Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

Wouldn't most of the leser ships have been owned by the cylon "1337 h4x0r 474x"? If the peggy barely made it with it's fleet just cause it's abattle star, and scrapped her fleet for weapons ammo and crew. aAny lesser ship would have been obliterated I bet.

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Would not lesser ships have had a correspondingly smaller attack force directed at them so that more ships could be used against the battlestars?

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Roslin didn't condone it. She flipped out on Tighe over it. It's not been made clear that Adama even knows it was occuring, but I can't imagine he won't be pissed off. I'm rather looking forward to that discussion between Adama and Tighe actually. Tighe is the only one in authority condoning it, and he's pretty well screwed up from weeks of imprisonment and torture.

That's kind of the point I think, how otherwise "normal" people can be pushed to the breaking point and into doing things they wouldn't otherwise consider. Not to mention Tighe has always been a little close to the edge anyway. Look how fast he turned into a dictator when Adama was shot.

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You say that as if it was a bad thing. I wouldn't use the term dictator though, more establishing order.

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Tighe is a ground force general,but bad fleet captain.

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Actually, New Caprica was reached with a cylon FTL drive. the show has established that the cylon's FTL drives have further range than Colonial systems. I seem to recall them saying that it would take galactica's SAR far more than 10 jumps to get to caprica.

I'm of the opinion that any further survivors and stuff being found be like how galactica finds a planet every 15 episodes or so right now. I think there are more survivors, but I really doubt RDM will feature them. We know atleast 15 other ships outside of Pegasus and the rag Tag Fleet survived (of course, Cain severely cut their chances by stealing their engines, supplies, fuel, crews... it goes on).

Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

No actually it was reached by accident when a raptor got lost during one of the jumps toward Cappricca during the rescue mission.

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Whoops, my bad. I ment to say Caprica was reached via a cylon FTL computer. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

Yes, the toasters do have superior FTL. Lucky metal bastards.

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SPOILER

I told you that they were going to blow up the Pegasus and well they just did. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Now all they have is that tunker Galatica and they lost the fighters, supplies, ordanences, figting capability, and spare parts from the Pegasus.

I knew they would get rid of her, and it just pisses me off. They got rid of her just to get rid of her for a wow factor.

Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

I'm watching Exodus II right now. I'm not happy, but I'm also overjoyed at this episode. But really pissed about some parts.

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I thought it was an excellent show. I really regret loosing the Beast but now the show is back to its roots, the one Battlestar and a truly rage tage fleet. Should get interesting now.

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I'm kinda lookin forward to an episode that gives us insight on just HOW the toasters FOUND religion. Did they derive it from human teachings or was it an original Idea, and from a Cylon or human (or other)?

It's about time to see a new Cylon model too. With Tigh's wife's death, we have an opportunity, but it would ruin one of the funniest jokes from the show. The one where, after the dinner in which Tigh's wife makes her first major appearance in the 'show', Someone says "what if she's not a Cylon/" and Adama replies "Then We're Doomed".

Still, seeing a New Bio-cylon model during this season should happen; whether we've seen it before or whether it's one we haven't been introduced to yet !

Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

You know, VanderVecken, that is a good point. I would enjoy seeing an episode that addressed those questions as well.

Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

if you watch the deleted scenes from kobol's last gleaming, the origins of the cylon faith is hinted at.

I'm still pissed they destroyed pegasus. I liked having two battlestars on the show.

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Not quite spoilers...

Hopefully one of the remaining twelve Cylon models will be the Imperius Leader... with only one copy. If Arnold ceases to be governator after Nov 7th, then he could take the role! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
That would leave four undisclosed models, which presumably have been taken out of service, except for the models in the field.

I still think Boxy should have been a cylon, but they've pretty much forgotten about him. Tigh's wife, Apollo's wife and **'s mother... would be my choice for the remaining cylons.

Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

It was a forgone conclusion that the Pegasus was upper cased f**ked from the word go. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

I guess they wanted to get back too the roots of the show and while I hate too see the BEAST destroyed, I am kinda glad they moved back toward the original theme of the show. Besides it was like they really didn't know what to do with the BEAST as most of the story lines for the young gal seemed haphazard at best.

