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DeadZone March 6th, 2005 06:59 PM

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Atrocities said:
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Atrocities said:
SE V is a top secret project! The very fact that YOU know about it is a serious breech in security!

And the Fact that you know it is a serious breach of security and it is a Top Secret Project means that you are on the inside of the SEV project, and are therefore a target for all rabid SEIV Fans who eagerly await news http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Don't you be making me have to call the Malfador Secret Police on you!

Nah, I'm too tired from the last 50 people you told us to go after, call someone else

Fyron March 6th, 2005 07:13 PM

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Where did the infinitely useful "Mark All Read" link in the control panel thingie at the top of the main forum view go?

Ah, it is nice to see it back in action. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

DarkAnt March 6th, 2005 07:15 PM

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CovertJaguar, I don't want to get rid of the bar. I just want to move it to the right side. How do I do this?

CovertJaguar March 6th, 2005 11:37 PM

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DarkAnt said:
CovertJaguar, I don't want to get rid of the bar. I just want to move it to the right side. How do I do this?

It can probably be done, but someone with more knowledge of html than I will have to do it.

Nodachi March 7th, 2005 02:28 AM

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Damn! You know, for what I pay to use this forum they really ought to... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


Lighten up folks, it's not that bad. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Slick March 7th, 2005 03:24 AM

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Nodachi said:
Damn! You know, for what I pay to use this forum they really ought to... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


Lighten up folks, it's not that bad. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

my thoughts exactly.

Renegade 13 March 7th, 2005 03:37 AM

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Hehe am I the only one who remembers how all the other forum changes over time have been met by outrage, then gradual acceptance? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif Pattern seems to be emerging.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

luke_slovakian March 7th, 2005 04:56 AM

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I liked the old way better...but if they need the new banner and stuff it should be on top and/or bottom because this way it makes it annoying because everything is thinner and ja it suxs

narf poit chez BOOM March 7th, 2005 06:27 AM

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Oh, if you don't like it, just make a thread on how to block it.

I have to admit I'm finding it annoying, but come on - It's not the end of the world.

David E. Gervais March 7th, 2005 08:30 AM

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This new format is fine, but it does need a tiny tweak.. the column width for the press release needs to be about 6-8 pixels wider. Why? because the right edge of the graphic background is being cropped. (and yes I find a cropped pic to be much more annoying than hanving the column there.)

Oh, and no pressure, but it would be at least nice to see how my background pic looks in action, but that choice is entirely up to you. (the bugler one is the one I would go with, it makes sense since these are 'announcements of sorts.)

Keep up the fantastic work, Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

EDIT: I just did a mock-up and the column only needs 4 extra pixels in width. (see attached sample)

tesco samoa March 7th, 2005 01:22 PM

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i love the new shrapnel games on the blue. Very Nice. As for the new site... looks good. Would be cool if you could move the stuff around http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Mind you I have not really been here lately as much as would like.

NullAshton March 7th, 2005 01:41 PM

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Idea... Why don't these headlines be a scroller across the top of the screen?

geoschmo March 7th, 2005 03:00 PM

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You know, I must say I'm starting to come around on this left menu thing. I don't know if it's because it has David's Bugler pic now, or if it's just a matter of time and getting used to it, but it's starting to look much more natural to me. When I compare this to other websites I visit a lot, espn, cnn, etc, the left menu idea and having a common look accross all pages of a site are fairly common. Heck, for that matter, we do it on PBW, and take up a lot more space then this does. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

If we must have the left menu though, let's go all out and put more nav buttons on it. If there were more nav buttons I think that peoples first impression of it wouldn't be that it's just more "ad" space. What about all the nav buttons from the left menu on the home page? Buttons to take me to the various game pages? How about buttons to take me to different game forums within the bulliten board here? If I could navigate the entire Shrapnel site from the left menu without having to go back to the home page at all that would be fairly useful, and quite cool actually. And you could still have your press releases in the left column under the links like they are now, they'd just be a bit farther down because there would be more links.




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NullAshton said:
Idea... Why don't these headlines be a scroller across the top of the screen?

Yeah, that's been mentioned a couple of times in this thread already.

Fyron March 7th, 2005 03:38 PM

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The new image for the press releases is far easier on the eyes. Thanks!

NullAshton March 7th, 2005 03:45 PM

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I didn't read all 8 pages, sorry.

Strategia_In_Ultima March 7th, 2005 03:51 PM

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Looks VERY good, David. Much easier on the eyes. Must admit I'm getting used to it already.

Annette March 7th, 2005 03:58 PM

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Looks VERY good, David. Much easier on the eyes. Must admit I'm getting used to it already.

