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Atlantis dissolves its NAP with Arcocephale.
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Wow, hey now! You guys need to actually message ME. I didn't receive any messages stating this!
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Re: War!
MD has PM'd me asking for a one-turn delay to the start of hostilities. I have agreed. Caelum and Arco will now issue commands to invade on Turn 64 instead of Turn 63. Hopefully Atlantis will as well. ; )
MD, you may want to subscribe to this thread, so you can get email notices when someone posts here... |
Ermor gone AI!
Hrmf. Wtf? Did Tharsonius go AI? That's very lame-***, if so. To do it without a word. : /
Guys, there's only the three of us left, and Ermor has like 1/3 of the world in a great big chunk. I'm...not sure I want to play this game anymore. : ( Proposal: I delay this turn for a while. I've PM'd Tharsonius to make certain it wasn't just some sort of mistake. If not, and he really has dropped out...what do you guys think about calling this game a 3-way tie? : ) |
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You're kidding me?? He dropped?! Man, things are getting interesting now too!
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They were, yes. Bah.
Well, I received a "read" receipt sixteen hours ago. Tharsonius has read my PM, and he hasn't responded. I guess he isn't going to bother. I've turned off the timer for this turn. What are your guys' thoughts? |
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Yeah, I'm with Drya. I'm surprised he didn't find a replacement if he is tied up elsewhere...
If he doesn't respond, would it be possible to get a replacement for him? |
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Get a replacement! Bah! Heh, I feel intelligent now... ; )
I've PM'd llamabeast, and he says he can turn the clock back to Turn 63 for us, before Ermor went AI. I've advertised for a replacement here. Hopefully we will gain a replacement and be able to continue! |
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I'll sub, no sense in a game getting torpedoed for a MIA. No worries if Tharsonius shows back up.
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He won't.
Welcome, Baalz! This turn is now changed to be due at 16:05 GMT Monday, to give you some time. I've turned Quickhost back on, and after this turn we will move back to the regular 48-hour quickhost schedule. (And you know, it occurs to me that if we hadn't agreed to delay the war by a turn, and if Ermor had waited just one more turn to stale...it would have royally screwed us over, because we all would have completed--and seen!--each other's intended opening moves in the coming war...; ) --IndyPendant. |
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Bad news guys...I don't suppose anybody knows the password for Ermor? Still no response from Tharsonius?
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Password?!? Unbelievable. I'll try PMing him for it...
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Hmm! I never got a read receipt on my PM, but Elli's turn popped before the timer was up. And Ermor is still in! Was that you, Baalz?
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Yes, the legion marches under new command. The new dawn of Ermor is at hand as the dust from a thousand boots rises into the air and the world shivers as they prepare for life under the burning standard. Tend to the prayers of your heathen gods while you can, the empire is upon your doorstep.
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Heh. Looks like I chose the wrong ally. ; )
I was afraid Ermor would do something like that! Atlantis, you've done dick-all in our 'war' with Arcosephale. If you don't get off your *** and kick butt this turn, you'll be facing Arcosephale and Ermor alone. *shrug* Well played, Baalz. I'll be reviewing this turn's battles later, at which point I may have to extend that to MartialDoctor too. ; ) --IndyPendant. |
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I sentence you for the crime of heresy
I sentence you for the crime of bringing a war ally in unprovoked aggression against a peaceful neighbor I sentence you for the crime of being a half man abomination with the audacity to attack a nation of pureblood men The legion marches with their brothers in Arcoscephale, and the sentence is death. The androgynous frog man in the water knows better than to invite the wrath of the legion, the crucified birds nailed up across the continent would be enough to quail even real men. Look not for salvation from the toad cowering under the waves. |
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I have delayed the game by 24 hours in the hopes that MD can get his turn in. Two stales during a vicious war is...not as fun a victory. ; )
Do we want 72 hours for regular turns? I can change the interval if so... |
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Yoink!
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Heh. A confession: this game (as well as King of the Isle) are the very first times I've reached a MP end-game. I must say, I'm glad you're on board, Baalz. I'm learning like six different tricks a turn, fighting you!
Now. Where in hell is that damned fountain going to show up next? ; ) |
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Oh, you seem to be doing more than alright yourself. I've got a couple tricks up my sleeve but then I couple them with stunning strategy like sending a bunch of guys to attack Caelum with no lighting resistance. Doh!
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Oh the humanity! Teleport in a dozen S3 mages with penetration boosters, script the first one to cast light of the northern star, everybody else to spam enslave mind. Drop in on a large group of tartarians....and indeed several of them fail the MR roll. Problem is I neglected to give an astral pearl to the light of the northern sky guy so everybody is spamming paralyze. Instead of getting caught up fighting each other 4 tarts are paralyzed and the rest squish up my mages. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif
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I'm going to have to pick your guys brain after this one. I'm still learning how this game works...
