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This was about the "I'm not getting any turns unless I ask for the turn to be resent, in which case I get two" thing I've been talking to you about the week or two.

And, as I also said in email .. it seems to be working again.

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I'm a little confused - sometime back you announced we had a nap Tolkien yet, you attacked without notification. Can you clarify?

I thought this was a little against the spirit of the game - but I guess I'd just like to know where we stand and whats going to happen.

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I wasunder the impression that this was a no diplomacy game. Otherwise I would have tried some. Of course diplomacy isn't really an issue when you have one obvious leader. :D

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Yeah I agree Steurm. I have been very careful not to talk except that one slip up.

I haven't actually attacked anyone in this game, except they attacked me first.

I probably should have gotten tolkien to rescind or clarify what he said earlier - but as I haven't attacked anyone before now it hasn't mattered before now.

Still, I'd like to know what to expect.

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Those were my spys. I didn't know scouting was an act of war. :p

THIS turn I invaded. Being an ND game, I didn't think the NAP was going to be binding. If it wasn't, I would've notified you a few turns ago, 3 or 4.

Besides, I'm tired of sitting on my hands and building up blood slaves. I want to use them. :(

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Scouting isn't an act of war, however you attacked last round as well.

I feel a little disadvantaged; I wish you had clarified earlier. So I have now been attacked by all 3 players with no notice = ).

Fair enough, I shall do my best - although the advantage of surprise and two big militaries against me.. I will have to be a nelson to win this.

Ah well.. let loose the dogs of war!

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Because the advantages provided by 3 globals and a several advanced field armies aren't enough? :D

The following is not diplomacy. :angel
Remember I trail at third in most graphs apart from the giant chaff armies. However I'm obviously no speed bump and invading me at this point would be a very bad move, because any party that attempted this (with or without the aid of a theoretical thrid party) would then be left weakened facing said third party.

Obviously I notice that the same applies to certain parties and see that hostilaties agaisnt such parties would be detrimental before some theoretical third parties are marginalised, through seperate but cohesive action on multiple fronts.

Oh and in regard to the indiscriminate weapon I am using. Realise that it is intended to a) Prevent the use of the same by theoretical third parties b) Destroy key components in the advanced armies of theoretical third parties c) Deal little damage to certain economies like say blood hunting and the use thereof.

*Whistles* :D

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My millitary isn't that big at all: it's rather small compared to Mithras'. It's just concentrated on your border and my border forts. Mostly you're just going to have to worry about blood SCs dropping in on you and my magic, I got 300 slaves stored up and ready to go.

Father Illearth hungers for blood. :p

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llamaserver down. Game will be delayed till tomorrow.

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Hope you don't mind the astral corruption Tolkien, been watching you a bit and it seems you don't use nearly as many non blood slaves as chris, and I had a few slaves to burn. Oh and sorry about the misfiring wild hunt, it still hasn't netted me any of chris' nice battle priests yet... (although I did get one of his blood mages which is odd because I'm sure the spell said powerfful priests, oh well.)

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Not at all. I've got waaaay too many slaves anyway. Besides, at Blood-9 and claws of Inferno/Cocytcos, I'm not really afraid of any horrors anyway.

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Zoinks?

Astral corruption?

Guys I have found 2 bugs in this game: I'm not getting generic summons. And Province pd is not working right.

I don't propose to stop the game.. but ....

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Can you elaborate on the issues? And I think we can, if you need it.

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Sheesh, for not coordinating.. you guys are doing a hell of a job double teaming me.

Betweeen the two of you, you've got 4 schools up to 9 - I don't have any!!!.

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Four? I only have one up to 9 (construction is at 8).

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So here is what I found after careful inspection:

Issue: A

#defmult defaults to 20
however, I don't think the #defmult1b works at all and needs to be specified.

How this shows up in the game: I bought a bunch of PD- the second unit in the PD is supposed to be villains. I didn't get any.

So we've either got a game bug or a module bug - and I'd rather believe it was module.


Issue: B

No one has gotten the any heros - because there is a syntax error in the #heros command.


I've corrected the .dm (in the first post.) The only file that needs replacing is the UlmCivil...dm

Don't do it until llama notifies us that the server is patched. I've sent him an email.

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And by the way.. thank you for being a sport.
But no, now that we *all* know that PD is half as strong as it should be and why, I'm willing to continue a little while until llama can fix the issue, presuming you both are.

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Sure.

