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Gandalf Parker May 5th, 2007 03:19 PM

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You mean like my list before I pulled out? I think I was in 3rd place and would have gotten my picks.
early pangaee
middle pangaee
early ulm
middle man
tir na nog
early maverni
early oceania
middle marignon

Personally I would tend to avoid any nation being heavily discussed in the IRC channel. Anything with the proper method of play being so completely laid out would be boring to me. And particularly unfun if you get it "wrong".

I kindof expected the experts to take their favorite topics so they can prove their points but it doesnt look like thats happening. Makes me wonder if they are avoiding those for the same reason.

LeSquide May 5th, 2007 03:23 PM

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With a game this big 'properly' following a tier 1 strategy might not even work; besides the possibility of getting ganked six ways from Sunday for playing a really competitive Lanka, there might be someone coming out of left field that has that strategy's number.

Foodstamp May 5th, 2007 03:25 PM

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I picked 3 strong ones, and 3 I have a soft spot for. All 6 I like so if I luck out and get the strong ones great http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. I have never had the chance to play a very strong nation in MP play, but if I get one of my other 3 choices, I will not be disappointed either. 2 of those 3 are pretty competitive and the other one I think I can make work http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Wikd Thots May 5th, 2007 03:32 PM

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Quote:

Gandalf Parker said:
You mean like my list before I pulled out? I think I was in 3rd place and would have gotten my picks.

I wondered about that. Gandy says he playsj but you don't know him, Velusion razzs him on it, and suddenly one of the players dropped out. Ticked off G? Were you going to try MP?

Teraswaerto May 5th, 2007 04:05 PM

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I gather I can still change or update my list before the deadline? Mainly add a few to the list, there are too many nations I really don't want to risk getting totally random assignment.

Evilhomer May 5th, 2007 04:07 PM

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My hat is off for those who dare to go the random path. However just like you tero I don't want to risk getting stuck with a nation i dislike.

Velusion May 5th, 2007 04:34 PM

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Quote:

Teraswaerto said:
I gather I can still change or update my list before the deadline? Mainly add a few to the list, there are too many nations I really don't want to risk getting totally random assignment.

Yep - feel free.

Gandalf Parker May 5th, 2007 04:44 PM

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With the vote tally posted I would guess that everyone might redo their lists.

@wicked:
Actually Ive played MP with pretty much the best players that Dom has to offer. And this one will be interesting but Im also one of the few people who has played in a game this large already.

jutetrea May 5th, 2007 05:06 PM

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If you've got the time Gandalf I think you should play... either as a whipping horse or to show all us whippersnappers what's up.

I think it'd be fun to hear "Gandalfs picking on MEEEE!" on the thread! "Gandalfs coming, run away!" Or everyone gangs up on you and we still get a chuckle. If you have the time and inclination I think you should be part of it.

Shovah32 May 5th, 2007 05:40 PM

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I think gandalf should play too, im just not sure why i think this. Probably because he has the most experience on large maps

Baalz May 5th, 2007 05:42 PM

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Quote:

Velusion said:
And of course there is a small but not insignificant number of players that choose the "Random" route.

So, just curious do the random picks have a random first choice assigned, or do they get the "leftover" pics after everyone else? Seems fairer to go with the former so they don't just get a nation nobody else would claim.

So I'm guessing I'm unlikely to get my 4th choice of Lanka...;)

Velusion May 5th, 2007 05:43 PM

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Quote:

Baalz said:
Quote:

Velusion said:
And of course there is a small but not insignificant number of players that choose the "Random" route.

So, just curious do the random picks have a random first choice assigned, or do they get the "leftover" pics after everyone else? Seems fairer to go with the former so they don't just get a nation nobody else would claim.

So I'm guessing I'm unlikely to get my 4th choice of Lanka...;)

The get leftovers. And your assumption is pretty accurate. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Gandalf Parker May 5th, 2007 07:13 PM

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Quote:

jutetrea said:
If you've got the time Gandalf I think you should play... either as a whipping horse or to show all us whippersnappers what's up.

I think it'd be fun to hear "Gandalfs picking on MEEEE!" on the thread! "Gandalfs coming, run away!" Or everyone gangs up on you and we still get a chuckle. If you have the time and inclination I think you should be part of it.

I play fairly often but Im afraid that you wont be hearing "Gandalfs picking om MEEEE!" if I can avoid it. When I join, I dont join as Gandalf. The only people who have played me as Gandalf are the devs and the beta-testers.

Velusion May 5th, 2007 09:36 PM

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Since a mod is already going to be needed for this game - if anyone has a mod that fixes a known verified bugs and has been tested - post the link here so we can include it in the "all-in-one" mod.

CelestialGoblyn May 6th, 2007 01:03 PM

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I want to play too!