I also like the graphic, David. Thanks much for sharing it with us. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Caduceus March 7th, 2005 04:00 PM

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Much improved color. At least it recedes into the background when I load the page http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Mindi March 7th, 2005 04:04 PM

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geoschmo said:
You know, I must say I'm starting to come around on this left menu thing. I don't know if it's because it has David's Bugler pic now, or if it's just a matter of time and getting used to it, but it's starting to look much more natural to me. When I compare this to other websites I visit a lot, espn, cnn, etc, the left menu idea and having a common look accross all pages of a site are fairly common. Heck, for that matter, we do it on PBW, and take up a lot more space then this does. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Thanks for this. We are trying to make our sites more uniform and consistent with one another. There will be changes to the blog as well in the future to acheive this common goal. And thanks to David for the pic!

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If we must have the left menu though, let's go all out and put more nav buttons on it. If there were more nav buttons I think that peoples first impression of it wouldn't be that it's just more "ad" space. What about all the nav buttons from the left menu on the home page? Buttons to take me to the various game pages? How about buttons to take me to different game forums within the bulliten board here? If I could navigate the entire Shrapnel site from the left menu without having to go back to the home page at all that would be fairly useful, and quite cool actually.

Actually that was exactly what was in the original template plan; however, we determined that the navigation on the front of the site is much wider and would take too much width away from the forum. When we decided to go down to one row of buttons, we at first put up some of the buttons we felt were most needed from previous feedback. Since then we have added a button that goes to the game pages, as well as the one to sign up for the newsletter. There will probably be more navigation added in the future.

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NullAshton said:
Idea... Why don't these headlines be a scroller across the top of the screen?

Yeah, that's been mentioned a couple of times in this thread already.

That's not going to happen, because for everyone who doesn't like bars on sites, there will be just as many if not more that don't like seing something that is animated (scrolling, blinking, whatever).

David E. Gervais March 7th, 2005 04:54 PM

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Wow! I feel almost famous. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif I'm glad you like my background pic, and the pleasure was all mine. Thanks for using it.

Note: The column width is still short by 3-4 pixels, the right-hand drop shadow is missing on the graphic. (I'm not trying to be picky, just pointing out a very miner bug.)

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

AMF March 7th, 2005 04:56 PM

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heck, I'm fine with it EXCEPT....does anyone know how I can stop the "center-justifying" on the posts' text? I much prefer the old left-justification...

Rathar March 7th, 2005 05:04 PM

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Looks nice to me. Especially like the change from the blue to the tan.

Suicide Junkie March 7th, 2005 05:07 PM

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The tan is definitely far superior.

Will the backgrounds be mixed up to match the subjects, or is the common picture system going to stay?

Aiken March 7th, 2005 05:17 PM

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alarikf said:
heck, I'm fine with it EXCEPT....does anyone know how I can stop the "center-justifying" on the posts' text? I much prefer the old left-justification...

My condolences. Do you use Opera too? I've sent PM to Richard about this anomaly.

AMF March 7th, 2005 05:18 PM

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Ahhh...I seee.....yes, I use Opera....I guess that explains it....


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heck, I'm fine with it EXCEPT....does anyone know how I can stop the "center-justifying" on the posts' text? I much prefer the old left-justification...

My condolences. Do you use Opera too? I've sent PM to Richard about this anomaly.


Richard March 7th, 2005 05:22 PM

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Yeah I'll check it out in Opera shortly. I got the Mozilla based browsers and IE dring the test but I don't have Opera installed currently. I'll rectify that.

Strategia_In_Ultima March 7th, 2005 05:35 PM

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One more thing tho..... the top banner ad is now a "one-way" animation, in that it has an abrupt end... after which it simply starts all over again. This is REALLY irritating. Seeing a banner ad change gradually and then jump back instantly gets on your nerves after some time.....

Strategia_In_Ultima March 7th, 2005 05:50 PM

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Ermmm..... this isn't supposed to be happening, right?

Mindi March 7th, 2005 06:12 PM

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That should no longer be happening. Try closing your browser windows and then coming back to the forum. Richard changed the bar slightly to fix David's problem and you probably saw that in the middle of when he made the changes.

narf poit chez BOOM March 7th, 2005 06:31 PM

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NullAshton said:
I didn't read all 8 pages, sorry.

Neither did I. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Suicide Junkie March 7th, 2005 06:43 PM

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I didn't read all 8 pages, sorry.

