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In my opinion the best times to upload your files is after everyone else has upped theirs. Then when you up yours you can efectively wait for one minute and then play the next turn. Then the cycle starts over again.

Definitly the most convinient way to play.

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It's good to have you back Baal - well until your attack fleets set my planets ablaze...

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The Terran Federation is moving on up - from 7th to 4th in just a matter of a few turns. But I don't think I'm anywhere near Dragonlord...

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I think I am going to catch Dragonlord pretty quick now. I did a little exploring, and found what one might call a tresure trove. And, it's all mine.

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Most of the surrounding area around my systems is dead space. Lots of systems - but little or nothing to be found.

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I have found a lot of dead systems too. I just keep going though. I made some extreme range explorers that hold 5500 supplies, and I just keep sending them farther out.

My little trove is, needless to say, going to take a few months to reach with a colony ship.

Maybe I should have explored with colony ships.

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My empire is stalled. For the Last 4 turns my colonising fleet has been travelling to the only other colonisable system I found so far. But to keep my mineral stockpile from decreasing too fast I had four planetary shipyards just sitting there, not building anything. That never happened to me before in this early stage of a game I am usually rich enough to keep on building, even if its mines or such.
Oh well, at least I have some armed destroyers with me in case I run into someone else http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Mine is stalled too, but only because we're waiting for Spoogy :P

I've been running negatives in radiactives and organics for a while, but my stockpiles are OK so I'll just throw up more producers some time.

Phoenix-D

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Sorry for the delay. Uploading now. I still have positive production in all areas, looking forward to the next turn.

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Well, I'm not running much of a debt anymore either. -1 lol. I'll be broke in, oh, a couple hundred centuries http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Phoenix-D

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This game suddenly got a little more interesting for Phoenix-D and I. I have finally found another human player. It has me kind of on edge.

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Yeah, it "only" took us 31 turns to make contact :P

Phoenix-D

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I have not found any human players yet (as you know) but today I discovered the first aliens. It's the ligh colored greens (whatever their name is, Kyrat or such) but unfortunately they occupy the same atmosphere rocks as I do.
I have succeeded in colonizing the juicy system I mentioned a few days ago, and to stabilise my mineral production, though I fear it delayed other efforts. I had to spend 3 turns researching minerals II so I could upgrade my home planet's miners.
I would love to explore further, but am a bit paranoid. On my frontier are two nebulae, and I am afraid that if I send my small exploratory force through it, a human player will slip by me and attack my recently established colonies. Oh well, such are the challenges of SEIV http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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You're worried about that?

Load up the turn after I first contact you.

Look in your northern area..

notice the frigite parked there? http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Also: solar panels don't work as well as I'd hoped.

Phoenix-D

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What worries me is that I might lose population. That is my main concern, keeping my race alive and well. And all those ships just popped out of no where.

I suppose that I should be a tad more worried about meeting Dragonlord. That guy has quite an economic backbone.

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Me, I just find it pathetic that my first losses were not from humans, but from a pair of ships from those blue idiots. Embarassing.

Oh well, they gave my race something to vent on.

Phoenix-D

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Thus far, I'm enjoying my game - but a little disappointed at the lack of good habitable planets in my region. Perhaps my unique location makes up for it though.

[This message has been edited by capt_spoogy (edited 03 July 2001).]

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WARNING: I'm off to work for 7-8 hours so I would not recommend staying by the computer waiting for me to send in my turn.

Hey Spoogy, you should trade some ships for an alien transport that is parked around their homeworld. The computer always loads up the transports with population when they are around the homeworld. That could help you out if you have colonized a lot of Carbon Dioxide planets.

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I hope Baal can put in a few turns later tonight, I am getting bored. Finally made first contact with a human player Last turn, and curious to see what kind of relationship this will turn into.

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Sorry for the delay. I work that long night shift, so I pretty much inactive between 6pm EST to 2 pm EST the next day. But I'll always try to get as many turns in as I can during the 4 hours I'm home.

