Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge. EA, CBM, Sign Up and Discussion.
 

Jachra, welcome back, as a returning alternate you and the vets will be choosing nations first.

P3D, your in as well, though I would caution about getting into too many games at once. (depends on the settings, slowpace games and long playing games are different). If your sure you'll be able to commit, then I'd like you in the starting roster, if not then as an alternate.

I'd like to refine the teams a bit if possible in keeping with the spirit (green noobs vs best of the best).

Illuminated one, would you mind taking an alternate slot and switch places with P3D?

Lingchih, can you refine your team (maybe get Zeldor in and ask one of less experienced vets to go to alternate)?

I guess it is a go then, 10 vs 5 on Orania (God help us! I hope I can place everyone properly).

Jachra and vets, please choose your nations if you've not already done so (1 water nation max).

The rest of the noobs after them.

I will pick last.

We will be using 1.41c (attachment on main post) unless QM has something else ready to go before pretender uploads.

Noobs and Vets check in and signup to your respective forums (links are on main post).

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Actually the vet team looks pretty well-stacked, the only one I don't know is TheDemon, but everyone else I can say for sure is a very skilled player.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

thedemon plays on SA but hangs out in our IRC plenty....

so he is an unknown factor that is a veteran by some standards but unknown in our world

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Zeldor knows he is first alternate. Other than that, we are ready to go. In fact, I just built a brand new Mysteria for the game tonite.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Kick it off Sept!

And keep the team posts to a minimum of victory reports on the teamvet forum. I just noticed that anyone can view it, though not post to it. So the security is pretty lax. We'll keep the top secret stuff to IRC.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge. EA, CBM, Sign Up and Discussion.
 

Sept, don't you know we hate to lose? That last loss ripped everyone's heart out. I will not cripple this team. We are coming with all our might. We will not lose again. You guys want a lesson? The lesson is coming.

That said, Zeldor is still first alternate.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Okay, since it looks like all the noobs are selected and the game will be starting shortly, it's time to get you all signed up for the team noob forum. I'm going to change the way signingup will be handled as it just didn't really work last time.

This time around I will just have people register, they'll be automatically accepted by the forum. Then I'll have them pm me here with their name on the other forum, to make sure they're who they say they are, then I'll accept them into the Team Noob user group so they can see the strategic command forum. So please register before the game actually starts. If you do not you will miss out on the pre-game discussion stage, which is fairly important for team noob.

So to recap: 1) Register for the forum here. 2) On this forum, pm me with the username you chose for the other site. Preferably it will be the same username you are using here. 3) Wait for me to move you into the user group. I will tell you when this is done via a pm on this forum, unless you say you want to be notified in some other manner. 4) Tell me if for any reason something goes wrong, what went wrong, and how it went wrong and I will fix it as quickly as possible. I will then probably send you a pm telling you that it was fixed, or let you know in some other fashion.

If you played in the last noobs vs vets game and have an account on the other forum already you will not have to do any of that, as I have not deleted any users. So if you can't see the strategy forum by the end of tomorrow, give me a nudge and I'll fix that up for you.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Lingchih, it's completely possible to make it secure, there are other ways to do it than I have been doing it also, I'm just doing it the way I am because it's more security for less work for me. As long as you cannot see 4 forums on the team noob website, I can guarantee you it works. But if you're not that worried about it it's probably not a big deal :). If you are interested though I am willing to help you get it working.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Please (help) make the vet forum secure. The time zone separation between players is quite huge (I believe at least 10 hours between me and qm) so a forum could be useful.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge. EA, CBM, Sign Up and Discussion.
 

Is that per team or total?

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

As Zeldor went to a substitute status, I'd like to switch my nation pick to Hinnom.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

I sent lingchih a pm, I think he has what he needs to get your forum secure now.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

As far as I can tell everyone who was in the first team and is playing again is able to see the forum.

Also, I am NOT moving anyone in until they verify that they signed up this time. For example, an illuminated one has registered, but I am not putting this user into the proper user group unless I hear from illuminated one here that they and the illuminated one on the other forum are the same person.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

I'd advice not to allow any water nations, especially in EA, when they won't fight at all. If it's 1 water nation per team it means vets get the water and use it just to transfer funds to land. EA water nations are not really amphibious.

But well, I'm just an alternate :)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Lets not give away all the strats now, shall we Zeldor? :)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

If you don't want to allow water nations it might be best to go the deadly seas route, ea has a number of non-water nations with recruitable ambhipbious units.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Lol. Yeah, that was me.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge. EA, CBM, Sign Up and Discussion.
 

Caelum please.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Added.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

OK, with rdonj's help, I believe I have made the forum secure. Thanks very much rdonj! Would someone like to try and see it? to see if I did it correctly? Thanks.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

I clicked on the link to your forum on the first page of the thread - it wants me to log in now to see anything. So it seems pretty well secure. Post away!

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Due to objections from the other vets, I will not be playing Pan again.

