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cleveland November 16th, 2008 05:00 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Upload Pretenders - Starts 11/17
 
Alright! After some unexpected difficulties, we're cleared for takeoff by Captain llamabeast. Though I do want to thank lch, who very graciously offered to host the game if llamaserver fell through.

Kindly do the following:

1) Upload your pretenders ASAP. Follow the llamaserver instructions HERE. Do not forget to disable all mods! The title of your email to pretenders[ at ]llamaserver[ dot ]net should be ComfortZone. If you don't submit your pretender by Monday, 17 Nov @ 12noon GMT, you'll be PM'd a reminder. If you don't submit by 17 Nov @ 11pm GMT, you will be replaced.

2) Download the map file in the first post EVEN IF YOU ALREADY HAVE FALLACY, and unzip in your dominions3/maps directory. It's slightly different to mesh with llamaserver.

:up:

hunt11 November 16th, 2008 05:28 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Upload Pretenders - Starts 11/17
 
Llamaserver is not excepting pretenders right now

llamabeast November 16th, 2008 05:31 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Upload Pretenders - Starts 11/17
 
I think it is, isn't it?

BesucherXia November 16th, 2008 05:34 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Upload Pretenders - Starts 11/17
 
It could be a bug. The game setting says "max no players" instead of "no limits"

llamabeast November 16th, 2008 05:42 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Upload Pretenders - Starts 11/17
 
Hmm, something funny happened to this one. It seems to have tried to start with no players. You'll probably need to create it again - use a name like ComfortZone2 or something.

cleveland November 16th, 2008 07:39 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Upload Pretenders - Starts 11/17
 
OK! Second time's a charm.

The game is now called ComfortZone2. Please follow the above instructions, but instead send your pretender in an email titled ComfortZone2

Cheers,
cleveland


Ignore everything in red. It's still not working.

Llama, from llamaserver: "Game ComfortZone2 is already full."

....?

I set the # of players to "No Limit"...presumably the problem is with this setting?

JimMorrison November 16th, 2008 10:17 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Llamaserver debug...
 
Game: ComfortZone2
Middle Age, max No players

Map: ComfortZone
Mods: None

Nations joined so far:
None


Actually, I think you're right Cleveland, there may be a glitch in the "No Limit" setting itself. I think this happened to someone else awhile back, and it was fine when he set a finite number of players.

llamabeast November 17th, 2008 09:52 AM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Llamaserver debug...
 
Ah, you're doing a good job of uncovering the bugs in the LlamaServer's create game pages. Indeed, it turns out that I never wrote any code for the "No limit" option, so t just stuck "No limit" in a file where a number would normally go, causing a degree of confusion to the server.

Anyway, I have fixed that now, so you can now use that option without problems. Further, I'll free up the name "ComfortZone", so you can use it again.

licker November 17th, 2008 11:15 AM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Llamaserver debug...
 
Great, I won't be able to get in my pretender for another 10 hours or so, but am happy to get this thing started, even if it's only to have it pause again next week ;)

cleveland November 17th, 2008 12:55 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Submit Pretenders - Starts 18 Nov
 
OK! Third time's a charm.

The official Llamaserver name is A1ComfortZone, so it should be easy to find in the phonebook. Please follow the instructions HERE, but instead send your pretender in an email titled A1ComfortZone.


Please note that the deadline to submit your pretenders is now delayed by 24hrs: If your pretender is not uploaded by Tuesday, 18 Nov @ 12noon GMT, you'll be PM'd. If it's not uploaded by 18 Nov @ 11pm GMT, you'll be replaced.

Cheers,
cleveland

cleveland November 17th, 2008 11:36 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Submit Pretenders - Starts 18 Nov
 
Pretenders are due in just under 9hrs.