I'm in Canada, so no independence holiday for me - we just had ours on Sunday. We should be able to do lots of turns again this saturday...

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Delay is NP.. the other game's been cranking out the turns today, don't think I could have handled both.

You work Mon-Fri?

Phoenix-D

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I work TUE-THU and one FRI a month. I really don't mind the 12hr shifts, actually I kind of like getting the 4 days off in between.

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Well, I think it's official that everyone has encountered another human player. It took a while longer for me as I have an usual position on the map. I cannot reveal more about it, but it's cool - although I'm curious about the goings on outside my area...

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Newbie 1 seems to head for conflict eventually between me and the 2nd place player (Nostro race). For now we remain peaceful though.

Phoenix, in Newbie II it suddenly takes the server at least 30 minutes to process turns, unlike the 3 minutes or so it used to be. Any idea why?

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I believe they are preparing to move to a faster server, so it might be related to that.



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Ya know you might be right. But I'm not the number 2 player anymore. I've been pushing my score for the Last 10 turns and I find that it is quite hard to catch another players score.

I just kind of wish that everyone was aggressive so that we actually got in war causing disagreements. Maybe that's a byproduct of having only 4 human players, and no other expanding empires.

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Baal, you're right, you surpassed me and am now number 1. You got some impressive resource production going on. Have you met Phoenix yet in the game? I wonder if he could be of any help to me http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif Because in 6-8 turns as you begin expanding westwards you'll run into me.

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Baal, you're right, you surpassed me and are now number 1. You got some impressive resource production going on. Have you met Phoenix yet in the game? I wonder if he could be of any help to me http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif Because in 6-8 turns as you begin expanding westwards you'll run into me.

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Oops sorry for the double post, I saw a typo in the first one and thought I hit "stop" in time before the post was actually made. Oh well.

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The newbie 2 delay probably had something to do with the turn execustion barfing on us..

Phoenix-D

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I don't mind Newbie 2 slowing down a bit; it looks like it's starting to become more of a thinking game now what with the trading and negotiating that's starting to pick up.

Not that those 15-turn evenings weren't fun, of course. I just worry that if I take time to think I'll be holding everyone else back. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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I don't know if I am going to expand that way. There may not be a whole lot of planets I would like to have. I really only go for breathable planets.

I have met Phoenix. We talked for a bit, setting up some borders. We haven't had any recent communications. I'm afraid he might be building a large armada to attack me with. I hope that I am ready for his onslaught. Maybe I should sign a treaty with him...

EDIT: By the way, in one hour from this post I'm off to work for 8 hours. Just a heads up for ya guys.

[This message has been edited by Baal (edited 07 July 2001).]

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Actually, the negotiations in Newbie 2 are almost going TOO fast http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif By the time a message explaining my situation is recived, another message proposing something ELSE is sent.

Meanwhile my minefields have 30mT worth of kills :-)

Phoenix-D

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Baal:

I just kind of wish that everyone was aggressive so that we actually got in war causing disagreements. Maybe that's a byproduct of having only 4 human players, and no other expanding empires.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

/ooc Baal, be careful what you wish for in Newbie 1 :-) /end ooc.

I am happy to report that the very first battle in history between Dragon ships and ships from another sentient race (the Nostro, ruled by Baal) has been fought. It was a glorious day for the Dragons!

Baal and I have been contesting possesion of a system occupied by a neutral race. I had initially given him control of it, while I was building up planets and a fleet. When I saw that he was rising fast in the rankings, and even pushed the dragons out of their rightful position of no. 1 ;-) I decided to take action.

While I was sending my fleet at top-speed to the contested zone, Baal had colonised a planet there and had enough time to build a resupply depot, and apparantly, mines !
Unbeknowst to the poor Nostro ships, my entire fleet (including support ships) was soon cloaked and sitting right next to him. After a message had been sent in which we broke our tentative non-agression pact, a full scale attack was launched. However, the Nostro fleet was refueling at the time at the colony outpost, and mines had been launched just in time to provide the Nostro with added protection. Sadly, my fleet contained no minesweepers, a mistake which will not happen again.

