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Horst F. JENS October 22nd, 2006 12:08 PM

amazing site of content
 
just looked at the "Table of contest" at the wiki frontpage... really impressing. Someone did a great job. Thank you !
i did a red arrow into the screenshot to make it more easy for beginners to use this feature.
http://members.chello.at/horst.jens/pics/dom3wiki_1.png




Horst F. JENS October 22nd, 2006 12:14 PM

Re: amazing site of content
 
and here is the nation list.
amazing work !
http://members.chello.at/horst.jens/pics/dom3wiki_2.png

Nerfix October 22nd, 2006 01:15 PM

Re: amazing site of content
 
You want me to put my atlantis/agartha demo guides there?

Horst F. JENS October 22nd, 2006 01:23 PM

Re: amazing site of content
 
Please !!!!!!

Nerfix October 22nd, 2006 01:40 PM

Re: amazing site of content
 
Alright. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Horst F. JENS October 22nd, 2006 02:31 PM

Re: amazing site of content
 
I just started the wiki guide for Pangea Early Age... not finished yet.

dirtywick October 22nd, 2006 02:43 PM

Re: amazing site of content
 
The Shinuyama guide will be ready today or tomorrow depending on if I got time. I'll try to figure out the tags and whatnot for the wiki, but we'll see, it's already a lot of writing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif.

Horst F. JENS October 22nd, 2006 06:50 PM

Re: amazing site of content
 
ok, the Pangea early age guide is nearly done:
http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Dominions_3:_The_Awakening/Nations/Pangaea%2C_Age_of_Revelry

dirtywick October 23rd, 2006 01:46 AM

Re: amazing site of content
 
Hey Horst,

I really have no idea how to work the tags at the wiki. I'll look into finding some sites on how to do it myself later, but I've been writing for hours over the last couple of days and don't have the energy now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Anyway, I posted the Shinuyama guide here:
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...vc=#Post461594

So if you could put it up for me, again, I'd appreciate it!

Thanks.

Horst F. JENS October 23rd, 2006 04:12 AM

Re: amazing site of content
 
It is really no great deal, but i will happy do it for you if you want. just drop me an message.

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction for a nice introduction.

I still learned something new on the wiki yesterday:
initiate a heading with an semicolon and close it with an colon.
Quote:

;Bandit Archer:
This unit is very cool.

This will give a nice effect as can be seen at
http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Dominio...ions/Shinuyama

To do big headings and autmatic generate a table of Contents box at the thop of the article, make the equal sign (=) before and after the heading. One equal sign for important level-1 headings, two equal signs for less important headings and so on.
Quote:

=First very important headline=
==Not so important sub-headline of the first headline==
=Second very important headline=


That is all i do. And messing around with your text, of course :-) But is hard to find something to improve in your guides, because they are perfect.

dirtywick October 23rd, 2006 12:23 PM

Re: amazing site of content
 
Thanks for the help. I didn't want to mess it up.

I'm glad you like the guides http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif They're actually a lot of work to write, that one was like 8 pages long it Word.

upstreamedge October 23rd, 2006 05:37 PM

Re: Thanks for all the help
 
I added some stuff to the Late Era Ulm page, I want to know what people think

Horst F. JENS October 24th, 2006 03:34 AM

Re: Thanks for all the help
 
hi upstreamedge, the stuff you added is not bad, but ...well.. could you expand it a bit ?
Maybe add a unit discussion (take the layout from Pangea early age) or list all the national spells. Or start describing some of the über-cool heroes of Ulm.

The text you wrote so far would fit very good in the genereal page about Ulm http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Dominio...ng/Nations/Ulm
to give people an idea how Ulm changed over the three different Era's.

Morkilus October 24th, 2006 03:15 PM

Re: Thanks for all the help
 
I have added a sort-of template for the nation pages in the page for EA Abysia. Feel free to use it when filling out nation strategies and information. I'll be slowly filling them in, but feel free to help.

StrategyWiki: EA Abysia

Horst F. JENS October 25th, 2006 03:14 AM

Re: Thanks for all the help
 
Very cool ! Thank you, Morkilus !

dirtywick October 25th, 2006 10:01 AM

Re: Thanks for all the help
 
That'll be really helpful to me, thanks.

I've decided to do MA Abysia next unless someone has already started that.

Unwise October 25th, 2006 11:36 AM

Re: Thanks for all the help
 
The point of a Wiki is that people add and correct the work of previous submitters and that no one has "dibs" on any particular section. Thus, do MA Abby and if someone manages to beat you to it, add your stuff to theirs.

That said, with so much left to do, I can understand the desire to avoid duplication of effort.

For my part, I have done the base work on EA Ulm, EA Mictlan, Helheim, and MA Ermor. It is all blatantly inaccurate and of dubious quality so I encourage people to go in there and fix it. Plus, I specifically insulted your mother and you really ought to go in and erase that part.

dirtywick October 25th, 2006 11:50 AM

Re: Thanks for all the help
 
Quote:

Unwise said:
The point of a Wiki is that people add and correct the work of previous submitters and that no one has "dibs" on any particular section. Thus, do MA Abby and if someone manages to beat you to it, add your stuff to theirs.

That said, with so much left to do, I can understand the desire to avoid duplication of effort.


