Re: In the North country
 

I find myself agree with Lingchih. It's not like other games where you have to deal with fifteen or so people for your diplomacy move, so I found myself enjoying this relax yet fast paced game. I suppose we can continue 24hours for some more times, and see if we need to change that in the future.

Yea, I'm enjoying it as I've achieved both of my goals in this game: rush and took down a neighbor(urh) and keep myself alive till the end of the 4th year http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: In the North country
 

yes, I'm also doing turns alot faster than usual in Ludus, the situations are much less complicated in this game. But if other players are not enjoying the game as much as they should due to time restrain, I'd certainly agree slower turns.

Re: In the North country
 

The game was designed for quicker hosting with a majority vote needed for a 48 hour switch. My vote is to stick with 24 for now.

Re: In the North country
 

I am struggling to keep up - but am willing to keep trying.

Atlantis continual Earth Attacks are reducing my micromanagment problems ... thanks a bunch http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

Re: In the North country
 

Actually, my turns are taking longer now as well, since Pan has forced me to actually think about what I'm doing, instead of just crushing whatever is in the way. I can still do 24 hour without a problem, but I could live with 48 hour.

How about an official vote? I have no idea how to set one up though.

Re: In the North country
 

I can manage 24 hour but wouldnt mind changing to 48 hour.

Re: In the North country
 

Just post clearly that you wish to change to 48. When at least half of the remaining players wish to change over we'll move it up to 48.

Jazzepi

Re: In the North country
 

I am happy to keep taking my turns quickly, but I am going to go on record as voting for a change to 48-h turns. I just think it's getting to that stage in the game.

Re: In the North country
 

dear C'tis,
your demand turned out to be too much for us to bear. I failed to get your point as peaceful as we were, and sadly I found myself have no options but step our forces into a very-likely losing war. just like you wished and you threatened.
that being said, the people of helheim shall never find themselves a dummy of lizard, as so much we valued pride and honor, and we would fight for it till the end of world. should our nation be annihilated one day, remember my word,
Helheim Never Surrender.

Voting Time
 

I would like to vote for a change to 48 hour hosting.

C'tis is preparing to reap what it sowed ... our crop looks like it is going to bitter and particularly foul-tasting .... bleeagh !

Re: Voting Time
 

I appreciate the sacrifices involved in making a hand delivery of a Sea King's Goblet to my ocean defenders, but since I have no immediate use for this item, I thought I would offer it up for sale. Anyone interested in obtaining this magic item can PM me for more details.

Re: Voting Time
 

yeah please buy the goblet from the sea critters and use it against them later on in the game.

Tir na n'Og will also sell Goblets at a discounted price. Contact for price.

Re: Voting Time
 

The trading empire of Ulm has great prices on all items, especially those of elemental magics. Powerful items such as Staves of Elemental Mastery and Robes of Invulnerabilty are also available -- for under base cost! See your local Ulm customer service representative today!

Re: Voting Time
 

*AreWeInsaneYet rings 1-800-856(1-800-ulm)
Greetings madam. At what price would you sell the Chalice to me? Yea, we are questing knights. Order of the Chalice...madam? hello? hello? (bee------------)

Re: Voting Time
 

Talk about a great time to stale a turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

The Ulmish barbarian peoples have lived in harmony with the earth for thousands of years. But now, the Great Earth Mother has been wounded, brutally injured by the devils of Tir na n'Og, who suck up her precious life essence for their own nefarious purposes!

We cannot abide this!!!!

DEATH TO TIR NA N'OG!!!!!!

I call upon all virtuous nations to join me in the crusade to destroy the evildoers!!

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Tir na n'Og's power is indeed disturbing. But the giants of the North choose to remain neutral in this conflict for now.

That said, our wrath is heavy with those who side against us. I think, in fact, that Tir may be goading on certain parties in our war against the valiant tribes of Pangaea. Time will tell.

Smaug of Niefelheim

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

I asked Veslusion to change the hosting schedule over to 48 hours. Please be aware this may take him some time to get done, but will most likely be put into effect soonish (next 12-24 hours).

Jazzepi

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Thanks, Jazzepi. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Velusion went ahead and changed it. Hosting should be 48 hours now.

Jazzepi

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

I thought it was "When at least half of the remaining players wish to change over we'll move it up to 48", not "at least half of players don't mind to change to 48"?

