Aran
 

Thanks for letting us know. It's no problem as far as I'm concerned. Take your time, it's supposed to be fun, not a chore!

Turns are taking a while because you've got too many units and provinces. I'm really trying to help you out as much as I can with that, but it's tough http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

Edit:

In news from the West, Marverni has resorted to crack suicide poison bomb squads to strike terror into the ranks of Vanheim. What news from the East? Is it too much to hope that by now a peace has been forged between Mictlan and Ermor? Is Arco preparing to launch a deadly attack on the coasts from their secret underwater base?

Re: Aran
 

Arcoscephale as it once was is no more. The oeriads and mystics are all dead.

We are the last remains of their power, a failed attempt to probe the depths of the seas. We lay no claim to their fallen throne. We have no interest in wars fought on the dry lands.

The depths are our concern and home now. Leave us be.

Re: Aran
 

Vanheim has no desire for the waters and will gladly leave them to Arcosephale.

Some underwater expeditions may be needed in the war against Malverni, but Arcosephale will be left alone as long as they do not interfere with us on land.

Shaiar

Re: Aran
 

Our condolences to the refugees of Arcoscephale. Marverni is now half in the water itself, so we know how you feel. Do not forget who it was that chased you from the land, and ravaged your sacred Oeriads! Do not hide from the painful memories of the pillage and plunder committed by the Norse giants. Fight the power!

-- Ministry of Incitement, Marverni Nation

Re: Aran
 

I'm laughing too much to stay in character, but this is the third province I've lost to events in the past seven or so turns and I took no misfortune. Bring it on! *snicker*

Re: Aran
 

Marverni has had exceptional luck recently! Many magic sites are popping up in our lands -- in exactly the same month in which Vanheim invades and takes over the province http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif.

On another topic, here's an idea for a new ritual spell:

Slippery Fingers
W2
Alt5

Cast it on a province and a hero in the province will drop one non-cursed magic item, which will be lost forever. Preferably his ring of water breathing.

Re: Aran
 

The Nation of Marverni thinks that the war for Aran was probably decided about 6 months ago. However, we are continuing the fight against Vanheim just in case Ermor and Mictlan would like to see their conflict through to its final resolution.

If you are all bored, though, now might be an good time for everyone to surrender to Vanheim.

Re: Aran
 

Completely ooc, but I'd like to thank you for hosting, vfb - it's been a very fun game. It'd be nice to have another turn or two, as I'm finally going to break the long term siege that Mictlan has been hammering me with - for better or worse. Will be a fun battle to watch.

Nice job Vanheim, and if you'd like to have another game with the same crew, etc. (perhaps with a different map), vfb, count me in if possible. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Aran
 

Yeah its been a fun game and thanks for the host. If you throw another I would love a spot. I have to give it up to Ermor for countering my jags nicely.

Re: Aran
 

Thanks! I'm glad you've enjoyed the game. I'll have to PM Eressil3 and K to see if they are interested too, since they may not be following this thread any more. I think everyone contributed a lot to making it a very fun game.

I will leave the server running until everyone decides they've had enough. Marverni is only likely to be alive for another month, possibly two.

The next game I will host is likely to be using the CB mod:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...86850&page

And I think the map I will use will be Parganos (Edi's Fix):

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...01807&page

What era are you interested in? I'm just finally beginning to understand EA, and I've only played MA once.

Edit: tromper doesn't like Parganos ... at least according to the Utterdark MP thread. Any suggestions for a different map? How many people want to join? Is anyone from the first Tyrande game reading this thread?

Edit again: Looks like 3.07 will be done soon:

http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/dom3progress.html

I'll hold off on hosting until 3.07 is done, and if *heim/glamor have been adjusted at all, then I'll also drop the CB mod plan too.

Re: Aran
 

Well, I'm not bored yet, but I won't turn down surrenders if that's what people want:)

I was going to be away for a long weekend anyway, leaving after work Thursday, coming back late Monday. If we can get in a couple more turns before then, it might be a good time to stop?

I wouldn't go so far as to say I'd won 6 months ago, but I've certainly got Marverni on the ropes now. You'll be alive for more than two months, but I should have your forts under a siege you won't be able to break. If I can then focus on Mictlan, I should be able to win fairly easily.
Unless Ermor has something game-winning up his sleeve. He's got half again my research.

Mictlan has at least one Ice devil, which has me worried, but I don't think he has the blood income to push too many more out, while I should start to summon Air Queens and Earth Kings within a few turns.

Re: Aran
 

Marverni is just waiting for our invulnerable hero Obelix to come along and thrash the lot of you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. He's certainly taking his time showing up though.

