Re: Game timers
 

That worked very nicely ich, thank you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Caelum -> AI
 

He is still not AI and stalled again (and Fomoria took more of his lands...).

Re: Caelum -> AI
 

ich, that page you made for me didn't seem to work, I had a stale turn..

Re: Caelum -> AI
 

Sorry, I was offline and didn't make it to set him to AI in time. I wanted to do it some hours before hosting.

Janlm, I'm sorry about that, I didn't get to test it but assumed that it would work just like for PBEM. I'll have to investigate this later. Maybe I need to reset the server?

Re: Caelum -> AI
 

it happened for onomancy too, the strange thing is that the status page said that the game had received my turn. Well i got internet back today, so everything is back to normal for me now.

Re: Caelum -> AI
 

hmm i lost conection to the dangerpudding server while i was doing my turn.

Re: Caelum -> AI
 

I haven't been able to send in my turn yet, I can't seem to connect. I don't know if i'm the only one or what... Ich can you delay the timer a little so i can get a chance to look at again this evening?

Server hiccup
 

The server barfed, said he couldn't write to a savegame file. Now it is clear why your orders haven't been followed last turn:
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>-rw------- 1 www-data www-data 73720 2008-01-16 00:49 early_tienchi.2h</pre><hr />
The script overwrote your turn file in a way that only the web server can access it. During hosting that means that the server didn't get to read your orders and let you stale. When you tried to update the *.2h file it barfed at the write error. I have fixed this and changed the script that this does not happen again. I dare you to try the script again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: Server hiccup
 

What happened? I was unable to connect days ("Waiting for game info") and then today I get a new, stale turn :-( I really sorry for missed trades. And missing turn sucks.

Re: Server hiccup
 

Sorry, you should have sent me an email in case of trouble, so that I could at least reset the game timer or something. As far as I am aware, the server was operational, all others have been playing their turns just fine.

Re: Server hiccup
 

Yes, I should have. My nephew says it sometimes happens for people, and I should just try again until it works at end.

Re: Server hiccup
 

I have the same problem right now. Perhaps because I'm the last player this turn?

Re: Server hiccup
 

Gandalf Parker has informed me that there was a power blink and the server has been rebooted again. I'll restart the games now.

EDIT: It seems like the server shut down right while it was in the process of hosting. It hosted right now, no one staled.

Re: Server hiccup
 

I wish to trade for a blood stone.

I will provide (equal value) astral or water items in exchange, gems or favors, as desired.

Re: Server hiccup
 

I hang on connect. I do not know if I am last. If I am, sorry for holding game on weekend, and I hope I can make it before host.

Re: Server hiccup
 

I have the same problem. The status page is down too.

Re: Server hiccup
 

Maybe the server lost connection to the internet for a while. I'll reset the timers.

Re: Server hiccup
 

Yomi has NAP-5 with Fomoria, but from turn 41, we suffered their attacks without any notice!

Szumo, lord of Fomoria, is a nasty NAP breaker! His name should be put on the blacklist. I will never play with him in future.

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It was proved to be my fault. I seriously apologize for my mistakes. </font>

Re: Server hiccup
 

hmm, whatever happens in game should be kept in game...

Re: Server hiccup
 

That's a lie, there never was a NAP between our nations.
I did propose you one a while ago, but you never agreed to it or even acknowledged my messages.

Re: Server hiccup
 

Give me a reason why I should lie? I can get nothing by lying. I'm just telling the truth. You may have various reasons like you haven't received response, but I did reply your message and accepted that NAP-5.

It's just a game and I don't want to waste time arguing. From now on I'll save screen shot of every message in case something similar happens in future.

Now I understand why I'm only a newbie and after this I'm going to be a little more "experienced".

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It was proved to be my fault. I seriously apologize for my mistakes. </font>

Re: Server hiccup
 

Various reasons for not receiving response? Like what exactly? Give me a date you say you sent one, i store every private message i get on this forum and backup every turn of the game and received nothing accepting NAP from you.
If you merely wanted to accept it but forgot to actually send the message, please have the courage to admit and stop blaming other people for your mistake.

Re: Server hiccup
 

Good! You have backup! Check messages after 01/12/08 and your recent 10 turns. You will know the truth. It was sent out one turn before or after Ctis was cleared.

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It was proved to be my fault. I seriously apologize for my mistakes. </font>

Re: Server hiccup
 

Evers, losing message on Dominions III is very easy. In another game, I tried sending damn ring to ally for three turns - I had ring, I wanted to send it, and I was clearing messages, starting turn again, and what not. Only on third turn I send it.

It is likely this happened. This game is bad at letting you review messages in game. Better use forum's system.

Re: Server hiccup
 

Question: Do Victory Points play role in this game? Anything at all?

Re: Server hiccup
 

Everz: I did check. No message from you.

Nikolai: as far as i know, they will help spread the dominion of province owner (like a temple) and that's all.

Server update
 

We have updated to Dominions pi, you'll have to install the update by next time the game hosts. Be aware that the graphs from previous turns will vanish.

P.S.: I could verify any claims, but I guess that's beside the point.
P.P.S.: One Victory Point raises your Dominion by 1, the same as four temples would do.

Re: Server update
 

What is Dominions PI? Patch 3.14?

Re: Server update
 

I would guess so, yeah http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Server hiccup
 

You are an experienced player and I think it is unnecessary for you to lie. And after further thinking, I think it is also unnecessary for you to break NAPs. So I'd like to trust your backups. There must be some mistakes made by myself.

Then it seems it is completely my fault. I seriously apologize for my mistakes. It's indeliberate.

Re: Server hiccup
 

Grrr.... someone is dropping plagues on my capital. I'd planned to wait before going on land, but this changes the situation greatly.

Re: Server hiccup
 

Hey, not long before host, and no one has taken turn. Are we all engaged in crazy diplomacy?

Lets just declare an East/West war, and fight it out :-)

Re: Server hiccup
 

hey

i'm a little hard pressed on time this turn, and i'm not sure i can make the deadline tomorrow. Can i get a few hours delay ich? not much, just some 8 hours or so.

Timer restarted
 

No problem, I just restarted the timer. If you want to make sure that I notice things like this, you should send me a PM or email aswell the next time, that has a greater chance to catch my attention.

Re: Timer restarted
 

I think stopping timer for weekend is nice in general. Just as long there is regular schedule during weekdays.

Re: Timer restarted
 

Fomoria would like to purchase Skull of Fire. Send me a message if you can forge it and we'll talk, i can forge some interesting stuff in exchange, i believe.

Re: Timer restarted
 

Question to all players, but especially host:

Do we allow use of shortlisted bug "Cast battlefield enchantment and retreat mage"? This makes enchantment last until all troops are gone. Some combinations of enchantment are unbeatable.

I am asking because it was just used on me in other game, which I am quitting. I would like to know exact interpretation of rules in this game.

Two scenarios:

1. Two units on field. One has "Staff of Storms", casts "Wrathful Skies", and retreats. Other stays and fight.

2. Two units on field. One casts "Mist of Deception" and retreats. Other has "Staff of Storms", casts "Wrathful Skies", and retreats.

Do we allow either? My preference is:

"No" on 1, "No" on 2.

Re: Timer restarted
 

Anyone else has problems with the server?
When I try to get the turn, the game is freezing at the "waiting for game info" window.

Re: Timer restarted
 

This is a problem that has popped up before in several network games.

You can try playing windowed instead of full screen. Start the game and connect, and get stuck on "Getting game info".

Do not close the window!

Start another instance of the game in a new window. This new instance of the game should connect okay.

Re: Timer restarted
 

Thanks!

Re: Timer restarted
 

I think that's what the players have to decide among themselves. Personally I'm tempted to say that if it isn't on the bug thread page, it isn't a bug, and you can use it.

Re: Timer restarted
 

It is actually on short bug list. But many people use it. As I said, it was used against me in 'War of Dominion'... and I want to know what goes in this game.

I have reached point where I can pull this trick myself. I would like us to vote if is allowed or not. I do not want to have my army wiped, and be told 'Oh, I thought it was OK'

Re: Timer restarted
 

I vote that you can not order any mage casting battlefield wide enchantments to retreat unless it's the sixth order (very last one). So no returning spell, only retreat.

Re: Timer restarted
 

well if it is on the bug list, ofcourse it shouldn't be used. No reason to make it such a big deal...

Re: Timer restarted
 

I have announcement.

This weekend, Tuidjy is taking over Jotunheim. He is my nephew, he will read all messages that we have exchanged, and he promises to honor all treaties I have made. I know some players do not think treaties bind subs, but I ask you to consider holding to them. I honestly believe that all my treaties are good for both parties...

In any case, I will make one more anouncement, when he take nation.

Losing nation -> AI
 

everz / Yomi has been staling the last 2 turns and will now be set to AI by me. Please do so yourself in case you're losing and don't want to play it out until the end.

Re: Losing nation -> AI
 

I was just about to set Yomi to AI, but seems I'm a little bit late. Sorry for wasting you guys' time. Have fun!

Re: Losing nation -> AI
 

I have a rather difficult weekend with work I need to do - any chance we could get a 24h extension on the next turn?

Arcane Nexus went up last turn
 

Hello guys...

I am about to take over Nick's Niefelheim. With the 24 hour delay, I may actually
end up taking the very next turn. I would like to bring the recently cast Arcane
Nexus to your attention. Now, in most games I have been, Arcane Nexus has always
been a way for one player to say "I feel I can take all of you at once". I know
that whenever I have cast it, that was the way I felt... In any case, in a game
this big, with six healthy nations and 600+ in gem income, AN will pull at least
100 pearls per turn. Are we going to let the spell stand?

Please, if someone is already organizing a Dispel fueled by collectively contributed gems, let me know.

Timer reset
 

I have reset the server now, that should do the trick?

In other news, Yomi has not been set AI as I commanded it to. And it's still reported as staling (only) two turns. Very strange. Maybe that has to do with everz checking on the game again? Now I'm setting them to AI again this turn...