Cheers,
cleveland

cleveland November 18th, 2008 08:26 AM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Submit Pretenders - Starts 18 Nov
 
We are waiting on just 2 more pretenders. The game has now been set to automagically begin on their arrival. Both overlords have been PM'd, so we can expect to start shortly :up:

Cheers
cleveland

cleveland November 18th, 2008 03:01 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Submit Pretenders - Starts 18 Nov
 
JimMorrison,

I'm not sure if you've checked your PMs today, I'm afraid if you don't submit your pretender in the next 4hrs, I'll have to give ATLANTIS to slayers_ai.

If you're a work & can't send PMs, email me at dom3cleveland[ at ]gmail[ dot ]com.

Cheers,
cleveland

JimMorrison November 18th, 2008 03:15 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Submit Pretenders - Starts 18 Nov
 
Hey I'm here, just getting moving and then I was going to do a final check on my pretender. Not meaning to hold things up, I just had a kind of long night last night. :p

cleveland November 18th, 2008 04:28 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Game is live!

Good luck everyone.

-Man

Purgatorio November 21st, 2008 06:03 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Silly question here. How is it possible that Abysia research is already at 116? Am I doing something wrong?

http://www.llamaserver.net/showScore...=A1ComfortZone

JimMorrison November 21st, 2008 06:19 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
116 is odd. The Llamaserver tracks total points though (from the scoregraph), not current rate. So if he started with an awake high magic rainbow/researcher, it's possible, but he's sacrificed a lot to get that pretender out there with that many paths.

Also, has anyone else been screwed with excessively powerful indies? I had to check the settings to confirm that the game started at Strength 5..... 2 of my neighbors are Sea Trolls and Kraken (both, no one in each), and most of the rest are no pushover militias. o.O

licker November 21st, 2008 07:07 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Purgatorio (Post 654757)
Silly question here. How is it possible that Abysia research is already at 116? Am I doing something wrong?

http://www.llamaserver.net/showScore...=A1ComfortZone

All you are doing wrong is not surrendering to the massive research lead abysia already has.

Certainly all resistance is pointless, and you should simply kneel before the true god of the world.

A wise man once said 'knowledge is power', and verily this will be proven true. Well assuming that no one else bothers to get any knowledge for themselves...

vfb November 21st, 2008 07:37 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Indies are normal in the land of the lizards, but it is just a wee bit crowded in our neck of the woods!

Mithras November 21st, 2008 08:01 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Oceania has been having its backside handed to it by independants, but then what did you expect? I had one unlucky event though so I'm blaming everything on that :D
Hope we're all having fun!

DonCorazon November 21st, 2008 08:19 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
News from Shinuyama:
Religious scholars in Shinuyama are heatedly debating whether saying "the One Who Should Not be Named" is a actually referring to the one who should not be named, and thus blasphemy. Its quite perplexing for our goblin minds. We are contemplating the adoption of a symbol (like the US singer once known as Prince) to resolve the religious dilemma.

vfb November 21st, 2008 08:25 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Blasphemer!

***vfb chucks a rock at DonCorazon

Mithras November 21st, 2008 08:56 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Hmm, scholar from Oceiania says
If 'he who must not be named' materializes (it wont of course, being a false idol) will it be blaspheming itself by being in existance (As surely existing is akin to being named as to exist one must be named...) And thus will it get stoned?
Oceiania demands rocks be thrown at the god of Shinuyama for the crime of blashemy agaisnt itself.
All worship Brian, the one true god.

vfb November 21st, 2008 09:28 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Ooooooh!

***vfb chucks a rock at Mithras

Otherling November 22nd, 2008 01:11 AM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
The fact that your god's name can be comprehended by mortal minds in the first place is the very proof of its falsehood. This is why the Machakans worship the true god, Ahktalana (not our god's name, but rather Machakan for "name which cannot be pronounced").

Mithras November 22nd, 2008 03:54 AM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
We just spent several lines explaining the oposite. If a god has no name it cannot exist, or it blashemes agaisnt itself ergo Brain is the best name for a god, not only is it memorable but it is easy to chant when all you've got is gills :D

cleveland November 22nd, 2008 09:29 AM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Excerpt from the Nation of Man's contribution to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:


"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. Q.E.D."