I'll keep the server running while Vanheim is away, it's not on a timer or anything. We can either pick it up again when he's back, if there's no more unfinished business, move on to something new. Maybe 3.07 will come out by then too.

Re: Aran
 

Well if Obelix shows up, I will have to surrender. Though he really should spend his time fighting Ermor.

I'm interested in another game. Less so if it's CB, mostly since I haven't used it enough yet and won't have much SP time to experiment. I wouldn't want Vanheim again, though.

Maybe MA? It would be kind of fun to play through all the ages with roughly the same group.

I don't know about maps. I would prefer staying about the same size. Maybe a few more provinces per player to slow down the rush, but the same number of players?

Re: Aran
 

MA would be cool with any map. I would prefer not to play CB since I have no exp with it. But ill go along with whatever.

Re: Aran
 

I'm all for whichever era or mods - I'd like to try the Worthy Hero one especially. I suppose unfamiliarity with cb is a problem though, but hey, live and learn. Err, die and learn. So either way, as far as I'm concerned. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

We all knew you won many turns ago, thejeff, don't be silly. heheheh

Regarding the Paraganos map, my gripe in that game is the clustered sorts of terrain - and my starting position was utter crap, easily steamrollered. I'm not sure what Edi 'fixed', but it sure wasn't starting position. We could always try, perhaps, a random map with slightly cranked up sites...? May take like ten map creations or so to get one that looks reasonable though. *shrug*

I've had the most fun with you guys in this game than in any other I've played, or am playing, so am willing to go with the Paraganos if ya'll decide to do so. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Aran
 

Well, I tend to worry about my weaknesses and assume others have strengths I don't know about. I lost at least one serious battle to Mictlan and was worried he could repeat that.

So, it's hard for me to tell. Do you think this was just a case of Vanheim being ridiculously overpowered? I'd like to think it was more a matter of skill and some luck. I never felt like I was unstoppable until very recently.

As sort of a (not-quite-yet) post-mortem here's how it looked to me:
I think Vanheim's reputation helped get me NAPs early on, so that I could focus on one front at a time. That was going to be Ermor, mostly because you were growing quickly and conveniently located, but Sauromatia attacked me first.

I beat them quickly, but it took all my strength and we each only had a few provinces at the time. The poison arrows and skeleton spam hurt a lot. He pulled his witch kings back at one point when I didn't know how to stop them if they'd attacked instead. That let me reinforce and take his capital.

I was very weak right after that and when Lanka attacked, I could grab provinces from him, but couldn't touch his main blessed army. If Marveni had joined with him, as he expected, or even remained neutral, Vanheim would have been in trouble. Marveni did most of the work of beating Lanka, then got bogged down in his capital.

I had a few turns of peace then, with Marveni bogged down and Mictlan fighting Ermor. My scouts saw that Arcosephale had no troops or PD in most of his provinces. Being Vanheim made that more effective, since I could get actual armies to his castles, but much of that landgrab anyone could have done with scouts.

Then I had 3 turns before the NAPs broke. Luckily for me, Mictlan didn't attack with much if anything right away, so I could focus on Marveni first. If Ermor and Mictlan has come to terms and all attacked at together I don't think I would have lasted long. I could hardly make progress against Mictlan at first, Jaguar Warriors are not much weaker than Vanheres and he seemed have more of them. Blade wind did more than my sacreds. Wrathful skies on the other hand was a great disappointment.


I still don't think Vanheres make Vanheim anywhere near as abusive as Helheim or the other ages Vanheims. They're slower, so can be shot/cast at for longer than Vans and unshielded so arrows are more effective. The glamor is nice, but without the high defense, there isn't the synergy with the W9 bless and berserk lowers defense making it even worse. Earth works well, and helps the mages, but I'd be tempted to try just Fire or maybe Fire and a low Nature to avoid afflictions.

Re: Aran
 

I agree that in EA, Helheim is stronger than Vanheim.

And I think Vanheim possibly had the worst starting position since it was pretty much surrounded, though Mictlan probably did get shafted with a bunch of wasteland, and Arco had only strong indies to expand into.

Vanheim did do a great job in all areas of diplomacy, military, and magic, so please don't let my whining about heims here and in other threads detract from your victory! It was well deserved.

MA sounds good to me. Any objections to waiting until 3.07 is out? Since CB sounds unpopular, I'll pass on using it if we can play 3.07. Depending on the number of players it may be difficult to find an appropriate map, so I may experiment with 15-province-per-player random maps and the 'good starting positions' perl script I saw somewhere. What about nation choice? Would you prefer random nations, or choosing your nation?