NVM, this way I'll soon find myself asking for a sub. The new semester--the final--begin in two weeks.

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Players indicated their preferences as below with the unmentioned being counted as a vote against switching to 48 hours...

Digress - 48
CUnknown - 48
carlosib - Live with 48
Lingchih - Live with 48
Fal - Live with 48

I counted "I could live with 48 hours" as a vote for it.

"I could live with 48 hour hosting", to me, means "I don't want to switch over to 48 hour hosting unless someone else needs it, in which case I can live with it". Since two players expressly asked for 48 hour hosting, I felt like it was time to switch since 5 people is a clear majority out of the 7 remaining players.

Jazzepi

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Hey Jazz,

Thanks for continuing to monitor this game.

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

No problem. Do send some thanks to Velusion though, he's the host! And he has such nice e-mail notification :3 It's the only reason I can play in 7 games at once.

Jazzepi

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

I'm capped at three. I could probably take on another one, but it would have to be a Velusion game. I'm spoiled by that nice email system and the status pages.

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Server appears to have fallen over. Will try to reconnect in a short while and after that contact our generous host.

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

He's doing maintenance. All games are down for now. He's resetting all timers too (per his post in the game server thread)

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Thanks - his website was to be the next port of call. Lunch break ended early.

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Well, thought I would get this game back in the front page for a time. Pointless war vs. Pangaea is going as expected. Long slog. I haven't heard from any other players in a while... guess I've been regarded as unimportant since all I am doing is fighting Pan.

I would assume this game goes to Tir at some point.

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Don't assume Tir will win! His armies are indeed mighty, but I have been able to take a number of his provinces in the war so far. He is defeatable, I believe. Not easily, though.

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

The blind confidence of the barbarians makes us laugh, yes they have been able to capture a number of provinces with merely 5 PD in them, but don't assume ownership of these provinces yet. Ulm will be the next Abysia, and you will weep in the thunderstorms!! Tir na n'Og shall soon bring peace, culture and enternal youth to your unruly nation.

delenda est Ulm!!

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Pangaea is under siege from the dreadful Giants of the North, and it and their scattered minions will soon fall to the wrath of Niefelheim.

And the treacherous Jarls who defected to Pan will be dealt with, most harshly, by my blood mages I think. They are quite adept at torture.

Except for Volsung. Can I have him back? Dude is a bad-***.

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Ha! good move Ulm. I knew I should have been more patient, you outmaneuvered me last turn and kill my mages one by one while they were sneaking http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif. Again I was being too cleaver, together they were invincible, but I just couldn't resist the temptation of sneaking...

I will make some arrangements before I turn myself on AI in a few turns time, anyone interested in large amount of gems should contact me with a good reason.

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Uh... dude, I feel for you, Fal! That was so wrong, is that a bug? It seems like I should have faught all your sneaking guys at once, not individually. Very strange.

You are taking it very well, if I were you I would be screaming and ripping my hair out. That is quite some army you had, I would have liked to have seen our armies go at it all together. I'm not sure if it was invincible, but I certainly would have lost a ton, even if I won.

Should we report this as a bug? If there are multiple "caught sneakings" in the same province in the same turn, shouldn't they fight together?

To add insult to injury, Fal, all my guys gained like 3 stars because they won like 20 battles in that one turn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

I don't think it's meant to be a bug, I think sneaking commaders are discovered individually.

My original plan was to take out your PD with a smaller force while my mages are hidiing, while you break the siege next turn they will suddenly appear from nowhere to give you a nasty surprise. And if you didn't break siege I had six gate cleavers and a earth mage casting crumble so I could storm castle in one turn. But I didn't realise you'd move beforehand and patrol the province with your entire army http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

FYI, The army had 3 Air mage casting shimmering fields, 1 casting fog warrior, 1 will of fate, 8 for earthquake/rain of stones, 1 for army of lead, 1 for darkness, and 1 for the armor-destroying spell (forgot what's it called) and some other for antimagic, astral healing, transformation, warrior of neiflheim, etc etc. So unless you had fog warrior, your army shouldn't survive the 8 earthquakes, even then there were shimmering fields.

and now they are all gone, along with all their items and gems, oh fate how you mock me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

I am the one, of course!

