Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

Restart if you want.

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

We can restart if you want. I think I have an old version of cradle with perhaps 13 hand-placed start positions. If we use that obviously people won't be perfectly evenly spaced (there not being 13 of you), but it might be a little better.

If you really want good start positions you have to hand-place them, but that is really hard work.

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

Thanks for the help everyone ....

I deleted ALL my games (including the tutorial),created another file and just put the 2 files in there (TRN and the 2h) worked like a charm. As usual I sent in a revised same turn just to make sure I knew what I was doing....Problem resolved.

It looks like I am ok in the placement but a restart is fine with me.

I agree that it would be no fun to look forward to this game and then be fighting from turn 3 knowing you have NO chance to just get your feet wet.

I also agree that DarksStone tried his best and i can wait another 48 hours if we need to to get him in and get everyone situated in a good spot.

It seems from what I've read these games go on for months, 48 hours isn't gonna hurt anything.

Just my 2 cents worth

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

i sent a PM to llama to request a restart.

oh well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

then another thing came up with me, and it might in the next week or two not allow me to put in a turn. haha. i think the fates dont want me to play MP just yet.

first im having a problem with my dom3, its happening mostly just with this MP game....i posted a bug in the forum about it but there is no reply or fix for it yet (it does however make the game unplayable as all input aside from dragging the map with mouse totally disappears)...

second thing was that i thought i would be living in one place for awhile with a new job, but, i stopped the job yesterday after some issues that were apparent and instead i think ill be moving back to sweden (im in spain now).

this being said i want someone else to host. also i will be dropping, so, maybe you all want to change map as well and/or wait for another few players?

hosting really doesnt involve much, there is an admin options menu where you can configure a few things but its not even necessary...otherwise its just moving the game along more or less, as far as i can see.

someone who knows how to use a computer and copy files though, preferably ;-)....i think its rather comical (no offense) that a few of you are seriously having problems copying a friggin file which is stopping you from playing or whatnot.
seriously. computers are not magic boxes. we live in a technology age, get with the program! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif)
(im a software engineer now, but, then again, i still figured out computers when i was no more than maybe 10 years old, and i was cracking apart games to make cheat programs or mods by the time i was 14....if a 10 year old can do it, so can you!;)

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

I'm willing to host the restart. I recommend sticking with Cradle as I think it's the best MP map; especially for new players. It seems balanced, with plenty of choke points for securing borders. Also, my SP experiments have led me to the conclusion that 13 players is a good number for it.

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Thanks effeDom for your efforts in trying to get this together. I wish you all the best in your move to Sweden and hope to see you back on here when you get settled.

That being said, I (GrudgeBringer) AM IN for the new game.

IF Executor does not want Sauromatia I would like that race.

If he stays with it I will stay with Marverni as I want to try Baalz's strategy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

have fun guys, thanks ubercat http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

send llama a PM, he will rehost the game and send you a PW to login to admin options.

and now, to finally get out of latino countries....aaaaaaaaaahhh!!! runnnnnn!!!!!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif))

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

Allright, I PM'd Llammabeast. I'm a little confused. How many players do we have now? Is it 11? Should we wait for two more?

Also, do we want to stick with indy strength 7? I had qualms about that in a newbie game, but didn't speak up before. 5 would decrease the odds of someone having his first army bashed and losing a couple of turns to get back up to speed. I'm embarrassed to admit it recently happened to me in SP.

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

I'm okay with changing indie strength. Also, do we want to have it set so that victory points match up with player capitals? I feel like that takes away much of the mystery and uncertainty in the beginning.

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ZZZZZ http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif Bwaha i'm still in. has someone told llamabeast that we're starting over?

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

Hope we get a quick re-start here :-)

Please don't spend another week arguing over the settings like what happened the first time around.

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

To GrundeBringer- Sorry but I think I'm gonna stick with Saromatia, never played with them before and they seem nice, other then them maybe I would try caelum, if we are still waiting for more players I'll consider caelum, anyway I'll PM you, or then again post here if I'm changing anything, but I ain't making promises!

