Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Well, according to the Pretenders of the World report, chrispederson grabbed MA Mictlan instead of EA Mictlan, thereby making him the only nation (Mictlan of all things) in the game without natural Blood.

Since it's so early in the game, restarting is not much trouble. However, I'll be leaving for Florida tomorrow, so I won't start the game back up until I get back next Thursday.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Game has been un-started. It is now back to the "Waiting for Pretenders" screen. Game is now officially on hiatus until I return from vacation.

Re: Betelgeuse - On Hiatus - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Please ignore the false extra start there, that was a glitch.

Re: Betelgeuse - On Hiatus - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Well, if we are having a restart (which I have absolutely no problem with btw) can I drop out of the game. I have looked into my crystal ball and in the summer, when this game really gets going I am going to be too busy to play.

Sorry about that guys! If its possible just delete Ea Helheim pretender when re-starting or if anyone wants to join and play Ea Helheim, feel free to upload your pretender file over mine.

I would have liked to play but just not enough hours in the day.:(

Re: Betelgeuse - On Hiatus - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Huh.. Obviously I sent the wrong pretender to the wrong game. Mea culpa. I'm just glad we restarted *before* this was noticed.

I'll send the right pretender tonight if I'm allowed.

Re: Betelgeuse - On Hiatus - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Delete me as well---four games is enough :)

Re: Betelgeuse - On Hiatus - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Sorry to see you go klag - you were in my first mp game here.

Re: Betelgeuse - On Hiatus - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

heck Chris, ya brought me back. One of the games might be over by then...pretty sure Megablob about to squish me out of existence in Qwerty. Just hope I get the same starting spot I had last time :)

Re: Betelgeuse - On Hiatus - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

YAy! Welcome back!

Re: Betelgeuse - On Hiatus - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Yeah, my start spot had Sauromatia written all over it. I licked it. Then I peed in the corner. Remember that if you get it. :shock:

You were also in my first MP, Klagrok, glad you're with us. 8 )

Re: Betelgeuse - On Hiatus - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Star has asked me to stand in while he's away, if there's anything that really requires administrative work.

Re: Betelgeuse - On Hiatus - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

In a holding pattern until we get this thing going for real!

Re: Betelgeuse - On Hiatus - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

We get new starting positions!
NO!

Guess you cant get ur favorite capitol spot every time

Re: Betelgeuse - On Hiatus - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

QM has decided to sub for star until star's return. so I am going to start the game as soon as I verify all the dead nations are gone = )

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Hmm, I seem constantly out of sync with this game (it's my only one on 24h), I'll need another 2-3 hours on the clock to be able to get my turn in.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Game delayed 3 hours per request.
I think this will be the last turn QM submits .. so I'd like to say thanks again.

Tempted to have QM 'sub' my position for a few turns so he can improve it as well = )

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Thank you all for being patient with me. As of this moment, I am now back in business.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

I'd like to compliment rtyffg on a brilliant choice of nations.

Having carrion woods pre researched on difficult research game was a brilliant choice.

That 6 nature and 3 death income - on top of his normal nature income is huge this early. And non dispellable. And I presume he's projecting dominion into his neighbors....

Anyone know what section of the world he is?

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

That global is not as impressive as you present it.
Yes, it does give some gem income. It does bring some chaff. But it does kill people.
So neigbours have yet to consider, wheter it is better to attack Pangaea (and have siege it for long time (up to 30 turns in some cases)), or wait till it makes Pan's own lands useless and weakened.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

if you own plenty of forest and put temples in those forests it produces way more than some chaff. Growth, Strong Dominion, Forest + Temple and you get a regular supply of pretty fine creatures from that province.

But yes generally it produces chafftastic amounts of chaff.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

To put it another way, if pan's neighbours wait for Carrion Woods to deplete its population, there will be little left worth conquering. An early attack is the only way to ensure maximum spoils. Every turn the return keeps dropping..

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

A few questions.

What was meant by pre research the spell? Isn't a level 0 spell in this mod? Or do you mean he had his pretender pre configured for it?

He must of been site searching and alchmizing to produce the needed 50+ gems?

It's death scale that improves the result of this spell? From the text of the spell itself it sounds like +growth dominion improves the effects.

Tune of Dancing death 31+stun dmage aoe 25.
Guys that just seems wrong to me some how. What are the counters to this? Anti magic, archers and ranged damage... What else?

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Level 0, so he can cast it from turn 1, and yes he'd need to design his pretender specifically for that purpose.


It's Point Blank AOE. So, beating on the caster with sticks, is one effective counter. :p

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

1) Tried some tests, and it seems, +growth increases chaff numbers, nothing seems to increase gem output from it.

