nonwraparound maps a little bit more than wraparoundmaps i think http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
for 15+ players the new smaller faerun would be an alternative too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

a cradle vaariation could be good too , 220 provinces about .
hm there is really a small lack in maps with 200-250 provinces for 10-14 player games http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

YellowCactus September 2nd, 2004 05:28 PM

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Silly Boron....
You know where I'm at! And today we're hosting the 'Middle School Volleyball Competition'. Once I'm home, I'll take my turn. It's tough managing TWO provinces! But with ambition and drive....some turn soon I'll have THREE provinces.
-Yc

Thufir September 2nd, 2004 05:42 PM

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deccan said:
Turn 10 is up.

And I enjoyed the "Battle of the Danes" charts so much I'm going to do one here.


That Battle of the Danes thread was excellent - the annotated screen grabs of battles were particularly entertaining. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

As for our game, thank you Deccan for pointing out the obvious http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif If you all don't get off your duffs pretty soon, the Moloch will rule the world! Actually, the key to my expansion is not the fact that I've lost the imps, but rather that luck-draining ability that Graeme added in his mod (did I forget to mention that before we started?). This of course explains the absolutely horrid luck experienced by Boron and Deccan with their early lab explosions.

But anyhow - what's going on in this game - I've never seen such a slow expansion! I understand two players lost their labs, but even so, I'd guess that should cost no more than one turn in expansion rate. Boron, you've probably seen more MP than I have, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that one of the things that veterans are able to do consistently is to put together an indy-crushing army from anywhere from turn 3-4, or maybe turn 5 at the latest. Then, if they've got an SC pretender, they can occasionaly get 2 provinces per turn.

Boron September 2nd, 2004 07:45 PM

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Thufir said:
But anyhow - what's going on in this game - I've never seen such a slow expansion! I understand two players lost their labs, but even so, I'd guess that should cost no more than one turn in expansion rate. Boron, you've probably seen more MP than I have, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that one of the things that veterans are able to do consistently is to put together an indy-crushing army from anywhere from turn 3-4, or maybe turn 5 at the latest. Then, if they've got an SC pretender, they can occasionaly get 2 provinces per turn.

uhm if it happens on turn 3 and you have to save your money for the damn lab it declares the slow expansion rate .
IF your sc pretender searches the province he gets 1 province per 2 turns .

i took a very experimental pretenderdesign so i have little money for an expansion army . if i hadn't had my labblow i had now 1 province more but it doesn't matter really since i just didn't plan to even grab a province with troops i will though hopefully make up for it later by a keymagic http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
and taking away provinces from a neighbor has some appeal too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

iirc we have indies 9 there expansion without sc is not sooo easy . you are doing great though with your abysia http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

oh btw i found out that protection 15 is not enough against knights lance attacks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

deccan September 2nd, 2004 08:32 PM

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Thufir said:
I would love to play a 17 player game on Orania, although I think there's little hope of getting a noob game of that size going.

Well, I'm already in Musical Chairs which is a big game using the Orania map, so I wouldn't want to be in another. What I'm thinking is something more similar to what the "Battle of the Danes" people are doing, with say, four players or so with another 3 or 4 AI players set to Impossible on a map like Karan.

I think that a big turn-off for newbies starting in MP is how cut-throat the human competition can be. With a set up like the above, it's more of an SP game, with the added incentive to do better because other human players are involved.

deccan September 2nd, 2004 08:35 PM

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Boron said:
and taking away provinces from a neighbor has some appeal too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


I knew it! You evil, evil man! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image.../firedevil.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Lex September 3rd, 2004 12:11 AM

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my battlefield ID is LEXLUTHER

and what's "luck-draining"?!?!? what specific effect does it have?

and why does it increase your expansion?

deccan September 3rd, 2004 12:39 AM

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Lex said:
my battlefield ID is LEXLUTHER

and what's "luck-draining"?!?!? what specific effect does it have?

and why does it increase your expansion?

It's a joke, lex, at Boron's and my expense. Relax.

Thufir September 3rd, 2004 12:42 AM

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Lex said:
my battlefield ID is LEXLUTHER


Thanks!

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and what's "luck-draining"?!?!? what specific effect does it have?

and why does it increase your expansion?

There's no such thing as "luck-draining". I just thought it was rather perverse that I got as lucky as I did (it's a long story, but my start position was pretty sweet), despite having misfortune 1, while Boron and Deccan, both having L3, got the infamous exploding lab screw-over (I'd vote for a rule change that prevented that happening before turn 5, for any nation with Luck scale >= 0).

