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Suicide Junkie January 25th, 2005 03:24 AM

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Atrocities said:
I recall reading a review or two that said that Riddic was the best sci-fi movie since the original Star Wars, and well, it was not.

I will reserve judgement on any movie now knowning what I know now about shaddy advertising and bought off reviews. (My fingers are crossed though - but they were also crossed for wing commander and starship troops..... and again we know how those turned out.)

You mean you didn't know that advertising is all "lies, damned lies and statistics" already??

ZeroAdunn January 25th, 2005 04:49 AM

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You know, I thoroughly enjoyed riddick. It took all these sci fi cliches (old and new) and rolled them into one batch of gimmickee goodness. I mean, the names alone drew me in, The Necromongers, The Furians, Etc... I mean, come on, how can you not love this stuff.

Makinus January 25th, 2005 07:42 AM

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Riddick is cool, but you can see that it was inspired in the Dune mini-series... (not the sons of dune, or the original Dune movie, but the Dune miniseries... i found it on DVD some time ago and bought it and it is a faithful rendition of the first Dune book from Frank Herbert)

Atrocities January 25th, 2005 09:49 AM

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Oh don't get me wrong, Riddick was a great sequal to Pitch Black which was one of the most under rated movies of year. I remember posting here about Pitch Black and recommending it to people. Riddick was a great departure from the norm and that alone made it worth seeing. However the story was convoluted and seemed more toward a video game than an actual attempt at movie making. Basically it made you take a huge leap of faith from the universe set up by pitch black to the one they showed in Riddick. In essence, the two movies are as differant from each other as Star Wars is from Ground Hog Day. The only simularity are the characters and the desire to create a franchise for Vin. (I like Vin, I think he is one of the better action / drama / talented actors to come down the pipe in many years.)

Riddick was a very stylish movie, but IMHO definatly not better than Star Wars, but worlds better than PM or AOTC.

And no, no plans for any Stargate ship sets. Although they should have made a FPS adventure game based on the series years ago. The one they have planned now is a day late and two dollars short.

David E. Gervais January 25th, 2005 11:30 AM

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I saw a preview of the new BSG series and it looks like Richard Hatch will be joining the cast, cool! Maybe I'll start watching it now. (Who's next? Dirk Bennedict? after all I haven't seen him since he did the A-Team, he must still be around.)

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

geoschmo January 25th, 2005 11:44 AM

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David E. Gervais said:
I saw a preview of the new BSG series and it looks like Richard Hatch will be joining the cast, cool! Maybe I'll start watching it now. (Who's next? Dirk Bennedict? after all I haven't seen him since he did the A-Team, he must still be around.)

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

You know David, if you didn't spend all your time in those silly post padding threads you'd have already known about Hatch's reocurring guest role when we discussed it here a couple weeks ago. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Atrocities January 25th, 2005 05:57 PM

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Episode 13 - Simply excellent. The series is getting better and better. The ending was - TOTALY UNEXPECTED.

Nodachi January 25th, 2005 06:09 PM

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Tell me about it! It's driving me crazy that it's the last episode of the season.

Atrocities January 25th, 2005 06:45 PM

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I tell you, I expected the "P" issue back on Capraca, but not what happened at the end. When that went down, it cought me off gaurd and that VERY rarely happens. The episode was very well done. It kept my intrest the entire time and that very rarely happens as well.

If this episode is any indication on what we can expect in season two, then, we have a hit folks.

Nodachi January 25th, 2005 06:51 PM

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From what I understand, SciFi has already ordered eight more episodes. Let's hope that they get good ratings here in the states so they'll order more!

Atrocities January 25th, 2005 06:56 PM

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Yes let us hope so. I mean it, this series has a lot of potential if given a chance.

David E. Gervais January 25th, 2005 07:29 PM

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geoschmo said:
You know David, if you didn't spend all your time in those silly post padding threads you'd have already known about Hatch's reocurring guest role when we discussed it here a couple weeks ago. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

What?.. post padding thread? I'm innocent I say, it's not a silly thread, it's the foundation for the new cantina... wait a sec, the cantina is going to be a silly post-padding thread when it opens, so I guess your right, and it looks like we're off to a great start if even you think it's silly. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

But it's a happy thread, really, it is.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

gregebowman January 25th, 2005 11:35 PM

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David E. Gervais said:
I saw a preview of the new BSG series and it looks like Richard Hatch will be joining the cast, cool! Maybe I'll start watching it now. (Who's next? Dirk Bennedict? after all I haven't seen him since he did the A-Team, he must still be around.)