Neither did I. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Go into "My Home" and edit your user preferences to show more posts per page.
99 is the max http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Poof, only 5 pages now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Renegade 13 March 7th, 2005 09:58 PM

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Heh, but on dial-up it seems to take one hell of a long time to load 99 posts per page, even though it's probably under a minute, especially since most pages you're just looking at the latest couple of posts (if you visit the forums as often as I.)

EDIT: Now there's a loooooong sentence http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Gotta be some gramatical errors in that!

NullAshton March 7th, 2005 10:09 PM

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Whatever you do, do NOT press show all posts on the babalyon 5 mod topic.

Atrocities March 8th, 2005 12:57 AM

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To: Richard, Tim, and the great Shrapnel Staff,

I know that it is really no ones business other than Shrapnels, but these forum changes and new software, not to mention the new server, must be costing Shrapnel a lot of cash. I am amazed at the level of customer sevice that shrapnel games has gone to ensure a stable and productive forum environment for the games you sell.

As a customer, I want to say thank you for being such a great company and for working so hard to keep us happy.

Combat Wombat March 8th, 2005 01:04 AM

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Atrocities said:
To: Richard, Tim, and the great Shrapnel Staff,

I know that it is really no ones business other than Shrapnels, but these forum changes and new software, not to mention the new server, must be costing Shrapnel a lot of cash. I am amazed at the level of customer sevice that shrapnel games has gone to ensure a stable and productive forum environment for the games you sell.

As a customer, I want to say thank you for being such a great company and for working so hard to keep us happy.

I completely agree even and though I don't like all of the changes the fact that I can even complain to someone in charge and get a actual response is wonderful. You would never see this kind of personal involvement at any other publisher/developer. Thank You http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Will March 8th, 2005 03:01 AM

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It is starting to grow on me... would still prefer it on the left, but oh well.

And I still think the "Order X" links on the top should be ditched in favor of a specific store link on the side (ie, clicking takes you directly to the game sales page, not store front page). Keep the "Our Store" button as well, though.

And I want the bullet back http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

narf poit chez BOOM March 8th, 2005 03:04 AM

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You mean this bullet?
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/images/...apnelhomeB.gif

Will March 8th, 2005 03:14 AM

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Almost. It said Intel Forums on it, instead.

But...

YAY!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

*does happy dance*

Combat Wombat March 8th, 2005 03:15 AM

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Oh man narf why did you even have that?

Atrocities March 8th, 2005 03:20 AM

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I like the new cossy feeling of the forum. Feels great.

narf poit chez BOOM March 8th, 2005 03:23 AM

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Will said:
Almost. It said Intel Forums on it, instead.

But...

YAY!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

*does happy dance*

Well, I only have the link to the shrapnel home one.

CW: To qoute someone, [BIG, EVIL GRIN]

But...Hmm...

Nope. Tried a little link manipulation, didn't work.

Fyron March 8th, 2005 04:21 AM

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Join the FFBB (Forumers For Big Bullets) in protesting the new site layout! Bring back the bullet! Vive la balle!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif

David E. Gervais March 8th, 2005 09:25 AM

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I don't know about joining a 'Big Bullet' brigade, but...

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...apnelMenu1.jpg

What do you think of this??

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

David E. Gervais March 8th, 2005 09:33 AM

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Speaking of bullets, I think I'll jump the gun..

Attached is a zip with all the buttons needed (including a blank and highlighted versions) in case the powers that be like this idea..

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Aiken March 8th, 2005 09:36 AM

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Our BFGs need some really big bullets. I'll join that movement, Fyron.

Nodachi March 8th, 2005 11:14 AM

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David, those look great! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif I hope they go for the idea.

Strategia_In_Ultima March 8th, 2005 11:28 AM

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You COULD make it look like they were in a bullet belt, for a machine gun..... but that's just an idea

Strategia_In_Ultima March 8th, 2005 12:01 PM

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And can anyone tell me what this little dummy button does or why it is present? I only started seeing it AFTER the forum modifications.

Fyron March 8th, 2005 03:52 PM

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That button has been there for a long time. It used to say "Spellcheck," and it still does when writing a new post. Unfortunately it is bugged on the edit post page. A few people have reported it already in this thread. Hopefully Richard/Mindi can get it fixed soon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Alneyan March 8th, 2005 05:16 PM

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NullAshton said:
Whatever you do, do NOT press show all posts on the babalyon 5 mod topic.

I have found that to be a disappointment: it only takes a few minutes to load, and barely takes... what, half the resources on my computer. We need a much bigger thread to truly make computers collapse due to "Show All Posts".

I will be against your change this time David: I much prefer the current buttons myself. Then again, I am always in the minority (or plainly alone) whenever it comes to graphics, so.


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