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And Arco too?

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Can't set arco to ai, they passworded their god.

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Yes. I don't know how common it is, but it's considered good manners to not password protect your pretender since there's no way to get a sub or AI the nation if the player goes missing...

Ulm should now be AI too. And the armies of C'tis have once again been decimated. Mictlan has a nasty bless (like usual).

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If the pretender file still is on the llamaserver you could get it that way and extract the password using this tool, provided by Ich

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Mictlan is of course amenable to peace with the lizards after suitable war reparations have been agreed upon. And we have only one third of the normal mictlan bless ;-)

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Hello

I have to go back home and drop the games I'm in (I can't take my computer). I'm sorry to warn so late (and after having already stalled one or two turns) but something unexpected came up and I forgot a bit about the games I'm in.

There is no password on my pretender, do as you see fit :) (it is possible that I will be available again in a week or so if no sub has been found yet...)

Have fun,

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Hmm. Anyone know anyone who would like to join in instead of Dark Kitty? I'll be postponing hosting for 48 hours, if no one is found by then, Jomon will be going AI. I won't start spamming the forums for a sub - most likely it's pointless and waste of time and good letters ;)

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And we're at turn 50, anyone want to get a longer hosting time?

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Things are about to get busy for me in-game so I might request longer if I'm struggling, but I'm okay at the moment.

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Hosting interval does not matter to me, I could go either way if there's someone who feels strongly about it.

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Can I request a one-off 24h extention please?

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Hosting postponed for 24 hours.

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My apologies for the upcoming stall. It was the case that I'd have time to get home from work before the turn was due, but something seems to have affected that delicate balance, and I didn't notice until it was too late (I'm still at work now). No complaints, no worries, and the next turn will be in on time. (I recommend everyone shore-up their defences, I'll be attacking you all simultaneously with the surplus resources.)

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This had better not delay the shipment of carrion beasts I was promised...I REQUIRE MY SLEEP VINES



there will be grave consequences

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Don't make me send the AI Arco after you. You know what they are all about...

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who owns TC's capital these days? isn't it a FABULOUS starting spot? I wonder if I might have pulled something out of it with an awake SC... Probably not. I just won a gandalfserver MP game with the same setup, so it just goes to show, luck is important...

Rabe, who cant decide what to do in Doedicurus.

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I just wanted to say sorry for dropping out without going AI.

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I control your cap now (patala) actually the ai lingered on for quite a while...Tien only died a few turns ago. After laying seige to your cap I sat there for quite a while hoping for a dom kill and attended to other matters...but you had some dominion in Abysia's land that just wouldn't quit. Taking a rainbow pretender in MP is always risky and it definitely was a tough starting spot.

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Oh ho ho. *evil laugh*. What splendid war!

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Bad start positions are the bane of many of a nation: you can quite easily see your hopes of dominance die in the first year. People not on a map edge also need to pay a lot more attention to diplomacy.

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Can you extend the turn limit by four hours, please? I can't do it tonight and I might struggle to do it as soon as 20.00GMT tomorrow.

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Hosting extended by 6 hours

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Pangea broke its NAP with Marignon without warning.

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I'm sure you haven't forgotten, Ossa, but in the interest of protecting my honour from those who might have ;)

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Mmm, the way I read Ossa's post, he was simply stating a fact without passing judgement on it.

In a Machiavellian game, it is still of value to the other players to know which NAPs are worth something, and which ones aren't ;)

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Exactly.

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I know: that's why I said "I'm sure you haven't forgotten, Ossa..." I wasn't faulting him for letting other players know the situation (a wise move on his part); I just thought my allies in other games would like to know that I appreciate the distinction between the two game types.

... Ok, so this sounded less trivial in my head. I worry too much.

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Do we have any mac users who I should be aware of - for postponing hosting until 3.23 is out for them.

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The requested URL /downloads/dompatch323.exe was not found on this server.

I'll try again later tonight.

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Hi, can I have a 24h extension for this turn, please?

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I wasn't at computer yesterday so I missed that - can't help it now though.

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Mm. I got out a rushed housekeeping turn, lost me a major battle but better than staling.

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At this time, I would like to ask for a concession...A rough count puts me at around 130 provinces total income of about 10,000 gold (6000 after upkeep) 263 gems/turn (only 2 of which are blood slaves) I have been putting those gems to good use...I found the Ultimate gateway during my invasion of Pythium (for those not in the know, it's a magic site with a 50% conjuration bonus...which in the hands of my nation is almost unfair, thus the proliferation of rudras and kinnaras) I finished researching quite a while ago so all of my mages are free to roam and cast magic to devastating effect.