I will PM the Tyrande players who were not in this game to get their opinions too.

Re: Aran
 

I was hoping to see the final battle between my forces and Mictlan's sieging army, but the server appears to be down. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Don't worry about your victory being deemed a mere result of your nation, thejeff, you played your cards capably.

I like to roleplay, and the nations routinely deemed as overpowered usually have an advantage when players like me are kicking around. And that's fine by me - Mictlan had been the first to insult and rape my populace. I had no choice but to respond as the plebes demanded recompense.

I witnessed a few of your battles against Arco and one against Mar, and you knew what you were doing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Aran
 

Nope the IP has changed:

60.46.30.238

Sorry I forgot not everyone uses the domain name. Either that or DNS table changes have not propogated yet.

Re: Aran
 

I'd love to be in the next game as well if there's room, you guys were a great bunch to play with.

Re: Aran
 

I'd be up to playing in a new game.

In general, mods make me unhappy.

Re: Aran
 

Fantastic battle. You almost took it with that Ice Devil, Tequilich! I'm going to have to watch it again in the morning when I'm sober and my partner is off to her laboratory, leaving me alone. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Mictlan scares me forevermore because of you. *jaguar dreams*

I'd be in to trying out the Worthy Heroes mod, vfb, if nobody is against it. It adds a lot of spice for all nations from what I've read. Keep us posted.

And congrats, thejeff. Be sure and mention your victory in the winner thread thingee. You deserve it. *Augur Elder prostrating himself and waiting for the next age*

Re: Aran
 

Hello everyone. I'm one of the guys from vfb's Tyrande game and he let me know another MP game might start soon from this group. I've got a few going myself but looks like I may be eliminated in one soon so if this actually goes through, I wouldn't mind joining.

A 20 prov per player random map would be fine with me.

Worthy Heroes is a fun mod to play. Never played it MP though. And I too would avoid the CB mod, only because I don't always agree with someone elses definition of balance. But I'd try Worthy Heroes.

Re: Aran
 

That was an impressive battle, again. Things like that one and the last big battle between you two that I saw, are what make me think I'm not so dominant. I don't know what I would have done to beat that force.

I guess I just have to keep reminding myself, that was probably close to everything you could pull together, so I'd need to do something similar to match it, not just one army.




For the next game, since I'm going to be away and assuming we play MA, I'd like to put in a bid for Jotunheim. Stick with the Norse theme.

vfb, it doesn't look like 3.07 is going to be out soon, so we could do CB, but would you be happy going without it if no one's playing Vanheim?

I'd be fine with Worthy Heroes or without it. Hmmm, I may need luck. Angerboda is really nice and so is the Neifel hero.

Re: Aran
 

Yeah good battle Ermor your magic is just too potent. I now know for sure Mictlan MUST research construction4 for those rods before going down the blood path. WH mod sounds fun for the next game as does MA, but im not sure who I will play yet. The armies of Mictlan is spent and I am also going to be away for the weekend so maybe we should call thejeff the winner if vfb and tromper agree. If not then ill still finish it out.

Re: Aran
 

Marverni thinks it would be good for Ermor to get one more turn in, so Vanheim can have the pleasure of trashing us http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. Vanheim has already played the turn.

Re: Aran
 

It's game over, the never-mighty forces of Ermor could put up a fight for one year, max. And that's no fun. thejeff rocks Aran, this round. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

(tried to log in to the server to play out the final turn for you guys, but it appears down)

Re: Aran
 

First congrats to Thejeff for his victory. You should put it in the stickies.

I'm not in the CB mod mood. Glamour will hopefully be fixed with the next patch since the added nations will be glamour-based.

MA is fine with me.

I would like to try pangaea or pythium.

Re: Aran
 

If we're picking races for MA, I would like Abysia, if it's available.

Re: Aran
 

So.... When are you starting a new MA game vfb? haha

Re: Aran
 

I'll keep the list of people who have requested nations here.

No mods, because of the new release.

Tequilich - Machaka
Thrawn - Abysia
Eressil3 - Pangaea
K - Bandar Log
tromper - Marignon
thejeff - Jotunheim
BandarLover - Pythium
vfb - Eriu
jimkehn - Ulm
thraveboy - Vanheim

Let me know what you want, and feel free to change your mind. 3.08 new races are fine.

Re: Aran
 

Do you want to start a new thread for this? It's easier to have the players/nations/rules as the first post. Some of the players might be more likely to notice a new thread than this one, as well.