Velusion May 6th, 2007 02:25 PM

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Quote:

CelestialGoblyn said:
I want to play too!

We'd be glad to have you but just remember: sign-ups are only "certified" once I receive (via email or PM) your nation preference list (even if you don't have a preference) and your password.

Foodstamp May 6th, 2007 02:27 PM

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Wow, possibly 50ish if we are waiting on a couple to turn in their passwords and preferences, this is going to be a fun game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Velusion May 6th, 2007 02:31 PM

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Quote:

Foodstamp said:
Wow, possibly 50ish if we are waiting on a couple to turn in their passwords and preferences, this is going to be a fun game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Yep, and we still have 6 days left for sign-ups! It's not out of the realm of possibility that we fill up. I have three people who have expressed interest and still waiting on one password...

Cor May 7th, 2007 02:11 PM

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I cant decide, give me a random nation. I like the sound of that population bonus.

Fate May 7th, 2007 05:09 PM

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I don't know. I thought the random pick meant that you were willing to take literally any nation in exchange for the population bonus of being last seed. Otherwise someone who chose all random might get the pick of someone who just chose 1 (which defies the meaning of a pick).

If you really don't want to get stuck with a bad nation, make a list of every nation and put the worst ones at the bottom. Your chances of getting one will be next to nill (especially if everyone else chose ~4 favorites).

StrictlyRockers May 7th, 2007 06:40 PM

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I sent an email to sign up a while ago.

I vote in favor of Nexus ban.

I vote against Utterdark ban.

I vote for Difficult research.

I prefer early age.

Cor May 7th, 2007 06:48 PM

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Quote:

Fate said:
I don't know. I thought the random pick meant that you were willing to take literally any nation in exchange for the population bonus of being last seed. Otherwise someone who chose all random might get the pick of someone who just chose 1 (which defies the meaning of a pick).

If you really don't want to get stuck with a bad nation, make a list of every nation and put the worst ones at the bottom. Your chances of getting one will be next to nill (especially if everyone else chose ~4 favorites).

Yeah sorry, thats what i meant. I will take whatever crap you give me, as long as i get a pop bonus. It not like I am going to win anyway. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

DrPraetorious May 7th, 2007 07:13 PM

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Here's a question.

Suppose that my choices 1-4 go in the first round.

On the second round, do I get my #5 choice or do I have to wait for round 5?

Do I get +20% population or +5% population?

Salamander8 May 7th, 2007 07:44 PM

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I'm quite green for MP games, but this massive endeavor sounds like it could be very enjoyable. I would very much like to join this game, and I've already DLed the map. I'll send my projected password and such in a PM shortly.

FAJ May 7th, 2007 07:44 PM

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As I have read it:

Every round your highest available choice is your 'ticket' for that round. You will get your ticket if you are randomly selected from the people who have it, or if you are the only one with that ticket.

If you have your 1-4 choices taken in the 1st round, your 5th choice will be your ticket in the second seed. you will get +5% if you get it then. if you dont, you will go to your next number. If you run out of choices, you get a random one when all seeds are done.

Thats how i interpreted it.

Velusion May 7th, 2007 07:47 PM

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Quote:

StrictlyRockers said:
I sent an email to sign up a while ago.

I vote in favor of Nexus ban.

I vote against Utterdark ban.

I vote for Difficult research.

I prefer early age.

I responded to your message Strictly and mentioned you a few times in the this thread... I need the password you will use. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Velusion May 7th, 2007 07:48 PM

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DrP:

See below:

Quote:

Velusion said:
Also - there has been some questions on the seeding process.

Namely: "So if get my forth pick on my list then I'm automatically going to get %20 extra pop on my capital?"

No. Or at least - not necessarily. How it works:

After the first seed I look at the remaining players and *discard* all nations from preferences that have already been assigned in the first seed. So... for example:

Player A choices:
Vanheim MA
Niefelhiem EA
Pythium
MA Marignon

Player B choices
Neifelhiem EA
MA Ermor
MA Miclan
MA Oceania

Player C choices:
Pythium
EA Abysia
Tir na n'Og

Player D Choices:
MA Vanheim
MA Caelum

Player E Choices:
(none)

Would resolve like such:

Seed 1
Player B auto gets Nifelheim (no conflict)
Player C auto gets Pythium (no conflict)
Player A vs. Player D - Player D wins the random roll off and gets MA Vanheim

Seed 2
Player A auto gets MA Marignon (no conflict)

Seed 3
Player E gets a random assignment.

Now this is going to much more complicated with 62 players - but keep in mind if you pick the most popular choices, even if your list is long you still probably won't get into a low seed.

I would be surprised if lowest seed is higher than 6.