My good reason: I have no sympathy for you regarding your recent defeat and the gems would help me gobble up your remaining provinces after you go AI. Also, I have wasted 12 air gems on 3 Rings of Tamed Lightning which I no longer need and deserve a refund!

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

I didn't patrol with my guys, apparently the game puts them on patrol automatically when two armies collide in a province with a castle (I was moving to attack at the same time you were). It was random I guess that the battle took place on my province, otherwise your sneaking guys would still be alive.

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

I wonder how old is Solo....
well be careful I've not gone AI yet so you might still need those rings.
Oh btw I have a few Barrel of Air if anyone's interested. and sea king's goblets, free of charge.

CU, that was interesting, yeah so AI does put your defending forces on patrol if the battle takes place in your province well I learned something new today. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

So who the hell is winning this game now? I'm totally confused. Wish we had some graphs. Who has the Eyes of God up? They need to post a screenshot of the world so we can get some kind of idea.

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Well, Tir still has a number of provinces. He could recover, I think, if Atlantis was totally evil and decided to backstab me before I could finish him off. (That would be so cool!) But, maybe it's best if he just gobbles up Tir's remaining provinces along with me. In that case, me (Ulm) and Atlantis would have a lead over the rest of the players.

But, I don't know, despite the beating you two up (Giants, Pangea) north have been dishing out to each other, I think you are both still competitive. And who knows about Helheim, I mean how long has he had Forge of the Ancients active?? That is usually considered a game-winner, right?

Does anyone know how Ctis is doing?

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

I am old enough to probably expire before I get any free gems out of you!

In regard to that battle, I think the patrol only occurs if those troops were given move orders. It's too bad that one disasterous result can drive a very competitive nation to despair.

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Well I still have some muscle and my battlefield magic are still much better than Ulm's, but the sheer number of barbarians and his thugs will eventually destroy Tir, the loss was TOO great for me to reverse current situation.

For the time being Atlantis has slight advantage over Ulm but it won't last long, CU is using the textbook strategy he has made a few effective thugs now and it shouldn't take him long to achieve magic diversity, at which point he will take the lead. FYI His homeland security is rather weak atm http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Oh btw Tir na n'Og is so much fun to play with, it has a wonderful access to some of the most potent magic combos, and Baobhan Sidhe are simply the cheapest yet effective thugs I've seen. you really should try it if you haven't played with it, just don't make the silly mistake I've made http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

I have to agree with Fal, the loss that occured on that turn was enough to make anyone go AI, especially the way it happened with like 20-30 of his mages dying one at a time back-to-back.

Unless he gets a 10+ turn period to recoup his losses, he's pretty much done for. And the only way he's going to get that is with outside assistance.

Re: Tir na n\'Og
 

Yeah, I've messed around with Tir na n'Og in SP, and they look really fun. I haven't had the chance to try them in MP yet.

C\'tis, going ... going ......
 

Helheim is using a healthy gem income, perhaps with some help from someone, to keep C'tis well and truly slapped down - I staled the last turn and that didn't help things (my router blew up late in the evening mid-turn, would you believe it) and then I had a busy day away from a computer.

Combined Wrathful Skies and repeated Rain of Stones destroyed my most capable army almost completely (including some of my very limited number of air mages who would have come in handy).

Helheim has some well equipped SCs running around - fewer than I expected so I imagine there are quite a few hiding out around the place to really pile on the pain shortly.

Have to see about getting the turn in...

Re: C\'tis, going ... going ......
 

Yeah, Niefelheim had some well equipped SCs running around at one time. They mostly work for Pangaea now. Must be those naked maeneds in the battlefield. Just too much for the Jarls to resist.

I'm castrating them all from now on.

Re: C\'tis, going ... going ......
 

Tir na N'og, my offer to accept all of your gems will expire this turn. This may be your last chance to part with them, so send them to me quickly, please!

Re: C\'tis, going ... going ......
 

Well Neifelheim had some okay-equipped thugs at one time. It's amazing Pan used charm as main strategy and lasted this long against the mighty double-blessing giants.

Talking about which I might charm a few barbarians myself next turn.

Re: C\'tis, going ... going ......
 

To paraphrase, "Lingchih sucks at this game". Guilty as charged.

Rape of Mother Earth
 

To those who steal the lifeblood of Gaia for their own nefarious purposes: The Barbarian Hoards of Ulm are aware of your vile existence and are coming soon to end it.