I wouldn't worry about holidays. If the games still running, we can wait, or you can find a substitute.
Or we'll just try to kill you off firsthttp://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

As far as patching:
You need to use the old version until those games patch. In the 3.08 thread, Meglobob suggested just saving the 3.06 dom3 executable and using that when the old version is needed.
I'm more paranoid and copy the entire directory.

Re: Aran
 

Maybe we should just stick to the players you listed vfb to speed the game up some... Also while I am here I request Machaka!

Re: Aran
 

Yes, that was my plan. I will make a new thread for the game once it's started. This won't be a habit of mine, I just want to avoid accidentally starting an enormous game this time.

I'm going to try CTis, so everyone will probably hate me to death and kill me first, but I don't know if I can leave the server up and running the entire time I'm away.

Re: Aran
 

Guess sign me up for Pythium, if Eressil3 would prefer Pangaea. I'd be surprised to see some one pick the new MA race just yet.

Re: Aran
 

Vanheim for me please. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Aran
 

I'll play as Bandar Log.

Re: Aran
 

I don't know why no-one wants to try the new nation. I'll give it a shot, instead of CTis. Should give me as good a chance at an early death as taking CTis http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

Edit: I came up with a random map for this game, and I've attached it. I think it will work well for 10 players, with either 9 land + 1 sea, or 10 land. It's attached. Please tell me if you see any problems with it. I used DrPraetorious's perl script to pick the starting locations.

Re: Aran
 

Keep the water provinces. It's good if someone want to take a wyrm or summon amphibian troops.

Pangaea, Eriu, Vanheim = a lot of stealthy nations !!! Be ready to be raided !

Re: Aran
 

OK...I'll be Tir na n'Og.

Re: Aran
 

Tir na n'og is EA i believe ? May be you meant Eriu but vfb wanted to try it. Unless vfb switch back to C'tis ?

Re: Aran
 

Oh....I didn't know..It sounds from his post he wanted C'tis. OK...I'll be Ulm instead.

Re: Newb Network EA Aran (Full)
 

Heh, I started reading this thread after I found it via the map download in the new game you're starting... very informative!

Good, I have these in my game aswell and I'm surprised that they do anything even if you didn't intend to have them as victory condition. How come that do they pop up on the map? Can they be turned off at all?

Heh, you know what, I used the exact same thing when I wrote my MP Game statistics PHP script which is being used in my game and Velusion's games. I made a couple of guesses about the game purely by looking at the game files, but because of a few quirks I later had to settle for workarounds: Save the *.2h file sizes for comparison instead of looking at the timestamps, and looking at the scores.html files to determine if a nation has been defeated (dominion 0). I no longer need this filesystem-based method since I found on this board how to request the turn status from the server remotely just like the client does nowadays, though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

Re: Newb Network EA Aran (Full)
 

I poked at the vp a little bit, before real life got in the way.

It looked like they get added if you start the game as a server. Probably not if you start it as PBEM. It probably should get reported as a bug.

Re: Newb Network EA Aran (Full)
 

lch said:I tried to do this in the .map but it didn't help, I still got crowns:

#victorycondition 0

I'd love to do that! Is that what the scripts in your dom3stats-1.0.rar do now? If not, can you please point me to the thread?

Re: Newb Network EA Aran (Full)
 

I'm still working on it, it will take some more days to release. I have working proof-of-concept code, though. At the meantime, you could use the filebased version. I intend to make them compatible with each other in a sense that you can plug the socket-based code where you were using the filesystem-based code before and vice versa.

I've got the link to the thread where JK describes the communication protocol from MarcinM who created the Dom3 Status monitor which I "fixed" for Linux/Mono. WraithLord programmed a command-line interface coded in Python, too, which is sadly only released in binary format.

Re: Newb Network EA Aran (Full)
 

Thanks, Ich!

Re: Newb Network EA Aran (Full)
 

Will this be getting it's own thread?

Re: Newb Network EA Aran (Full)
 

If you mean vfb's new game, then yes, he already has a new thread. Or do you mean my "remote PHP stats" script?

EDIT: Nevermind, I noticed that you're already playing in that game aswell. How many games are you playing simultaneously?? I'm limiting myself to four, and it already makes my mind boggle. You should restrict yourself to playing fewer games and doing more awesome write-ups! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: Newb Network EA Aran (Full)
 

All i really have time for are turns it seems. I try not to over think my games so my turns generally go quick. My write-ups take several hours a piece, and those are short compared to the other crap I write. I think I'm playing four right now, with two more possibly atarting soon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif