Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

same thing im fine with both

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

OT as far as this game's victory conditions go, but worth pursuing to me since I like dominion based games:

Generally, I'd argue that dominion victory favoring blood nations is less imbalancing than, for example, province victory or VP victory favoring bless nations (in early game) or air/astral nations (in later game stages).

Specifically for MA games, who in the MA can really push blood effectively?

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

Abyssia. I've done a pretty wicked dominion push with demon breds wielding jade daggers (empowered an indie nature mage with blood). Spreads heat wicked fast, plus you can air drop them way behind enemy lines. Give them a couple fire gems to summon a fire elemental and drop them in pairs and they'll take out moderate PD, then the Abyssian PD will hold against any half *** attempts to clear you out. You only need to hold a few turns to swing the dominion 10 points if you've got a good dominion score. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

I wouldn't consdier this strat imbalanced for a dominion victory game, as there's lots of opportunity costs here, no? Abysia's got capital-only blood hunters, and Demonbreds are expensive. I'd have no problem if this type of investment led to victory, and I am sure there are other nations that could pursue dominion-pushing strategies that are either as competitive or cheaper to pursue, or counter this strat by Abysia specifically.

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

You don't need to do air drops do use blood sacrifice for dominion spreading, it'll radiate outward even from deep within your borders.

Of course, cheap temples of Man and Pangaea might also be considered an advantage.

I think any kind of victory condition will always favor some nation or nations. That said, I don't have a problem playing in games with such settings, someone's going to win no matter what the settings are. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

Oh, I wasn't really commenting on an imbalance, I just couldn't resist answering your question on who could push a blood sacrifice in MA as I'd recently don't that myself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif I will say I play blood nations a lot (often with high dominion) and I've never seen anyone move dominion half as fast as when I start dumping blood slaves into that. As I mention though, haven't been in a dominion victory game so I don't really have an opinion on if that's unbalanced.

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

Understood! I didn't mean to imply that you were. I am trying to identify balance issues with dominion victory conditions, and I appreciate your response. I think Abysia is about the only one that can push blood sacrifice like that in MA.

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

Okay, the game will now start automatically as soon as Ulm's pretender is in (tomorrow morning Europe time, apparently). Let's hope I didn't screw anything up...

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

We're off! Good luck everyone. You should all have received your first turn file at the e-mail address you sent your pretender from.

The first turn has a 48 hour timer, in case of problems - after that we're on to 24 hours.

I'm going away for the weekend in a few hours, to visit my girlfriend's parents. I'm allowed to take my turns (she actually finds it quite interesting), but strictly forbidden from doing anything server related. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif So, I hope there are no problems. If you get stuck working out how to play your turn or something, please post here and I'm sure the other players will help.

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

I just did my first turn with no problems (eager? who me?)

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

Excellent.

Would someone mind PMing any players who haven't taken their first turns after 24 hours? Thanks.

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

turn done everything worked ok http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

Good stuff. By the way everyone, don't forget you can look at www.llamaserver.net to see who's taken their turn, when the next turn is due etc..

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

Good luck everyone.

I ask only 1 thing, please don't rip my wings off, I am rather attached to them don't you know.

You can do anything else, just mind the wings, we are not flys you know, to be tortured for idle amusement by ripping our wings off... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Re: Armadillo - new game (recruiting)
 

All Hail the Lawgiver, Lord of Light!

He has seen the wisdom in this request. Wings were given some beasts for men to admire.

Wings were given some beast so that they would not toil the land. The Lawgiver does not condone of toiling men. All men should be free to work when they feel like it. Wings is a way to say that work can be avoided and they shall not be ripped off.

Thus, there is now a ban against the ripping of wings!

All Hail the Lawgiver, Lord of Light!

Possible delay....
 

Just a heads up that I may not be able to get my turns in on time in the next few days...

We just had like the 50 year storm in Newcastle, Australia.....power was knocked out for 18 hours...It's only just come back...but no guarentees as another big front is about to hit.

Would it be possible to set the turn timer to 48 hrs temporarily?

Really sorry so early in the game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Re: Possible delay....
 

The high priests of Mictlan wishes it to be known that the storm is caused by GrayZ, Rider of the Clouds.

All hail the Lawgiver, Lord of Light!


- I'm OK with a slight delay. The Lawgiver is a patient God http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Possible delay....
 

GE - done (stealthily!)

Re: Possible delay....
 

For your info, I had a nasty bug with one of the heroes( the sentient hydra) in Version 1_7 of my worthy heroes mod that gave him the wrong and pretty overpowered domsummon. It affects EA Sauromatia, MA C´tis and Pythium.
The fixed version is uploaded here:
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...o=&fpart=1

Re: Possible delay....
 

That's me on a good day. Anger me, and you'll meet the Earth monster. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: Possible delay....
 

Sorry, I was out of town this weekend and forgot to mention it in the games I was in, luckily it looks like we didn't host without me!

Re: Possible delay....
 

GameExtremist says things are fixed post-storm, so we're going back to 24 hours.

Everyone note: the next turn will have ##24 hours##.

Re: Possible delay....
 

The Lawgiver wishes it to be known that Storms and Clouds are treated with due respect in His kingdom. The previously common practice of making rude gestures directed at clouds has been forbidden for several days.

There is no need for the Earth Monster to appear. Not that the priests of Mictlan has anything against Earth Monsters. Earth Monsters are probably the nicest of all Monsters. Except Monster Toads that is.

Re: Possible delay....
 

Lord Flasheart supreme ruler of Caelum likes clouds and storms make us go all funny and tingly. We love storms.

Many people say Caelum has its head in the clouds. This is of course a complete lie, our eyes are fixed firmly on the gound looking for prey...

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Why is it this "storm" and "clouds" you keep speaking of scares you so? Hereby we gladly extend an invitation to anyone willing to come visit our lands to discover the danger inherent to yellowish mists and heavy, fetid, unmoving air. A danger our genetically superior race is obviously immune to...

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Damn, talk about a crowded game. Already Ulm shows up in the province next to my capitol. Probably lured there by the... uhm... pitoresque... smell permeating the place.

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http://xs216.xs.to/xs216/07243/Pythium.gif

Pythium is a nation of order: do not interfere.

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Why on earth did you build your capital next to Ulm's province? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Pythium does not understand the real meaning of order, as perfect order only exists in the void.

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A quick comment about the server: The website's being a bit up-and-down, annoyingly. I'm working on a fix, but have to wait for someone else to do something at their end before I can do anything. BUT the website is a separate entity from the server itself, which is still working even when the webpage is down.

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> Pythium does not understand the real meaning of order, as perfect order only exists in the void

That is nonsense! Perfect order exists where the Lawgiver reigns, in Mictlan.

Hmm, 'void' you say. Why would there be order in the void? Sounds like you have been misled by insane prophets of R'lyeh! Is Pythium allready falling to the lure of the void?

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Order is found in ones self for chaos accompanies external direction. Be led astray neither by the lure of a paternalistic confinement, nor the opiate of the void. Only from inner reflection can enlightenment be found, seek truth within yourself.

Let us meditate on this.

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The void is nothing, and the mind is lost without guidance. It is the ever-moving spheres of heaven that, with proper interpretation, reveal the nature of truth. Eternal and divine, their light leads us.

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Bah! While you are philosophing away, we are building an Empire. An Empire where everyone can stand in line.

All line up before the Lawgiver, Lord of Light!

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There is no other law than the law of steel. Everybody knows this! And if they do not know they will soon be taught by the soldiers of Ulm; bringers of law, bringers of steel.

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Steel ...
What is this new invention?
It will but cause turmoil and strife.

Three materials was given us by the Lawgiver:
Iron for the war, Copper for the Sun and Obsidian for the Moon.

Steel has no use.
Steel is the invention of godless peoples.
Steel will cause your downfall.
Steel is banned by the Law.

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Those who look for order in the void will waste their lives looking for it, trying to understand.

Those who look for order in contemplation will find out that they wasted their lives doing nothing, and have become too old and too unused to action to implement anything they learned.

Those who narrow order down to the letter of the law, and narrow the law down to the power of steel, will lead short and violent lives, and accomplish no order, but only chaos.

Those looking for order should come visit the great city of C'tis, and see the workings of our society, where everyone knows his place from the moment he is born to the moment he lays down his life in the service of his people.

Problem
 

Hmmm I seem to have some problems with my turns. It looks I stale every even turn although I send them in time...

Re: Problem
 

Oh dear, that sounds quite serious. Hang on a sec...

Right, well it definitely never received a turn 4 e-mail from you. And there have been no problems with the server that I know of (the website is a different issue entirely).

Erm, things to check: Can you find a turn 4 e-mail in your sent-mail? Perhaps it somehow didn't send it. And was it definitely to the correct address?

I can't think of anything else to be honest. All I can say is if you're concerned about it it might be worth double checking your e-mail ten minutes after you take a turn to see that you've got a receipt e-mail. Or you could send each e-mail twice I suppose. But it shouldn't be necessary.

Please let me know if you ever get the problem again. Very strange - e-mails should get through to the server just as reliably as to any other address. And the server will always always reply to an e-mail, even if there was no turn attached.

Re: Problem
 

If you send them right, you should get a confirmation mail from the server.

Rlyeh does not understand how other nations think about order. Order has nothing to do with submission or materials. Order is a state of mind, when you are no longer are troubled by worldly things.

Re: Problem
 

Hmmm this turn I had to send twice. Will send them now every half an hour until I receive the confirmation of the server.
And here the messages to Vanheim and Bandar Log: Please stand away from the provinces 222 and 227 as they are considered Machanke hunting ground!

Re: Problem
 

them? are u sending the .trn and the .2h file? You only need to send the .2h file. (if you sent both, it might disturb the script on the server)

Re: Problem
 

cupido2 - erm, odd. Well, I hope it won't happen again. The problem's not at my end, your e-mail just isn't arriving.

Re: Problem
 

No, of course I only send the .2h file. Never had this problem in a pbem-game. But I will do fine.

Re: Possible delay....
 

The armies of Mictlan have fled in defeat after intruding on Eriu's territory.

Mictlans puny slings have no effect on Sidhe when Grayz' blessing both deflects the rocks from the air and protects from their blows.

The law giver has angered the Earth monster, and his armies will take their revenge.

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For some unknown reason I didn't receive the new turn e-mail today. A second try to send it would be nice...

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Resent.

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Yep, it arrived just fine now. Thanks.

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> The armies of Mictlan have fled in defeat after intruding on Eriu's territory.

> Mictlans puny slings have no effect on Sidhe when Grayz' blessing both deflects the rocks from the air and protects from their blows.

> The law giver has angered the Earth monster, and his armies will take their revenge.

The misled people of Mictlan prostrates themselves before the wrath of the Earth Monster. All Hail the Earth Monster!

The Priest Kings of Mictlan humbly begs the allmighty GrayZ to spare the people of Mictlan, led astray by a false god that havn't even shown his face. Promises of Law and order has turned to naught but war and strife. The priests of Mictlan defecate on the tomb of their false pretender.

All Hail the Earth Monster!

Re: Possible delay....
 

Right, following Amhazair's request, I've now added an option on the website to have your turn resent. On the Armadillo page, you can now click on 'Request turn resend', select your nation, and your turn will be sent again a few minutes later. Not that I expect you'll need it - this is the first time a turn file hasn't got through. But I thought it might be a useful option.