I didn't even know you could teleport guys in like you all did. I mean, I knew there were spells to move armies but I was a bit surprised that Indy moved his ENTIRE army like that :-) I am really enjoying this, though. Quite an interesting game. |
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Heheh, I did the same thing to him a few turns ago and managed to storm one of his castles before he destroyed my army (stupid nightmares http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif). The trick is to use leadership boosting items - several of them in combination will let one commander lead several hundred troops if you use the right commander and a mix of undead, regular and magic troops.
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Heh. I would love to trade tactics and stories when this is all over. I suspect mine aren't nearly as crafty as you may be thinking they are though.
I'm almost certainly going down soon, within about 2-4 turns. It's taking everything I have just to slow Ermor and Arco down. Arco's now taken back all the provinces I grabbed in my initial (unwillingly solo) thrust, and most of my own provinces have been fought over back and forth 2-5 times now. My lands are wartorn ruins, I've lost one fort, and another is besieged. I can't get too annoyed though, really. I made no less than three major blunders in this war. (That I'm aware of. Heh.) First was forgetting to transfer more gems to my main army besieging Arco's home province way back at the beginning, so that when he sallied forth, my army wasn't Antimagic'd, Leaded, Mistformed, Regen'd, Reinvig'd, Flying, and Berserking. DOH! Second was sending my Gale Gate caster out by mistake to defend against Ermor's attack...and when he died, global spell went poof. *sigh* Third was sending extra support mages into that most recent battle where Arco is now beseiging my castle--and forgetting to set them to "Move and Patrol", so that now they're sitting inside the castle playing with their nice purty gems. --I suspect I may have lost that battle even with the additional support though; but at least I would have inflicted some damage! I can't help pointing out though that the difference between me and Atlantis was that my mistakes were not deliberately ignoring an agreement to double-team Arco. Things might very well have been different if Atlantis had actually bothered to attack Arco when he said he would. We most likely would have had Arco all-but wrapped up before Ermor attacked, despite my mistakes... |
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If it makes you feel any better I would have moved sooner if Atlantis had attacked. Part of my hesitancy was the large army on my border not doing anything yet, and there was *no way* I'd sit around waiting for you two to get around to killing me with no Arco to distract you. I would have immediately attacked with whatever I had if you both were moving on Arco.
I've made a couple fairly big mistakes myself from sending in a bunch of non-lighting immune tartarians in to not giving gems to the guys scripted to drop in and rain of stones you to my previously mentioned flub where I just lost most of my good astral mages. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif To be honest I was quite surprised at how fast Arco beat you back, it looked like he was sunk for sure with the amount of territories you took so fast. But yeah, I feel like I've got my fangs sunk in and am tightening the coils now. Atlantis' capital is sieged and Caelum is rapidly bleeding to death. ABANDON ALL HOPE. THE LEGION COMES AND THE ROTTING CORPSES ARE PILED HIGH. FALL TO YOUR KNEES AND BEG FOR A SWIFT DEATH. |
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Hrmf. Bah. Sorry about staling out there, guys. I lost most of my remaining SCs last turn, trying to take out one of Ermor's armies (and failing). I've been wracking my brains trying to figure out a way to pull my *** out of the fire ever since, and I just can't do it.
So I intended to go AI, but forgot that the turn would be due before I got up this morning. ; ) I'll put myself on AI this turn, when I get home from work. Nice recovery, MD; I didn't expect that so quick. And nicely played, Baalz. I would love to spend some time afterwards discussing suggestions and opponents' perceived mistakes, if you guys are still up for it. Just let me know when. And have fun! |
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GG man, that was an interesting fight, and some rotten luck on your part - I had just moved all those mages in anticipating storming that castle with a bunch of tartarians inside - if you'd attacked my other army you'd have easily won.
I didn't see many big mistakes on your part, other than a somewhat unavoidable over-reliance on lighting spam which was easily counterable once I got my head out my ***. I will say though that there's been no attempt by anybody (other than one halfhearted squad from Atlantas which quickly retreated to the water) to bring the fight back to my lands. As you noted, your provinces have all been fought back and forth for as you bleed troops while I've just been sending a steady stream over and putting castles up in 90% of my provinces. Seeing the speed with which Arco seemed to go down I expected some significant raiding onto my own territories as I had just thrown everything I had into yours and all that lighting is a whole lot harder to counter when I don't know where it's coming next. |
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Heh. Jeez, I did almost as good this turn when I staled, as I have been ever since I began retreating in the face of Baalz's blitzkrieg!