"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

Mithras November 22nd, 2008 09:47 AM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Man then goes on to prove that black is white and gets killed on the nearest zebra crossing :D
I love Douglas Adams

cleveland November 24th, 2008 01:38 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
All,

I hope everyone's enjoying the limited elbowroom of ComfortZone.

Just a reminder, this game will be postponed from Wed, Nov 26th to Monday, Dec 1st with quickhost off.

Cheers,
cleveland

licker November 24th, 2008 03:22 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
I'm not sure if 'enjoying' is the right word...

buckle up folks the rides about to get bumpy...

cleveland November 26th, 2008 12:39 AM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
All,

Rabe, leader of R'lyeh, has had a family emergency, per his post in the MP board.

Unfortunately, I didn't see his message until after CZ hosted.

I think it's appropriate to begin the planned Thanksgiving break a bit early, and have therefore set the game to host at 4:45 GMT on Dec 2nd. However, I will leave quickhost on for the next 18hrs, just in case everyone can get one last turn in, and will turn quickhost back on at 18:00 GMT on Dec 1st.

Cheers,
cleveland

alhorro November 26th, 2008 01:13 AM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Hmm, but as I see, Rabe is Jotun leader and his turn was in time.

And as for the break — why don't you just set the interval to 7 days and leave quickhost on?

cleveland November 26th, 2008 01:23 AM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alhorro (Post 655650)
Hmm, but as I see, Rabe is Jotun leader and his turn was in time.

Ah. I'm a bad host who doesn't check the roster before stating his assumptions. My mistake.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alhorro (Post 655650)
And as for the break — why don't you just set the interval to 7 days and leave quickhost on?

Because invariably someone won't be able to/won't want to play, and won't submit his turn until 1hr before the hosting deadline. Meanwhile, the rest of us will spend an entire week splitting our time between punching refresh on our inbox and publishing scathing diatribes on the boards about how inconsiderate that one guy is. Unnecessary drama, considering the delay is completely unavoidable, particularly with so many players. In my very humble opinion.

Fakeymcfake November 26th, 2008 03:07 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
But.... I was already working up a rough draft of my diatribe with convenient blank spaces so as I could easily fill in the name of whomever aforementioned last minute one guy is.

DRAT IT ALL, MY WORK IS FOR NAUGHT!!!

cleveland November 26th, 2008 04:53 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Your welcome, previously-destined-to-be-filled-in-the-blanks guy. Enjoy your awkward Scotch with Uncle Creepy, guilt free. :)

cleveland November 26th, 2008 05:01 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Alright. Quickhost will be disabled in 3hrs. If you can't get your turn in before then, no big deal, I'll eat the criticism. To those in celebration of Thanksgiving (and now, more than ever, Black Friday), I wish you a happy holiday. To those who aren' t: on behalf of the US: sorry about that whole credit meltdown thing. Spend money, please. The only thing we have to fear is complete global economic meltdown itself.

See you Monday. :)

cleveland December 1st, 2008 03:01 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
OK, the game is officially back online!

Quickhost is back on, and with only 1 nation left to submit, the game will host in around 12hrs.

Cheers,
cleveland

cleveland December 2nd, 2008 10:38 AM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
It seems Real Life has reared it's ugly head at our friend Caec, the overlord of Caelum, who has asked me to find a sub for his nation.

I've asked him to play an additional turn if we can't find a replacement before the next hosting. If you know anyone who'd like to take over a solid MA nation that's currently in 3rd place on the Dominion graph, has a healthy gem income, and got one of the 4 corners in a cramped map, please have them post on this thread...first come, first served.

