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Pepper September 6th, 2005 10:18 AM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
I second Tom D's comments.

What are your two stories anyhow? How'd you find yourselves in this position? Did you guys design the original game, or are you just coders who have taken on the SP series as a side-project? Seems like you've put in lots of time and effort -- its appreciated!

DRG September 6th, 2005 10:41 AM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
Quote:

Pepper said:
I second Tom D's comments.

What are your two stories anyhow? How'd you find yourselves in this position? Did you guys design the original game, or are you just coders who have taken on the SP series as a side-project? Seems like you've put in lots of time and effort -- its appreciated!

It's a L O N G story and some of it is a bit of a soap opera and I won't get into that but Andy and I have been working on SP mods since 1998. The first game was a Hex Editor hacked WW2 version of SP2 released in Dec 1998 called SP2WW2. We got access to the game code in July 1999 and have been working on SPWW2 then SPMBT ever since. We took a break for a half year or so in 2003. The development history for WinSPMBT is in the Game guide and if you have a copy of SPww2 that history is in that guide as well.

Don

RVPERTVS September 6th, 2005 10:53 PM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
Looking forward to the patch here too

In case I'm still in time, I would suggest a toggle feature showing who's attacking who on enemy's turn (or either)and of course just for detected enemies (optional?)
I'm talking about a red line and hex mark just like the one used by the target feature, just like if the enemy were using it and I can see it.

Sometimes it gets tricky to follow the oncomings with all those little tiny rifle bullets flying around.

Thanks in advance

Akmatov September 7th, 2005 03:05 PM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
"OK, you've got it.

51) The game maps can now be scrolled in all directions using the up, down, left and right arrow keys. If accessed from the numeric keyboard Numlock must be OFF

Don"

Don, I've wanted this since SP first came out! THANK YOU!!!!!

RVPERTVS September 7th, 2005 08:53 PM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
Oh yeah, arrow scrolling is a feature (among others) I´m eagerly waiting to use in this game. It´s just getting better and better. Congratulations for such a superb game¡¡¡

Don, is there any chance to consider the feature I suggested? (the one that would display who´s attacking who by a red line and hex mark, or whatever)

I think it would help us a lot to keep track of events going on in the battlefield.

Thanks in advance, and congratulations again

JaM September 8th, 2005 05:29 AM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
This game already have things coded that are unreal in real fight (like number of enemy sighted, etc...) you have complete control of all your units (real commander dont), you know everything about all enemy units spotted (real commander dont), you know exactly what type of T-72 is firing at you without problem (it is a real difference if you stand against T-72 or T-72BM... Do you really think that game needs other feature to make it easier?

scJazz September 8th, 2005 10:27 AM

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Quote:

RVPERTVS said:
Don, is there any chance to consider the feature I suggested? (the one that would display who´s attacking who by a red line and hex mark, or whatever)

I think it would help us a lot to keep track of events going on in the battlefield.

Thanks in advance, and congratulations again

Some days I really want this feature. Others I don't. In the interest of self honesty I'm going to say I don't want it. The only time I desire it is when I'm faced with a bunch of bad guys that I've softened up and I'm looking for the one that is still capable of firing. I doubt IRL that a soldier would have the time and concentration to figure out which of a platoon of tanks was still undamaged and returning fire.

On the other hand the camo paint jobs on these icons really does a number on my eyes after hours of play. I would love a set of day glow blue and red icons http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif or hilited hexes where friendly units or sighted enemy units are located.

Mobhack September 8th, 2005 10:30 AM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
If you need to know where the enemy are, then switch the ID tags on. I consider them a "semi cheat" as they highlight that RPG team you had forgotten about http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Andy

RVPERTVS September 8th, 2005 12:10 PM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 

I know what you are saying, but just consider this:

1.- It would be optional (toggle)

2.- I don´t need to know where the enemy is, what I need to know in some cases is what enemy unit is attacking me.

3.- It would be for already detected enemies only (it could be optional though)

I know we all are looking for realistic gameplay and stuff, I´m just talking about knowing in every single attack what enemy is hiting you, and I´m not talking about undetected enemies, I´m talking about already detected ones. After all it´s a viedogame isn´t it?

DRG September 8th, 2005 05:43 PM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
As Andy pointed out. That's why ID tags are helpful. It covers points 1 and 3 perfectly.

Don

Double_Deuce September 8th, 2005 05:59 PM

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Quote:

DRG said:
As Andy pointed out. That's why ID tags are helpful. It covers points 1 and 3 perfectly.

I can vouch for that fact. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

RVPERTVS September 8th, 2005 06:49 PM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
Actually it was number 2 I was more interested about.

Anuway, my point was: sometimes I don´t know what (already detected) enemy is attacking me.

Artur September 11th, 2005 01:55 PM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
Gentlemen,

Will the Game CD version be updated to V2.0 ?
I wish to order the CD version and I wonder if I should wait until the patch comes out and order after that or will I have to DL the patch anyway...

BTW any news about the patch release date? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Artur.

DRG September 11th, 2005 04:52 PM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
The game CD's will remain ver 1.01 for now and the upgrade patch needs to be applied to them.

The patch should be available sometime in the next two weeks

Don

whdonnelly April 4th, 2006 06:09 PM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
I 'm about to buy a couple of CDs for friends without internet. Are the CD's still at v1.01?
Will

DRG April 4th, 2006 07:15 PM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
Yes....as far as I know they are. The ver 2 patch and then ver 2.5 supplement will need to be applied ( in order ) and that will bring the game up to ver 2.5. If you want the 2.51 version with the turrets that track the enemy that is available on the main forum page

Don

whdonnelly April 5th, 2006 12:11 AM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
Thanks. I'll send the patches on CDs also.
Will

JohnHale April 6th, 2008 03:57 AM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
Quote:

DRG said:
As Andy pointed out. That's why ID tags are helpful. It covers points 1 and 3 perfectly.

Don



I NEVER play PBEM without having ID tags displayed.

hawk66 August 17th, 2008 05:18 PM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
Did you consider to provide the enhanced version as a download version in the future? (no custom issues etc.)

Anyway, thanks for that great game!

Mobhack August 17th, 2008 07:27 PM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk66 (Post 632036)
Did you consider to provide the enhanced version as a download version in the future? (no custom issues etc.)

Anyway, thanks for that great game!

No.

The CD version was provided in that format precisely because people were asking for a physical copy. And some folk wanted some sort of printed manual, even if it was just a primer.

Cheers
Andy

Wdll August 23rd, 2008 04:51 PM

Re: What Changes in the CD Version
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk66 (Post 632036)
Did you consider to provide the enhanced version as a download version in the future? (no custom issues etc.)

Anyway, thanks for that great game!

You can always order the CD and then just copy the files to a hardrive. I haven't tried it (I installed it directly from the disc), but it might work.


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