Badly damaged from the mines, with most of their armor blown away, my five attack ships limped towards the enemy, while my support ships retreated. After a brief exchange of fire, all seven Nostro destroyers perished, while my forces lost only one destroyer.
The colony outpost followed the same fate shortly afterwards.
Then two sectors away we spotted another two ships on the way back to Nostro territory. We destroyed these too, for good measure. The remaining two Nostro ships (one destroyer and one repair ship) were too far away, and were seen fleeing the scene in the next month. We conclude that the battle was won through the element of surprise and superior weapons.

The contested system now remains under firm Dragon control, with Alpha fleet on patrol.
Now that we have demonstrated that our territorial claims are not to be trifled with, Messages have been sent to the Nostro empire via diplomatic courier to re-establish a semblance of peace. We hope that they have learned their lesson and stay in their part of the galaxy.

Signed,
Emperor Avatar the Dragonlord

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OK, slight problem here guys.

My main comptuer just went splat. It can run for ~45 seconds, then stops. If I turn it off, then turn it back on, I get no video signal unless I remove/replace the VGA cable.. then I get the 45 second problem again.

This makes playing SE4 rather difficult. Just to make things interesting, I don't remember my password!

Phoenix-D

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Found the problem. My GeForce 2 is on the fritz it seems. The AI may have to take over for a day or two.

Phoenix-D

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Sorry to hear about your problems, Phoenix. I hope you will be able to solve them soon.
Am a little bit confused over something: turns are processed on the PBW server, not on the machine of the host player, right?
All you have as host is a master password and the ability to add/replace players?

Are you saying you will let the AI run your race for two days on Newbie I and II?
Although that would ensure we maintain the large number of turns/day (especially at night it seems), be aware that I've heard the AI can really mess up your empire...

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PBW runs the turns, correct.

The thing it, it's also on a timer. Miss a turn, and the AI plays that turn for you. Time limit is 24 hours.

In any case, I *THINK* I have the problem solved.

Phoenix-D

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I'm still hoping Baal will post his views on the battle we fought :-)

Phoenix, good to see you're back in the game.

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Sneak attacks are best.

No one is ever your ally or even friendly.

That's my view.

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Baal and Dragonlord - You two guys are going good. Almost 300k points - compared to me in third with 120k. It's going to be one hell of a war.

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Mineral planets are best!

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How is it that you can see my score Spoogy but I can not see yours?

It may come in handy for me in the future.

EDIT: By the way it will probably be a short war for me 'cause I have crappy ships that Dragonlord can just blow out of the water. I've been wasting my time researching crappy tech, like Applied Political Science and Shields.

[This message has been edited by Baal (edited 09 July 2001).]

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Shields are by no means crappy http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif In newbie 2, Im blowing the heck out of the Eee with decade-old ships mounting Meson BLaster IIs.

They deal less damage, but the Eee shielding REALLY sucks. Well, that and overwhelming numbers.. 37 on one, you're pretty much screwed.

Phoenix-D

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Well Dragonlord is using PPBs and I don't have the research output to make phased shielding worth while.

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Baal - through observation. I've been in contact with Dragonlord and I know you and him and switching back and forth (as he keeps going from 1st to 2nd).

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Currently, I find myself contained by the massive empires of Dragonlord and Baal. Well, at least they're not allies...

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Nope, Baal and I are in a quasi-war.
My biggest problem now is the long supply lines I have toward my front..I colonised some stuff near the front but it takes time to build up infrastructure there. Meanwhile I am very curious what Baal is up to...he just scarificed a ship (knowingly, I assume) against my patrol fleet, I guess so he could find out what components I use on ships http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Actually that was to see what was beyond that warp point.

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(**(&*))*()##

I just lost two LC's to Baal's minelayer. All along I thought it was an observer ship http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon9.gif Now I find out he layed mines all over the contested system. The Nostro will pay for this !
Allies, please join me in the mourning of my lost crewmen :-(