Cheers,
cleveland

qio December 2nd, 2008 01:15 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Ok, I can sub Caelum. See PM cleveland.

slayers_ai December 2nd, 2008 03:47 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
opps, seems i am late again. :)

DonCorazon December 2nd, 2008 04:15 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
The situation in our neighborhood is comedy. My neighbors include such heavyweights as Ashdod, Pangea and Pythium. Some capitals are almost right on top of each other and war has already begun while a swathe of indy provinces is just sitting there fallow. Not sure why we all seemed to head in the same directions or people go to war with anything they see. We'd ask He Who Cannot Be Named for wisdom but the divine leader is now sitting in our capital collecting pigeon droppings, after an unfortunate run-in with the lovely Wat. In other news, Arcos decided to get in the underwater province game starting another early game conflagration.

Shin predicts winner of this game will be the cat who sits in the corner while the dogs tear themselves apart.

hunt11 December 2nd, 2008 04:49 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
That's why Ashod is preposing a solution to this mix up. Instead of a mix of nations, their be one chaotic empire that as soon as world domination is achieved, we turn on our previous allies in the most bloody and short end game imaginable :D.

Really though, this has to take the cake for bad starting positions.

licker December 2nd, 2008 04:59 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Abysia agrees that the starting positions were screwy.

As our pathetic income attests, we have not seen a province with more than 6k pop in our general area. Thus making our only choice to take one with 30k+...

Still the corner nations have a massive advantage on this map it would seem, we'll see if they translate it into anything or not.

Nikelaos December 2nd, 2008 05:10 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
the pink community of tien chi declares war, not really for land but just to see those hot sweaty warrior bodies, meow.

cleveland December 2nd, 2008 06:28 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Rabble rabble rabble!

Who the hell thought Fallacy would be a good idea?!?

:)

cleveland December 2nd, 2008 08:18 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
OK, so qio has officially taken over Caelum from Caec. Hosting will be postponed by 12hrs to give him a chance to get his feet underneath him; the new deadline is 21:50 GMT on Wednesday December 3rd.

Cheers,
cleveland

JimMorrison December 3rd, 2008 01:49 AM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cleveland (Post 656910)
Rabble rabble rabble!

Who the hell thought Fallacy would be a good idea?!?

:)


No comment. :re:

cleveland December 4th, 2008 10:20 AM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Nations of the world, rejoice!

Mismeasure, Prince of Strength, The Rock, Pantokrator II, of Man has awoken!

And to get things off on the right foot, He, as a demonstration of His infinite strength and unrivaled power, decided to rough-up a local feeble old witch for her magically powerful marble-rye bread. The exchange:


MISMEAURE: Gimme that rye!

CRONE: Stop it. Let go. Help! Someone, help!

Mismeasure wrests the rye from the old lady's grip.


MISEASURE: Shut up, you old bag!

Mismeasure races away down the street with the rye.

CRONE: (shouting after him) Thief! Stop him! Stop him, he's got my rye! CURSE!


That's right. In spite of paying for a Luck scale, my pretender awoke, and was immediately cursed by the stupid Vengeful Witch event.

I swear to Mismeasure, I've never had worse luck in a game...it was bad enough getting the the Brigands-Have-Taken-Up-Residence-in-a-Ruin event on f-ing turn 2, and getting my only useful Crone of Avalon diseased during this past Winter, but this Receiving-A-Cursed-Pretender business takes the cake. :mad:

DonCorazon December 4th, 2008 12:40 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
I am glad someone else sounds as miserable as me this game.

Imagine a neighbor who leaves 2 of the provinces adjacent to his capital unconquered while he beelines straight for you and petrifies your pretender, or another neighbor who sees an empty-Shin controlled ocean province (the kappa's were on shore leave) and thinks he can waltz in with a few mermen like nothing is going to happen.

What a debacle! PS starting wars with the first nation you see is not generally a good strategy for long-term success (unless you're Ashdod). I hope to prove that (shortly). :)

JimMorrison December 4th, 2008 02:23 PM

Re: ComfortZone - All MA Nations - Running
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonCorazon (Post 657264)
What a debacle! PS starting wars with the first nation you see is not generally a good strategy for long-term success (unless you're Ashdod). I hope to prove that (shortly). :)

And Ashdod seems to be getting beaten down by TC already. ;) Hard to say who is actually winning, they're both awfully small.....


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