You got it on the second part there.

I'm not asking for dibs, but with more than 50 nations and a handful of complete guides, it'd be really disappointing if I put upwards of 40 hours of testing and whatnot, which seems to be about what's necessary so far(for me), and then spend 5-6 hours writing thousands of words about what I found out, only to find out someone already did it and my time would have been better spent doing a nation that no one has done any work on.

Adding a 30 second sentence to help us all work together is going to avoid headaches for me personally. That's all, I'm not trying to be important or better than anyone or anything like that, I'm just letting people know what's going on.

Morkilus October 25th, 2006 12:20 PM

Re: Thanks for all the help
 
Quote:

Unwise said:
The point of a Wiki is that people add and correct the work of previous submitters and that no one has "dibs" on any particular section. Thus, do MA Abby and if someone manages to beat you to it, add your stuff to theirs.

That said, with so much left to do, I can understand the desire to avoid duplication of effort.


This is kinda why i separated "objective" information like units, national features, from strategies, so you can write without getting in the way of others. I kinda doubt it would be worth it to rework what has already been done, at least for now.

There's a template {{wip}} that lets people know you're working on a section. Just add it to the top of the page you're working on (be sure to, you know, actually work on it if you mark it). I went ahead and added it to MA abysia so you can see. (it's not that obvious though
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif )

Horst F. JENS October 26th, 2006 06:43 AM

Re: Thanks for all the help
 
Morkilus,
i started using to copy your gems into the not-yet existing nation guides. It is very useful, i was able to make the Atlantis guide more pretty with it. A small suggestion:
What do you think about moving the headline "National Summons" into two seperate Sub-headlines under the "Units" and "Commander" sections ? While most national summons will be units, some summons like Late Age Ulm Vampire Lords are Commanders.
Question: Where to put your wonderful guide template if someone is actually doing an Abysia Guide ?

Horst F. JENS October 28th, 2006 08:25 AM

wiki overwork
 
started to clean up the table of contents:
http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Dominio...le_of_Contents
It is still not perfect yet but has more structure now.
Links to "Thugs", "SC", "Prophets" are made but not filled.

dirtywick October 28th, 2006 01:57 PM

Re: wiki overwork
 
Thanks for the template, it made it really easy to learn the code and whatnot.

I'd suggest adding it somewhere as a downloadable .txt file though instead of putting it in a nation.

Horst F. JENS November 9th, 2006 05:25 PM

wikipedia entry
 
I added some "overview" to the wikipedia article about dom3:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominions_3:_The_Awakening

It could still use some help. The goal is to give people who never played any dominoins game (or any computer game at all) a short description of what dominions3 *is*. And not going to much into detail because that is what the strategywiki http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Dominions_3:_The_Awakening is for.

Horst F. JENS November 10th, 2006 11:08 AM

Marverni
 
Nation description/guide for Marverni done:
http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Dominio...tions/Marverni

I need help with the Strategy section (i figured out just one Strategy)

Morkilus October 15th, 2007 01:39 AM

Strategy Wiki
 
Here's a resurrection from doom:

I've added the new nations to the table of contents and nation list. We need plenty of more content, especially for individual nation strategies.

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Dominio...kening/Nations

lch October 15th, 2007 06:41 AM

Re: Strategy Wiki
 
Quote:

Morkilus said:
I've added the new nations to the table of contents and nation list. We need plenty of more content, especially for individual nation strategies.

You know what really always bugged me about that page? That clicking on a graphic brings you to the image article instead of the nation in question, for which you'll have to click on the much smaller nation name. That's goddamn counter-intuitive. Plus, why does one need to register in order to make edits? I think without mandatory registration, there would be a lot more fixes to the pages from people.

Edi October 15th, 2007 07:01 AM

Re: Strategy Wiki
 
Without mandatory registration you only need one [censored] trolling for kicks or obsessed with some tiny thing to totally wreck things, as evidenced by wikipedia. The problem with fanmade projects like the Dom3 strategy wiki is that there are few people who want to do any work but hordes of people who will gladly sponge off the work of those few, even if there are ways to add contributions of their own.

And some people, like me, prefer keeping control of what they make completely to themselves, so such individuals can be difficult to convince to join such projects.

Morkilus October 15th, 2007 01:58 PM

Re: Strategy Wiki
 
What's so hard about registering?

I can see if I can get the picture to direct to the nation page instead, but I kinda doubt I can.

lch October 15th, 2007 02:24 PM

Re: Strategy Wiki
 
If I look at some page and see some typo or something missing and I have immediate control to edit that section, then I might do it. Requiring to register myself beforehand and undergo the whole email confirmation shenanigans etc. makes it an effort which is too big to commit to in just that moment.

Horst F. JENS October 15th, 2007 02:40 PM

Re: Strategy Wiki
 
I understand you and feel the same. However if you register once, you can tell (your browser or in the wiki) to auto-login.
This may be a silly idea if you work from a public PC but it can make it more simple to just edit one paragraph.

Morkilus October 16th, 2007 01:33 PM

Re: Strategy Wiki
 
There's been an update to Pangaea! Thanks. Someday someone will transfer the various guides to the wiki... as soon as I run out of things to do at work again, perhaps.


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