Gandalf Parker May 7th, 2007 09:34 PM

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If you have not built your god and assigned a password to it when you saved the file then simply respond that you will use "no password". He is not asking for anything particularly personal. Just the password of your pretender, if you gave it one.

lch May 7th, 2007 09:38 PM

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Everybody should use a password, always. Everybody can see who is using passwords and who isn't when they connect to the server in the console window, after all.

Tyrant May 7th, 2007 10:07 PM

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Two questions about the map- Is it wrap around? Are any of the small bodies of water no-start?

BigDisAwesome May 7th, 2007 10:35 PM

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Just sent you the email with all my info.

Velusion May 7th, 2007 11:23 PM

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Quote:

Tyrant said:
Two questions about the map- Is it wrap around? Are any of the small bodies of water no-start?

It is not wrap-around and all of the small disconnected lakes are marked "no start".

Velusion May 8th, 2007 04:07 PM

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We have 3 days until start and there are only 10 spots left!

For those still on the fence - time and availability is running out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Velusion May 8th, 2007 04:13 PM

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Quote:

Gandalf Parker said:
If you have not built your god and assigned a password to it when you saved the file then simply respond that you will use "no password". He is not asking for anything particularly personal. Just the password of your pretender, if you gave it one.

I second Ich. If you forget and create your pretender god with no password (it's very easy to do), provided we haven't started yet - take the time to recreate the god with a password and re-upload. I've already been in a couple games were a player didn't do this and there was always a lingering temptation (perhaps justified) to blame someone else when orders don't get resolved properly.

Please try and avoid this by using a password.

Evilhomer May 8th, 2007 04:17 PM

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Maybe we should do a sign up in 1 day and get a 5% pop bonus drive http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Jazzepi May 8th, 2007 06:53 PM

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1% sounds fine to me for an early bird bonus http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

It should make a big difference in the long term with good scales since it's exponential growth.

Jazzepi

Manuk May 9th, 2007 05:38 PM

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one final desire: wrap around map.

I believe that Gandalf has a big one.

Also
Utterdark=on
Arcane Nexus=on or off is ok with me

Velusion May 9th, 2007 05:52 PM

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Quote:

Manuk said:
one final desire: wrap around map.


One day I'd like to use a good natural looking huge 1000+ wraparound map, but I've yet to see one I really like.

I'm picky about the maps I like - both from functional and aesthetic standpoints.

lch May 9th, 2007 06:03 PM

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Although I've decided that I won't play in this (maybe as a sub later), I can only second this: To make it a little more balanced, use a wraparound map. That way everybody is surrounded by enemies and others have a better access to him in case he gets too strong and they want to ally against him.

Cor May 9th, 2007 06:07 PM

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I would have to say that a reach around...er... wrap around would be a very very good idea. But I will play either way, and if the host wants this map, that is fine with me. His server, his rules.

Velusion May 9th, 2007 06:12 PM

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Hey, if you have a good looking 1000 province wrap around map post it here. I doubt I have time to tweak it for this game but it would be nice to have for the future.

I'm not a big fan of Gandalf's map - specifically the color palate and the water provinces.

Velusion May 9th, 2007 09:16 PM

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I'm going to be putting the final touches on the custom mod for this game. If you have a tested mod that fixes a known bug please post the link for it here.

HoneyBadger May 10th, 2007 02:40 AM

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hey I'll play-or atleast I'll try to-sending email now

RamsHead May 10th, 2007 03:46 AM

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I want to change my vote from very difficult research to just difficult research.

Velusion May 10th, 2007 03:57 AM

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Quote:

RamsHead said:
I want to change my vote from very difficult research to just difficult research.

Got it.

Velusion May 10th, 2007 04:01 AM

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There have been a lot of changes in preferences of late. I should have replied to all those that changed their minds with a confirmation. If you didn't get a quick confirmation from me resend them please.

For those that didn't change their minds, your confirmation is that you are listed on the first post! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Baalz May 10th, 2007 08:05 AM

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http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...o=&fpart=1

Looks like there is a 100,000 unit limit, have you run into this Gandalf?

atul May 10th, 2007 10:39 AM

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Heh, 100k units is less than 2000 units per nation, which is probably something this game's going to hit before long. Want to get big? Better start killing people, fast. *g*

By the way, what's the indy strength? Didn't see it in the first post, and it's bound to affect nation designs at least a bit.

Velusion May 10th, 2007 12:25 PM

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Quote:

Edi said:
100k total. So the more nations, the smaller the total each nation can have assuming they all had an equal number of units.


Hmmm this could be a big problem...

Evilhomer May 10th, 2007 12:31 PM

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Hehe, I can see people ganging up on LA r'lyeh and LA ermor cause they can't build troops anymore


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