There are still some potent nations out there (Atlantis has shown very solid defensive anti SC tactics and I'm sure pangea and his carrion beasts would prove unpleasant) but thankfully I'm not a one trick pony and my SC's are mostly there to disrupt income while my main armies take down the real resistance. I have quite enjoyed this game but my turns are starting to take a painfully long time and at this point I think it's less a case of if I'll win and more a case of when. I'll crack that dome on your cap eventually Atlantis :D

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My own doom in eventuality come from one or the other. I am toast when it comes to defending against Patala... at least I could gorilla it against Atlantis. Towel goes in should everyone else concur.

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I know that you've been expanding long and mostly unopposed, but darn, didn't think that much.

I know there's pretty much nothing left of me (C'tis) after countless years of warring with mictlan, swapping provinces and simply killing each others mages and troops off. At least I can draw some comfort from the fact that I outlived him :)

So, I'm willing to call it Patala's victory (Ultimate gateway, right...) unless no-one else thinks they can oppose him in the race to godhood.

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You mean, one day you'll crack all three of the domes on my capital ;).

I've been struggling against both Ulm and Abysia, and whilst I've been crushing their armies by and large, I've also lacked the troops to exploit and make big territorial gains. Although I've finally become very strong in SC/troops and was ready for a big push when Patala attacked, being stalled for so long has exhausted my empire in gems and gold.

I can probably make Patala's life somewhat difficult for a while with the firepower I have left should everyone fancy an all-out assault, but equally I'd agree to concede if all others do.

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Haha, I had to fight off Man, Bogarus, and the occasional Pythium while dealing with C'tis. I thought I was going to outlive C'tis, but then I miscalculated on my dominion candles. Good job Revo!

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Hmph. Nobody notices the little hoburg priests sneaking about doing their thing.

Oh, wait, that was kinda the point. Nevermind, carry on. :)

On to the topic at hand, I'm a bit on the fence. On one hand, I know full well I won't be able to stop Patala at this point with what I have, despite the generous donations from Marignon. At most, I figure I can be an annoyance for a few turns, but that's about it. On the other hand, if I know there's a proper war going on out there that might end up in Patala's fall, I've no problems at all with being said annoyance.

So it really comes down to how many people are willing to keep trying the impossible. In other words, I'm pretty much on the same lines as Agema here.

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I figured I'd show my map so those who don't have great scouting can see how the world is laid out at this time (hopefully pangea agrees to concede so that this does not come back to bite me :D) I'll share some more images and a rundown of my game once things are definitely over.


http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...in/patala2.png

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Holy crap. *towel tossed into ring*.

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First thing that comes to mind when seeing that was:

Oh my me, we're all so very screwed.

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Yeah, I've got the usual army of undead, but not much else to brag about. I concede.

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Hmm, my scouting hadn't been in the far northwest for quite a while, I knew Patala dominated the centre but I had no idea they were quite that widespread.

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Very well, I guess I'll let you guys fight Patala for a few turns and then declare the game finished :)

Unless everyone want to finish it now.

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I think you might just want to end it Quitti...with 2-4 players who have conceded and 2 who are on the fence about fighting on. Hosting is coming up pretty quick and it looks like there are defiantly a few who are going to stale who figured it was finished.

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Indeed. I might as well end it - Congratulations to Revolution, Player of Patala, who won the game. A supreme god above all (and so on). The game will be finished tomorrow unless I hear strong objections.

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I got pretty lucky this game...I started out with my capital literally two provinces away from Mictlan's capital. I was reasonably concerned...even with an awake SC god there is not much I could have done against a bless rush...thankfully Mictlan agreed to a NAP and eventually seemed to get mired in a war with literally all his neighbors. I was able to expand reasonably rapidly but my position was really exposed, I was surrounded on all sides but I was reasonably happy with the amount of land I had so I established NAP's with Pythium, Man, Jomon Pangea and Abysia (I was really a big pacifist in the early game). My early focus was to get as many cheap castles up as possible as quickly as possible to jump start my research while site searching as much as I could. Tien Chi had been complaining about his weak start location (and it was quite bad) and when I saw that he was my neighbor and that his god was a crone and was out manually site searching I figured he'd be a relatively easy kill in the early game and would have the potential to be a big pain the the *** if allowed to live to the late game. So I banded together with Abysia and we were able to dispatch Tien chi...unfortunately I underestimated the ai and ended up sitting on his capital and another castle that the ai built in the north for what seemed like an eternity. I had planned to dominion kill him but his dominion was quite persistent and lived on in abysia's northern land where aby had no temples. When I did eventually successfully storm his capital I took it with ease but my god (The destroyer of worlds) took some light damage and managed to get feeble minded. Not a huge deal since my early expansion was over; he would sit on Tien's capital doing nothing for the rest of the game.