But still loosing her does suck. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

Maybe the Pegasus will be resurrected by the Cylons. I would rebuild it "if" I was a Cylon.

And no, I don't think Baltar should be a Cylon, because that would negate his betrayal of humanity... but maybe the Cylons will give him the new Pegasus. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

I think the Aid to the President, Billy, was a cylon. I think he might be the one they use as the leader because they *****ed his character just to follow some crappy story line that droxizilla (sp) was hot for Lee. (I don't by the D'ee/Apollo romance at all. There is no chemistry there.)

Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

IIRC, Paul Campbell who played Billy on the show wanted to get out of it to pursue other acting options. I believe he just wanted a reduced role, but the writers felt it would be a stronger exit for him got get whacked.

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billy should've exited during the election scandal, that would've been a far better exit for him, and allow him to return for cameos.

I personally think the exit of pegasus would've been not because of story concerns, but because of budget.

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good point about the budget.

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I don't see why it would be a budget thing. IIRC all the ships in the new series are CG, aren't they?

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SciFi channel is infamous for their budget. Normally they only allocate 3/4ths the normal amount of money. RDM and Eick has both commented how scifi has been riding them on the budget since captain's hand and the declaining ratings.

Budget is a huge factor when you consider the average BSG episode runs 2-3 million dollars, and ones like pegasus, ressurection 1 & 2 , captain's hand, lay down your burdens 1 & 2, and Exodus can run as high as 3-5 million each because of all the CG shots and location shoots.

Budget was a huge factor in Enterprise (2-4 million per episode) being cancelled and Stargate SG1 (upwards of 3-5 million).

I should also point out the reason why all the corners are cut on paper and displays from BSG is an injoke about SciFi channel's insistance on cutting corners for the budget.

Pegasus's internal sets are also the sets of the Jupiter II from ost in Space http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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So how much does a 30-second advertisement on BSG cost?
The last episode was 43 minutes out of 60,
which gives about 60-43 = 17 x2= 34 30-second spots.

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That was some good Galactica! But does anyone know the name of that episode? Was it just Exodus Part 2, or...? I don't actually get Sci-Fi where I am, so I have to rely on downloading it the next day, but this week's download didn't have an episode title for some reason.

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Yeah, it ws called Exodus P2.

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How strikingly original.

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RDM confirmed on scifi.com that the loss of Pegasus was because of budget and the fact SciFi won't budget money for another sound stage or warehouse for BSG

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Billy, the actor, waited and waited and waited to sign a contract to re-up for the series, ultimitely didn't and was killed off.

EDIT: But I agree - it would have made more dramatic sense if they could have waited until during the scandal to off him.

C&C3:Tiberium Wars
 

Tricia Helfer (Six) and Grace Park (Boomer) are costarring in the new Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars

Re: C&C3:Tiberium Wars
 

Okay, I know I'm a little late but I just caught up with the latest episode of BSG and I have to say they done did good.

I'm glad to see the Pegasus (that "elephant in the corner") finally go, but I'm also happy they did it with a certain flair. Love how many Basestar's it cost the Cylons to finally kill the ol' Beast.

And ya REALLY gotta love Adama's "Atmospheric Ambush Manuever" !!! You have to admit, THAT was truly original.

Tighe
 

I've finally figured out something that's been nagging at the back of my mind: why is Tighe a Colonel? COL isn't a naval rank, it's a marine or army (or air force) rank. And, all the others on BSG are naval personnel. Always bothered me, because the creators certainly knew what they were doing otherwise.

Well, I've finally figured it out: He's a Colonial Marine!

That's why he was so good on the ground, that's why he knew so much about boarding actions (and how to deal with the cylon boarding parties in the first season), and that's possibly why he did the things he did when he was in charge on BSG and on the ground (heavy handed, willing and able to do what needed to be done regardless of the human cost, etc...).

Whew. Glad I figured that out finally. It'd been weighing on my mind.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: C&C3:Tiberium Wars
 

The entire episode was great but that was the best part of it! Great CG and awesome idea. Hopefully we get more impressive scenes like that in the future.