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I don't know if you saw the BSG Lowdown special, but Dirk was in it, and he didn't look in too good of a shape. I don't know if he has any health issues, but he sure did look sickly in that special. He's no longer The Face, that's for sure. Hopefully in the year or so since that was filmed, he has fared better and looks better.

As far as Richard Hatch, I know someone mentioned that he would appear in the series, but I didn't know when. When I saw the episode the other day, I was wondering why they were giving that terrorist leader such a close-up. I didn't recognize him at first. True, it's been 27 years since BSG's been out, but I just couldn't see the old Apollo in that face. Hopefully we'll see him from time to time during the length of the show.

AT, I still don't know what kind of satellite hook-up you have, but I sure wish I had it. So far in the states, they've only shown 3 episodes, and here you go seeing all 13. Don't give out any spoilers, though, as I want to be surprised as you were. Hopefully we won't have to wait a year after the season is over for the dvd to come out.

Randallw January 26th, 2005 12:08 AM

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I don't know if you saw the BSG Lowdown special, but Dirk was in it, and he didn't look in too good of a shape. I don't know if he has any health issues, but he sure did look sickly in that special. He's no longer The Face, that's for sure. Hopefully in the year or so since that was filmed, he has fared better and looks better.


Dirk Benedict probably looks terrible (I don't know for certain as I haven't seen a picture of him for years, except a b-grade tv movie once) because he uses a special diet. I can't say for certain that it is the same one, but he follows one of those diets like eating nothing and only drinking water for 3 weeks. He once had colon cancer and he swears the special diet got rid of it.

Atrocities January 26th, 2005 10:53 AM

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Actually he still looks like Dirk. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif A bit older, but still like Dirk. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I do hope they find a guest spot for him. Perhas as the Lead cyclon design, Cyclon human model 001. Oh that would be a real gas.

sachmo January 26th, 2005 11:28 AM

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Atrocities said:
Actually he still looks like Dirk. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif A bit older, but still like Dirk. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I do hope they find a guest spot for him. Perhas as the Lead cyclon design, Cyclon human model 001. Oh that would be a real gas.

I agree. He looks very much as he did when he was younger.

Azselendor January 26th, 2005 02:04 PM

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Dirk did a lot of promo work for the new BSG and appeared in the making-of special scifi had for the miniseries. He's aged a lot better than Hatch.

gregebowman February 2nd, 2005 12:25 AM

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Dirk did a lot of promo work for the new BSG and appeared in the making-of special scifi had for the miniseries. He's aged a lot better than Hatch.

I must have watched a different making-of special, because the one I saw Dirk didn't look like Dirk. Of the two, I say Hatch looked better, although he looks more rugged.

I'm liking this show. It's more realistic and military oriented than the original. Also, it keeps you in suspense. and the religious overtures are missing. The only thing I can't figure out right now is why they're keeping "Helo" alive. Is it just for experimental purposes, or is something more sinister afoot? Maybe they're observing him so they can make another Cylon model. Can't wait to find out.

tesco samoa February 5th, 2005 05:56 PM

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i like the religious overtones on the story.

narf poit chez BOOM February 5th, 2005 09:13 PM

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Yeah, otherwise you've just got a bunch of people on some ships.

Caduceus February 5th, 2005 10:54 PM

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Latest episode - "You Can't Go Home Again" was another good episode, I thought. I liked Adama and Apollo's moment at the end - "We'd never leave."

Quite good. And the continuing military/political turf war is great.

Captain Kwok February 6th, 2005 09:59 PM

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I've watched the last few episodes, and it's been decent overall with some good ship scenes. However I can't seem to shake the feeling of Starship Troopers when it comes to the various pilots' storylines etc.

geoschmo February 7th, 2005 12:01 PM

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Other than the fact that everybodies hometowns got obliterated, I see absolutly no common themes with Starship Troopers. What are you refering to?