I was lucky enough to find 2 indy mage sites...Gnomes E2N2, very useful battle mages and wizards who gave me access to all magical paths and have a natural 10rp/turn for 180 gold. I quickly researched my way up to Maelstrom and put that up and with hammers proceeded to clam like a *****. I was making an average of 4 clam of pearls/turn for quite a while, I ended up stopping at 50 clams. C'tis having well of misery had me concerned so I eventually overwrote it with my own and picked up some nice death unique items. Most of my death gems ended up going into liches, I ended up with 6 of them and would use them to cast manifestation and leprosy...Marignon and Atlantis took most of them, despite the fact that they are anonymous spells I did not throw them against people I had NAP's with.

Jomon and Marignon went to war somewhat early on...I had pretty good scouting the whole game and watched most of the battles. Despite generally taking heavy losses due to Mari's impressive PD Jomon seemed to have achieved an advantage over Mari and killed his god when he accepted peace and they returned to prewar borders. I considered attacking and trying to wipe out Jomon at this point but he was pretty new to multiplayer and I had given him some advice and kind of felt bad about attacking him...so I ended up sitting around summoning/forging. All my neighbors seemed to be stagnating...the eastern powers were destroying each other with no nation seemingly managing to achieve an advantage. Eventually Pythium went ai and so did Jomon so I moved in on the two nations simultaneously. I took an undefended province of Pythium's (I had scouts all over Pythiums land and he would always be leaving provinces with 0 PD...drove me nuts but I did not want to fight hydra masses. When I took the province the ai decided to send some human made hydra armies my way...an unpleasant surprise, I had seen what those things did to bogarus's nice SC's and I was not really prepared to fight them...So I kept the AI's armies at bay by constantly killing all its commanders with earth attacks and manifestations. To the west jomon gave me some nasty surprises as well. The AI can be pretty serious business with human created armies in its hands. I had a cavalry mass overrun a large astral mage force with an infantry front that was not big enough to properly protect it, and his astral mages made using my SC's a dangerous prospect. Eventually though I wore down and conquered most of both these nations and in Pythiums land found the ultimate gateway.

By now my SC force was really strong...Marignon was fighting Pangea and Atlantis was fighting Atlantis, I gave them some aid with remote spells when I'd see a big stack of troops from Marignon or Atlantis. At this point I was pretty sure I would win and was just trying to weaken/demoralize my enemies to make them a bit softer down the road. With my SC's I was able to take over most of C'tis in 1 turn and had it all in two (except for the castles which I was content to leave under siege) Mictlan was dominion killed and I ended up splitting his land with Man before giving Man warning on our NAP. I was careful not to fight Ulm because I wanted the ai to continue focusing on Atlantis.

At this point Marignon was pretty much dead and Abysia still had a lot of land but his armies and mages were pretty much destroyed by Atlantis. Man had invested most of his money in PD...I couldn't even get scouts into his land but I knew that my SC's would easily dispatch any number of unsupported PD. The only threats to my power as I saw it were Pangea and Atlantis. I had talked to Pangea and he indicated he didn't really want to fight me and knew I was in a much more powerful position than him so I sent troops south to start raiding Atlantis and started striking in Abysia to claim some of his vast amounts of undefended land. That's pretty much it, thanks for the game everyone!


Sorry bout the wall of boring text :D

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Interesting - I mainly bombarded mictlan and forged/summoned stuff with those death gems - I could've done better, but since Bogarus wanted me to start fighting Mictlan the same time as him, and I thought he was an easy opponent with Man and Bogarus by my side - Unfortunately Man started doing something else, and Bogarus went AI. That left me pretty much alone against Mictlan, and as a added bonus the Bogarus AI decided to attack me. And all this while starting in probably one of the lousiest positions in the game - I think I had 2 waste and 2 mountain provinces next to my cap, with closest mountain/farmlands (best ones around up there) 3-4 turns away.

Still, it was an interesting game for the most part.