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

I'm staying with Sauromatia, sorry...
Caelum really lacks magic diversity, and have astral n.spells and no astral mages to begin with.

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

please, more fighting, at least one turn of fighting is all i ask. come on people i have a pair of blue b*lls that i want to release on some indies and maybe someone else. i can't play/fight anyone til we really start. so in closing, i say lets either abandon this game and are released from our commitments to play or get this game going with the understanding that if somethimg in real life gets in the way that we will notify/post this to everyone instantly. Bwaha

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

This game will restart today, fear not!

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

Thanks Excutor for answering...NP, I just have played them the most in SP. They are a good race but what seems on the surface as good isn't exactly the best.....my hint to you.

Doesn't matter that much to me and it sounds like llamabeast is going to start the game today, but if INDIES are set higher then you have a little more time to set your Kingdom up before meeting someone.

Just a thought, makes no difference to me as playing Marverni will be challenge enough.

I would like to know how many we have, other than that....lets get the fighting underway!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

what do we do? send in pretenders again? or is it all good? have to work today so will be back around 8 pm to check on things. hope to be playing with you all soon. Bwaha http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

Shouldn't we bring in another player or two, this is a somewhat BIG map for, how many of us is there now 10 or 11, anyway thats too much still, over 20 provinces per player,
but I don't wanna delay the game even more with my nonsense,
and that red-wek-neck dude whatever his name is and now with effeDom moving (all the best to you man).
It would be really nice to start this soon.

And one question if you don't mind answering please, ( not related to this game ), If you ask someone for a NAP, and he doesn't say nothing but, I killed you messinger bla,bla,bla,
and a couple of turn later I attack him, Is that really unhonourable?

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

No, if you offer NAP and he doesn't respond, feel free to attack him.

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

Is this game going to be a go?

Or are we bagging it?

I'm in if we play

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

Right! We have restarted!

I took some executive decisions:

- Indies got set to 6, as a compromise between 5 and 7.
- The victory condition is now a sensible 5 capitals.
- I decided not to wait for more players, as the last newbie game filled up only slowly and I think people's patience here was wearing a little thin (it seems you had quite a cursed game so far). Also I decided to leave the map as Cradle, because it is lovely. Also I've done a 10-player game before on Cradle, and it was really excellent, so I don't think you'll find it to be too big really. Rather, you'll get a little space at the start to develop before you get attacked, which is nice.

Also, this thread is a mess and I can't edit the first post, so I am going to start a new thread and we'll use that one from now on.

Unfortunate as this game has been in getting going, I think it's going to be a really fun one. Good map, interesting nations, and lots of cheerful newbies. So have fun!

Right, move along to the other thread. I will give Ubercat the admin password, so he's the man to ask for extensions and stuff like that. Also he's been in a couple of games before so can answer questions about diplomacy and so on.

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

Strange question, really. No, attacking in that situation would be fine I think. The only time people can really get annoyed is if you agree to a non-aggression pact and then break it. Also sometimes people get annoyed if you appear to be in the middle of negotiations when you attack. Of course, you could see that as merely a cunning strategy.

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

Not answering a NAP request is just plain rude in my opinion, but it happens all the time anyway. Not showing another player enough respect to even answer their friendly gesture is insulting and doesn't even hide your hostile intent! You may as well just say "I'm coming after you soon."

If someone offers a NAP and you're secretly planning on attacking them, just say that you aren't ready to commit to anything yet, and you're still exploring your options. Who knows? You might change your mind and accept in a few turns. Circumstances DO change in this game. You have to be ready to adapt your plans.

Re: FreshMeat - EA Newbie - (WAIT FOR HOSTING->UPL
 

OK GREAT!!

Now what do we do? I have deleted all the stuff out of the file in anticipation of restarting.

I still have my Pretender but got rid of trn file and first turn file.

Do I need someone to send it to me agian?

Also, is everyone still in that we had (minus effeDom)? and are we keeping the same nations?

I'm easy just need to know!!