Captain Kwok February 7th, 2005 03:18 PM

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Not that there backstories are the same, but the way they look and act etc.

Starhawk February 7th, 2005 03:56 PM

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Hey I have a question, if the Viper MK2 is just as good as the Viper Mk 7 why retire the Mark 2? Because from what we've seen the Mk7 is and MK2 are roughly equal in taking on Cylon Fighters.

Oh and is Apollo's Mk7 the last one left on Galactica? Because to be honest I LOVE the mk 7 design.

P.S> Please no spoilers, as I'm in the states we just got "You Can't Go Home Again."

geoschmo February 7th, 2005 05:16 PM

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My impression from the miniseries was that the Viper VII was faster and more manuverable. So that would explain why they were replacing the Mark II's. Much of the increased performance was computer aided, which turned out to be a huge weakness when the Cylons launched their cyber attack. The surviving Mark VII's on Galactica have been retrofitted to manual controls, which explains why the Mark II's seem to do as well as the Mark VII's in combat now.

Makinus February 7th, 2005 05:51 PM

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one thing i would wish to know: the MK 7 were disabled by the cylons because of the heavy use of computeers in them or because the software in the computers was holed?

As we see in the miniseries, Dr. Baltar programmed all the computers used by the military, and Six inserted a lot of backdoors in the programs, so if the reason the Cylons disabled the Mk7 was because of the backdoors, maybe they can be still used if someone re-programmed the computers...

bearclaw February 7th, 2005 11:12 PM

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I seem to recall seeing some Mk 7's during some of the larger fight scenes. I seem to recall from somewhere in one of the episodes that they had retro-retrofitted the remaining Mk 7's so that the cylons couldn't interfere, but the reason there are so many Mk 2's is because Galactica was to become a museum ship and had all remaining Mk 2's transfered to it from the other Battlestars.

Azselendor February 8th, 2005 01:57 AM

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It's also why they never launch from the other side of the ship.

gregebowman February 8th, 2005 08:49 AM

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I think you guys are clearing up my confusion. with the Mark VII's out of action in the mini-series, Adama recalled having about 30 mark II's in the museum part of the ship. Now, last week, Apollo commented he had about 40 ships and only 20+ pilots to man them. Now, unless the chief could scratch build 10 extra ships out of thin air, I was wondering where those extra ships came from. Also, I haven't counted, but with the few scrapes they've had with the Cylons, they must have lost at least 5-6 of the Mark II's. HOw is the Galactica going to defend itself and the fleet with only a limited amount of fighters? Adama doesn't seem too concerned over this issue now, but eventually it's going to become a concern. Especially if they can't make any more fighters. Maybe there's a manafacturing ship of some sort in the fleet that can be converted to produce more, but as was mentioned in this last issue, they're running out of fuel for the ships also. Maybe they can find a source of fuel like they did water.

Azselendor February 8th, 2005 11:48 AM

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Hopefully SciFi makes an annoucement soon and renews Galactica for a full second season. I'm honstly really surprised that galactica had a 13-episode commitment to begin with, that's pretty impressive.

geoschmo February 8th, 2005 12:06 PM

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I got the impression that fuel was something that they could replenish given some amount of time, either by creating it from raw materials or collecting it from a planet maybe? The mentioned using half their fuel supply looking for Starbuck in the last episode. If that was half of the total fuel they'd ever have available to them, then the search was incompetance on a galactic scale. Something well worthy of Adama losing his command over immedietly.

On the other hand if the fuel reserve was something they could replenish in time then all he was doing was taking a chance that they'd get found and attacked by Cylons before they could build up their combat reserves again. A dangerous and risky decision, but not an insane one. That seemed to be how they were treating it.

Makinus February 8th, 2005 01:10 PM

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VERY MINOR SPOILER:











To replenish the fuel they need to extract it from a planet/asteroid/etc with the fuel in it.