Also: now I can finally get some heroes. I want the vampire one, I've always had a soft spot for him.

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I'd like to assure that I have a total of zero schools at nine. And yes um can't say I noticed the bugs... so yeah do what you need to.

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I'm experiencing minor technical difficulties which will stop me from getting turns in and, because I'm bone idle, it may take some time to fix. I am in a half decent postion (even if I'm last in the significant score graphs) and seeing I just put a few annoying globals up I would apreciate it if you found a sub for me... I don't think I'll have the time to put an advert up so sorry about the bother.
I really enjoyed this game, its a pity I'm probably going to miss getting crushed by chris... thanks.

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I'm not going down without a fight. :p

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Well that was a terrible turn for me. I didn't kit out Father Illearth well at all and now you've enslaved him. I even called forth the Abomination of Desolation (by pure luck) and you paralyzed him.

I'm almost willing to throw in the towel...but I still have a few tricks up my sleeve.

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Well, that was the plan.. I tried to make you route from troop loss and/or enslave him.

He's very interesting btw.. enslaved and sacred....

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And now Horror Marked. :p

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But this is one of the times horror marked is a *good* thing.
Even enslaved he can eat most horrors for breakfast.

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Mithras.. are you sure you can't play a few more turns?

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I've got about 2 minutes of computer time left. So sorry no.

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Sorry to see you go Mithras.. if you get this.
Best wishes.

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Hey Chris, you need to empty your mailbox so I can send you my email address.

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OK! Everyone update to the last version of ulmxxx.dm Alex has fixed it on llama.

this will have the lines in it

hero1
hero2
hero3....

whereas the old one left off the 1, 2,3.

Also, update your battle scripts. I changed the name of the spells from BlackChris' Blizzard .. to just Blizzard. Etc.

And PD's will now be the correct (stronger) strength.

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Doh, I caught an error on the new .dm.

At least I caught it before we ran. Only three players may use the same spell name. So we are back to different spell names.

SM Taking, SM Blizzard, SM darts etc.

Again this *will* mess up your battle scripts. I have postponed the game but will ask llama to host it whenever he has updated his copy.

I'd like to assure Fakey, this hasn't been the average of our game. While we are trying something new, we have gone many many turns between problems.

So check to make sure your ulm spells have a 2 letter abbreviation before their name.

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Hey, what's the hosting time set at and can we make it slightly longer? I'm somewhat pressed for time between working on my house and trying to work a long term plan of some sort into my newly aquired nation.

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Hmmm, I haven't noticed what the hosting time is; I'll check in a moment - if its short it was probably reset by llama when he fixed the mod.

Or I'm having a brain spasm.
What would you like the interval to be?

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48 hours would be nice. It's been at 24 hours for awhile now.

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48 hours works for me.

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We may have a problem... llamaserver is not processing. Since I didn't notice, I forced hosting.. still no result.. we may have two turns, whenever llama updates. Ignore the second.

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I have (or will have shortly) the current turns in. However, I have been called out of town Wed/Thursday, and so would like a 36 hour extension, delaying any processing on thursday to Fri/sat?

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I'm fine with that.

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works for me.

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well I almost had my turn done, when I noticed tolkien didn't have his in.. so I paused it...

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Silly me, forgot to send it in.

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Was that rollback really necessary? :p

Now I need to do something entirely different again.

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Uh, one of my Demon commanders lost all his gear and got turned into a ulm ranger... anyone care to explain?

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Ok, I think THAT warrants a rollback.

And an analysis of the code.

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this will almost guaranteed fix it:

make a new saved games folder.
download turn into (yes, must download)
run from there.

Check it out and let me know. If the problem persists absolutlely we can roll back.

However, I am 90% sure this will fix it. Has happened to me several times.

Re: Ulmish Civil Wars - All Ulm all of the time...
 

Tried it chris, didn't work. Want to rollback or just push on? To be honest my interest in this game is waning as Magellan and other games pick up.

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I am always willing to resolve things, whenever players think things look unfair. So if a rollback is desired no problem.

I actually think I have the game - I just plan on grinding it slowly out.

So let me know!

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For the moment, a delay should be made for this turn's hosting, so we can decide.

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Game rolled back and delayed 24 hours!

Re: Ulmish Civil Wars - All Ulm all of the time...
 

Well, I don't know if anyone uploaded a new turn, but.. it processed.. and I immediately get a Nagok error.

Can anyone run it?