Re: C&C3:Tiberium Wars
 

If galactica doesn't win an award this year, A lot of people are gonna be pissed.

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I really liked this episode as well. It showed the great difference in survivability between Galactica and Pegasus. Galactica was getting hammered to [censored], without doing nearly as much damage as Pegasus did before she bit the dust. 3 Basestars gone, that was impressive.

Re: Tighe
 

Small unit tactics, Guerilla warfare, the "do whatever it takes" mentality, the overall impression he's "uncomfortable" in his place on the Command Bridge...


You know, that does make a certain amount of sense. He really does seem much more like a rough and tumble ground-pounder than a fleet officer.

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Yeah, it's intersting that the Basestars completely gave up on the Galactica once the Pegasus showed up. They were handling the Galactica with practically no trouble at all, but the Pegasus needed their concentrated attention IMMEDIATELY !!!

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Pegasus showed up and destroyed one basestar with her forward batteries, I would think that gets some immediate attention.

Then she, crippled and dying, takes out another with a suicide run.

then, after the Beast died, still managed to destroy yet another basestar by flinging a flight pod at it.

Damn, that's one mean ship.

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This seems as good a place as any to post this link:

Cylon-o-lantern

Re: C&C3:Tiberium Wars
 

Agreed. Damn fine episode and well deserving of awards for SFX.

Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

She will be missed. And they didn't give her the nick name Beast for nothing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif Also one of the human cylons said that the cylons were stretched pretty thin resource wise. So it stands to reason that loosing 2 and half basestars hurt them. But hey, with any luck they just got themselves a new human leader in Blatar. SO it all evens out in the wash. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

Hell, with Baltar as their new leader they're worse off than if they'd never rebelled in the first place. Just imagine how much they'll suffer having to constantly listen to his pathetic whining and self-pity...

Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

I saw the first 3 episodes of this season last night. I get the idea that situation is past but I have to agree it looked like a critique of Iraq. The humans fight the Cylon occupation with suicide bombing, the Cylons have a police force treated as traitors by the others and who wear masks to protect their identity, and the Cylon conquerers who claim to be allies of the "legitimate" government force said government to sign the execution order with a gun to their head. Hard to miss which side they are supporting.

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Hmmm, Don't think they are supporting any side, but did find a way to show that there are always two (or more) sides to any conflict. Some may want to complain about the "Analogies to Iraq" being forced down on us, but I think it does our country proud that we even have the capacity to do this. It probably would be illegal to make something like this in over 30% of the countries of the world. Plus, for the most part, it was entertaining as well.

Hmmm (part 2)... Col. Tigh and Starbuck have always been adversarial, but now both have come off the planet with some really heavy emotional baggage; could a bond of misery (or at least a drunken commiseration) continue to form ??

Oh yeah! Atmospheric maneuver was superb, gutsy, legend making thing of beauty.

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The funny part is that RDM didn't need to mine iraq for those episodes, He had all the puppet governments and occupations from the last 8,000 years to mine. So I dismiss the Iraq anaology, Suicide bombings (or homicide bombings if you watch fox) isn't exclusive to iraq.

But it was definately nice to see that someone on TV has the guts to show that there another side exists.

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I still think that Baltar is a special cylon who isn't going to be duplicated. maybe even unknown to #6, he's being groomed to be the ulimate Cylon leader, which we haven't even heard about yet. Or maybe he'll be the hybrid's mentor. I really would like them to speed up Baltar's character so we know what he'll ultimately will become.

As far as Friday's episode, I thought it was awesome. The Galactica going into the atmosphere was a great and original trick. too bad about the Pegasus, but the title of the show is Battlestar Galactica, not Battlestars Galactica and Pegasus. Who knows, there might be a third surviving battlestar out there that they'll eventually run into. I like the theory about Tighe being a marine. Makes sense. And ultimately, I approve of the way he took care of his wife. Decently and humanely. After all, he did love her, no matter what her flaws were. Can't wait to see what happens next.

Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
 

Found this video of the Galactica's atmosphere attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhMA4ICS_PU

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That was just freaking awesome.

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Say, isn't Kara due for a haircut?
And I'll bet the Colonel is gonna look good with a pirate-ish eye patch.