And yeah Baalz, that was my intent--to try to keep the offensive momentum going. The problem was, it's hard to fight two superior opponents alone at the same time. ; ) Ah well, I still like Caelum for some reason, despite their horribly severe limitations. I'll probably be looking to play them another time later on. |
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Good playing with you Indy. Yeah, I was also surprised that I was able to take out most of your forces so easily. However, knowing that you had few gems, that would explain part of it.
Another part was, in my opinion, you split your forces too much. I think you did that due to the fact that I wasn't resisting much, at first, and you figured you could take me over quickly. The splitting of your forces allowed me to more easily pick off your smaller armies with my larger ones. |
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I guess my main question for Indy would be this. Indy, when you attacked me, you managed to get your entire army over to my side. I understand that your troops can fly but how did you move your Tartarians so far into my territory? Did you give them items that enabled them to do so?
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Ah, did the time get reset to 36 hours? I just received the turn yesterday afternoon and I am getting a 6 hour notification already.
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Hmm, I never made any changes to the llamaserver, and I *think* I'm still the mod here (am I?) It's set to 48 hours now...
As to moving that first army to Arco's capital, it was not really any big secret. I just had the Airship artifact, and gave it to a 100-unit leader. Most of Caelum's leaders have Flight-3, and I just gave the Enchantresses and Shamans Boots of Flying so they could come along. Then I started the war with those leaders placed in my wasteland castle, which was three provinces away from Arco's capital, et voila! I was able to send those hordes of leaders in all directions cuz they could all cast Thunder(strike) and Lightning(Bolt)...and I had completed my research. All of it. Level 9 in all schools, including Blood, before the war began. And I wanted to take advantage of that before (hopefully!) anyone else had managed to do that. /whine on I also got *hammered* with that new scale bug that was introduced and then fixed in the recent patches. I dropped over 25% income for dozens of turns! I went from around 60% of my gold being spent on upkeep to nearly 90%. I couldn't even produce leaders in half my castles, let alone units! (Most of my provinces were on those two damned peninsulas, and bordered Atlantis. He was sucking away my Order, Production, and Growth...all *supposed* to be at +3.) That really, really, *really* sucked. I got screwed over in so many ways this game. --Not by players, just bad luck. I couldn't even complain about the damned scale bug, in fear that it would tempt the others to attack me. /whine off One thing surprised me; I handled sitesearching poorly in this game, and I thought I had to be way behind in gem income--another reason why I started the war. Based on Arco's territories I conquered though, it seems I was wrong. I think my gem production outstripped yours... Anyways. Any other comments/suggestions? Baalz, how about you? Or are you guys still in top-secret wartime mode? ; ) |
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Oh, I think probably a few more turns before I want to roll all my cards face up.
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Alright, Arco is about to stale for the third time in a row I'm gonna call this game over. GG guys, could the game host mark it as finished on the llamaserver?
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Doop, it's over due to staling out? That's unfortunate. Did you pretty much have the win or something, Baalz?
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Arco's why I was holding out, no reason for me to keep getting whittled down then.
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Oh, I'm 99.99% sure I had the win locked in. I'm more than twice as big as Arco and Atlantis is down to just a handful of provinces left...I think I've got more fortresses than there are enemy provinces. I've got over 20 GOR'ed tartarians and I'm casting Arcane Nexus this round with about 600 pearls. I was just waiting for Arco's concession, but with three stales in a row now I guess I might be waiting for awhile. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
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Okay then. Elli has been declared finished. Congratulations, Baalz! Well played. (As usual.)
Now! The AAR's! Gimme gimme gimme! (Please. ; ) What advice do any of you offer, if any, and is there anything you would like me to expand upon? |
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Argh, sorry guys, I just can't play these PBEM games. Hopefully, I can find people who enjoy playing this game who are nearby (so we can play a game in installments).
I didn't stall due to the thought that I'd lose, though. My life just gets really busy at times and games are not on the high priority list. Now, Baalz may be totally right in his assessment that he had won the game. As this was my first MP game, I'm not sure, but I did not feel that I had lost it. His dominion wasn't overpowering me too much and I had planned on attacking his newly conquered Caelum provinces (which had no fortresses). Plus, I had a huge cash income and what I thought was a good gem income. I don't know what a GOR'ed taurtarian is but I had no problem controlling Indy's taurtarians... and I wasn't even using any boosters. Plus, I had a huge amount of mages and quite a few of those nature dragons, whatever they are called. But, again, I could have been in for a surprise from Baalz, I'm sure :-) Anyways, I really enjoyed playing with you guys. This PBEM stuff just isn't for me, unfortunately. |
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NP man, I understand. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif You certainly might have surprised me! GG.
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