1) 1-st turn cast does not seem possible. Site searching is helpful, but MA PAN have a 5N income, alloving to cast it on turn 10 without search (most Early possible cast is at turn 7 without gem events)

2) Tune of Dancing death - it is not reliable enough, if an enemy is in range for it, then mage is probably doomed already.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

That is not true, at all. Pan probably has a carrion dragon; he will be trying to fight within his dominion. In that case he will have between 240 and 320 hp around now.

Even without an undead priests healing him (an excellent tactic courtesy of cleveland) a carrion dragon may have awe, and will have significant fear.

Personally, I prefer tune of growth over tune of death - especially with an obscene fear aura - but either works. And the carrion dragon has recuperation to take care of any afflictions that occur.

Combine that with a centaur reanimated priest or prophet casting pangeas buffs - very potent indeed.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Hmm, carrion dragon with awe, and carrion woods tends to eat up too much design points, at least when trying to make it awakened.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

I would think that the most efficient design would be Dormant, with the exact paths needed to cast Carrion Woods, and with a Dominion around 7. You only -need- the Awe for solo work, but with Carrion Woods you will have readily available chaff to help screen the dragon..... If you have any buffers to assist, then it becomes a force that is almost invincible throughout the second year.

The question is, can the slow-ish first year expansion, and the Carrion spawn from that small amount of territories, be made up for with a second year rush, and is there a neighbor near enough who is grabbing their ankles in anticipation of the coming of the dragon? ;) (of course, graphs show Pan above the middle of the pack, so expansion has been adequate thus far, anyways)

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

I was not meaning to say that I thought Pan had awe; I was trying to say that by no means is tune of dancing death or tune of growth unworkable.

Done correctly, Gorgons, Pans, Dryads, and Carrion Dragons can make effective use of these spells, right off the top of my head. So can the harpy queen hero.

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As for design choices: T3S3HXG3L3M1 leaves lots of points....

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

I would imagine that spell in particular, is aimed precisely at Dryads who can safely hide tucked within size 2 line troops, and can avert most attacks that are directed at them, with their own Awe.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

I did not receive any turn updates after I sent in turn 13... is it a problem with my email or with the server? I've received everything else fine until now!

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

llamaserver shows your turn as being received - you are utgard yes?

p.s. check your inbox if you haven't already

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Turn 13 said it was due by 1500 GMT Thursday, but I guess it got delayed a bit. I just got turn 14 and a note that says "The next 2h file is due in by 06:05 GMT on Saturday March 7th." so I'm good, thanks. Is there a command to see what turn each game on llamaserver is on?

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Llamaserver

Try that.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Great, thanks for the tip!

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

I won't be able to submit my turn tomorrow, so I'm going to have to delay hosting for a day.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

I'll have somewhat sporadic internet access from Thursday for two weeks, would it be possible to switch to the extended turn periods by then - only a little earlier than the 20th?

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Sure, I don't see a problem with that. I'll switch it to 48 hour hosting tomorrow.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Looks like that's curtains for me. I just lost nearly all my army to an offensive number of Minotaurs and Maenads, and now Sauromatia decides it wants a piece of me too. There's just no way for me to hold out against two huge armies at this point, so it looks like it's AI for Lanka.

I will still be admining this game however, so if anyone has any problems, drop me a PM.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

I wondered what was going on with you. You were just sitting there looking all small and juicy. <3

But that means I have to fight some stinky minotaurs over your capital? That's silly. I hope Pan knows what I can do to their Maenads. ;)

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Yeah, I couldn't expand fast enough, so it's understandable why you and Pan thought that. I've never played Lanka before anyway, so at least I know now this strategy won't work.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

I find Lanka to be amazingly fun to play. You should just give them some more SP practice, it took me a bit of SP with them to figure out how to bring all of their tools together.

I'll drop you a note, the least I can do in exchange for your capital, is offer you some useful advice. ;)

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Now we are back again to 24hr automatic turns. I won't be able to keep up with that.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

This last turn and this one- I am not getting turns is anyone else having the same problem?

After I reset the email address and reseent - I got the turn.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Got my turn fine Chris. Not sure what is happening on your end.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

As you've probably noticed, Llamaserver is having technical difficulties at the moment. Just take it easy for a while, we'll all be back on the warpath tomorrow, or the day after probably.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Is hosting going to go back to its normal time period at some point?

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

I assume the reason I havent recieved a turn for awhile is the patching process.

I've got no worries and no hurries, just naxious to see how my battles turn out.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Do I submit turn 21 with the old version or new version of the game? I submitted with the old version awhile ago and Llamaserver seemed fine with it...

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

You can ask for resend turn file, down on the page.
Version numbers should not matter.

Re: Betelgeuse - Blood for the Blood Gods!! - Blood Nations CBM Single Age
 

Could we kick the game back into a higher gear?