Looks like the fuel is something like a radioactive ore that needs to be mined and refined to be used...

tesco samoa February 8th, 2005 02:20 PM

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hey how about a new rule of spoilers

<font color="#B7AE9F">write it in the colour of the forums which is &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; color:#B7AE9F </font>

tesco samoa February 8th, 2005 02:26 PM

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if you want to read my spoiler highlight my last post

tesco samoa February 8th, 2005 02:29 PM

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Spoiler ******


<font color="#B7AE9F ">I cannot remeber. Did Helo ( or what ever he is called ** Dude on the planet kill the blond woman ?? I cannot remember. </font>

Captain Kwok February 8th, 2005 02:32 PM

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Umm, that appears to be displayed as some form of yellow, which is still visible...

narf poit chez BOOM February 8th, 2005 04:54 PM

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Doesn't show up as the forum color to me. (Well, it wouldn't make any sense to say it shows up as the forum color, because it doesn't - show up, that is) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

ZeroAdunn February 8th, 2005 05:57 PM

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In regards to galacticas shortness of vipers &amp; pilots:

I am willing to bet sometime next season they will do a remake of "The Living Legend"

The episode involved galactica meeting up with another battlestar, the pegasus, and engaging two basestars. Basicly, by the end of the episode (a two parter) Galactica had just about all of pegusus' fighters transferred and it looked like pegasus was destroyed.

The episode was one of the best of the originall series and if translated well could produce a powerfull couple of episodes.

gregebowman February 8th, 2005 11:07 PM

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Yeah, but who would play Commander Kain? Lloyd Bridges died a long time ago, and even if Jeff Bridges was interested, he doesn't have the bombastic personality that Lloyd seemed to have in most of his roles. Who do you think would make a good Kain? I've been thinking about this for awhile, and I still don't have a clue as to who would make a good Kain. Since everything else in the new show has been revamped, modified or modernized, I suppose that means Kain doesn't have to have the same personality. But I still can't think who would make a good Kain right now. It will interesting to see who gets cast in the role.

Starhawk February 9th, 2005 12:30 AM

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Possibly a woman the way things were revamped http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

But seriously Kain was cool with the personality he had, sure it got his whole crew killed and cost the fleet a second battlestar to protect them And SURE his battlestar combined with the power of Galactica could probobly have allowed them to establish a MUCH better defensive position against any future cylon attacks, but his bombastic who cares attitude was still neet. (end sarcasm)

narf poit chez BOOM February 9th, 2005 01:06 AM

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I might point out that his sacrific is the only thing that allowed the survival of the galactica.

geoschmo February 9th, 2005 01:15 AM

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If I recall corectly his sacrifice only was neccesary because his arrogance put them in a bad situation in the first place. Adama wanted to be safe and keep running but Cain talked him into attacking. Except that the baseship they were attacking turned out to be two baseships and they almost lost both battlestars. At least that's how I remember it.

Captain Kwok February 9th, 2005 01:23 AM

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Richard Hatch is getting a guest starring role. From the sounds of the chacater it might be a reoccuring role.

Perhaps it might be recurring if he doesn't go to jail for tax evasion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

narf poit chez BOOM February 9th, 2005 02:01 AM

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Geo: Actually, now that you mention it, I think your right.

Makinus February 9th, 2005 07:31 AM

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sorry about the spoiler thing...

Makinus February 9th, 2005 07:32 AM

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hey, my 200th post!

Azselendor February 9th, 2005 05:41 PM

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I believe Jeff Bridges or Beau Bridges is gonna be on Stargate as a regular in season 9. I'm not sure if they'll go that route or not. Perhaps Dirk?

Atrocities February 10th, 2005 02:06 AM

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gregebowman said:
Yeah, but who would play Commander Kain? Lloyd Bridges died a long time ago, and even if Jeff Bridges was interested, he doesn't have the bombastic personality that Lloyd seemed to have in most of his roles. Who do you think would make a good Kain? I've been thinking about this for awhile, and I still don't have a clue as to who would make a good Kain. Since everything else in the new show has been revamped, modified or modernized, I suppose that means Kain doesn't have to have the same personality. But I still can't think who would make a good Kain right now. It will interesting to see who gets cast in the role.

Rumor has it that there is going to be a cameo by Dirk Benidict where he plays as the legendary Commander Kain. DO NOT HOLD YOUR BREATH.

Caduceus February 19th, 2005 02:11 PM

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"Six Degrees" - another fine episode. I can't believe how tense and uncomfortable a well-written/tight episode can be. Not to mention that characters TAKE TIME TO HEAL!


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