Anyhow, what goes around comes around, and YellowCactus has seen fit to do some luck draining of his own - we'll have to see how that works out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

deccan September 3rd, 2004 05:30 AM

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Thufir said:
Anyhow, what goes around comes around, and YellowCactus has seen fit to do some luck draining of his own - we'll have to see how that works out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Ah, so YellowCactus was the one who attacked you. I was wondering.

deccan September 3rd, 2004 05:35 AM

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Thufir said:
(I'd vote for a rule change that prevented that happening before turn 5, for any nation with Luck scale >= 0).


That's nice of you but then you'd want to prevent all sorts of other things as well, such as having one fourth of your population drown in the first few turns. Randomness is just part of the game.

Thufir September 3rd, 2004 01:23 PM

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Just Boron left to post his turn.

Thufir September 3rd, 2004 01:28 PM

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deccan said:
That's nice of you but then you'd want to prevent all sorts of other things as well, such as having one fourth of your population drown in the first few turns. Randomness is just part of the game.

Well, it's not niceness on my part so much as an interest in a balanced game (which Dom2 by and large does very well). Putting in this exception does make it a special case, and that in fact raises a red flag that maybe doing so would imbalance things, exactly the opposite effect of what one would want. However, it does seem that the lost lab/temple in opening turns is a particularly heinous event.

Aku September 3rd, 2004 07:20 PM

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turn 13 is up

deccan September 4th, 2004 07:32 AM

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Turn 14 now.

Boron September 4th, 2004 05:29 PM

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new turn up .

deccan September 4th, 2004 09:01 PM

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It's cool how fast this game is going, compared to Pandemonium. I guess you just need to have the right mix of players.

Boron September 4th, 2004 09:08 PM

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deccan said:
It's cool how fast this game is going, compared to Pandemonium. I guess you just need to have the right mix of players.

yeah http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

posting always new turn here on the forum helps too i think and xxx is the Last even more http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

especially when a fast turn occurs that you don't expect it and don't check mosehansen game status then this is really helpful .

in newbiegame 2 though we didn't play on mosehansen but on klatus server http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif we were very quick with always posting xxx is Last or new turn up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



Aku September 5th, 2004 02:08 AM

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turn 16 is up

deccan September 5th, 2004 02:55 AM

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Aku said:
turn 16 is up

That was FAST! Let's do that again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Lepakko September 5th, 2004 09:30 AM

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How many player has all ready Register in www.the-Battlefield.com ?


Register

Lepakko
Thufir
deccan
Galadin
Lexluther
Aku
Boron

deccan September 5th, 2004 10:48 AM

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Hmm, is Sheap's server down?

Thufir September 5th, 2004 11:53 AM

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deccan said:
Hmm, is Sheap's server down?

No - try again. I got in just fine, a few minutes ago. I have (and others have reported), where many times in a row I've locked up on trying to connect. If that happens, I just shut down the app, and try again, repeatedly. So far it's always worked (eventually). I see this more often on mosehansen than Sheap's server, but I have seen it here, as well.

Aku September 5th, 2004 02:33 PM

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hmm i need to register still, ill do it when i get home from work

Lex September 5th, 2004 04:29 PM

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only mictlan left for this turn

Aku September 5th, 2004 11:30 PM

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turn 17 is up

Thufir September 6th, 2004 02:00 PM

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Aku said:
hmm i need to register still, ill do it when i get home from work

Thanks Aku, are you registered yet? If so, I need your ID.

Thufir September 6th, 2004 02:00 PM

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Turn 18 posted

Aku September 6th, 2004 03:07 PM

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ok i registered on the battlefield site

I made my log in name as Aku is that the same as my battlefield ID? If not then how do I get it?

Thufir September 6th, 2004 03:09 PM

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Aku said:
ok i registered on the battlefield site

I made my log in name as Aku is that the same as my battlefield ID? If not then how do I get it?

Same thing - you're good. Thanks, Aku!

deccan September 7th, 2004 12:45 AM

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New turn up. I forgot what number it was. Can't check right now.

Aku September 7th, 2004 12:55 AM

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turn 19

Lepakko September 7th, 2004 06:36 AM

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Aku said:
ok i registered on the battlefield site

I made my log in name as Aku is that the same as my battlefield ID? If not then how do I get it?

Yep your Battlefield ID is Aku

Boron September 7th, 2004 08:59 AM

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only ctis to go


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