I choose Niefelheim. My pretender, whatever it is, will still be named Mysteria (or Mysterio). It will be the ancient ancestor of the nefarious Mysteria from the first game.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge. EA, CBM, Sign Up and Discussion.
 

1 water nation total. I've no problem with QM keeping Oceania as I don't ban any nations as a rule. If they are not really amphibious, that's fine, it'll keep QM out of our hair.

I've placed starting positions for 14 land nations and 1 water nation. Whew!
As I feared, due to density, 1 noob will be centrally placed (still can have access but it will require coordination), more of a supporting position. Who was it that wanted a supporting role?

TheDemon (darn, I was going to take Caelum, can I bribe you to give it up)?

Ironhawk and Jachra choose nations, rest of the noobs follow.

Well it looks like we noobs shall be hard pressed this time around, with PYG, Aristander, and the others gone, but we shall see, never thought we'd win that first one to be honest. Heh. But coordination and communication can overcome alot. :)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Ancient ancestor? Come on... The whole game revolves around that whore. Oh well, how shall I reword the intro on the main post to reflect the escape of Mysteria and her ancient ancestor?

Mysteria having narrowly escaped ... summons her ancient ancestor for revenge? Sound good? I'll leave it to you.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Me.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Forums look quite secure, I doubt anyone would try anything anyway, especially some more advanced things. At least it's not outdated phpBB that every 11 year old could hack :)

Anyway - go go vets!

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

It's good you got your forum secure. Now let me in, I promise not to tell. :)

I see you vets are taking full advantage of first choice, Hinnom, Niefelhiem, plus you'll control the seas. Perhaps you will have a chance at avenging your humiliating defeat afterall.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Ok, then. Though, as one of our more experienced vets, I'd prefer to have you on the front, but whatever makes you happy.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge. EA, CBM, Sign Up and Discussion.
 

Only a little bit longer. We have 4/5 nations picked for the vets team. Mine is the only one still under debate. We will have a selection by tonight...

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

I'm not sure giving the vet team the only water nation is a good idea. I would say if you're going to have only one water nation, make it a noob. Either that or the noob team had better have a couple of amphibious nations. Otherwise you are just asking for it :P

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

I generally agree with you, it would mean though not fully honoring my promise and if EA Oceania has few amphibious troops, perhaps it won't be that bad. Name some amphibious nations for us, while your at it, me being a noob I don't know nuthin....

If QM doesn't take a water nation, he'll endup in a centralized supporting role on land amongst the other vets, as space is at a premium in the both areas. :)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

I forgot we were going back in time, still I'll leave it to you to come up with a short quick shallow backstory. Heh. :)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Fomoria and Agartha both have amphibious giants, and there are many death-heavy nations that don't have much trouble getting underwater with easy research. Having the single water nation is a bonus, but it won't be quiet in the lake. Oh, and I think Oceania was called on assumption that you wouldn't restrict water nations to one.

And I wouldn't yet fret too much about us calling strong nations, EA has plenty of those and it's still 2-to-1 uphill fight...

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

is there enough water for a water nation on each side

well since vets are still choosing, I'll give my two choices. I'll be either Tien Chi or Yomi

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

I CHOOSE YOMI!!!

Hehehe, just kidding Lavaere ;)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Yes, we are going back in time. Mysterio will be the ancient pretender god that created Mysteria. When he left this world, Mysteria eventually chose to try and take his position as the pancreator.

(heh, yeah it's kind of weak. But don't blame me. I would have played her again. The other vets vetoed me).

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

I believe the orignal Medusa was created by Zeus? Correct? So this would seem thematical.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

I apologize for the delay - the debate is over and the Vet team has finally settled on nation picks. They are as follows...

Atul: Atlantis
Quantum Mechani: Hinnom
TheDemon: Caelum
Lingchih: Neifelheim
Ironhawk: Helheim

With one caveat - our choice of Atlantis is based on us being the only water nation. If this changes and the noobs get a water nation too we reserve the right to switch out our water nation for a different choice.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Great, now we can pick our nations. I think Agartha could be fun. At least I'll definitely have better mages than LA Ulm from last game...

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Honestly, being on Standby/alternate is better for me unless I finish some of my games.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

That's fine. Be ready though, we may need you at some point.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

But how does Mysteria get her revenge in the early age. She must have somehow invoked the spirit of her ancestor Mysterio (who happens to belong to another nation :confused: after she fled, and mysterio then called us back into that age. Did you mean Pantokrator? :D

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

I don't know, pancreator is a pretty apt description of mysteria....

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Was only planning on one water nation (there's only 20 water provinces), adding another one, would mean a tough early fight for our noob.

As it stands I think I shall enact a Non Agression Pact for the first 10/15/20 turns, whatever is aggreeable to both teams.

Let me know which nation.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

Actually it's her time-travelling son who later on meets her mother and becomes her father. But don't tell anyone, she's a bit embarassed with the whole messing up the timeline ordeal.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

You could say that her ancestor scryed into the future and found out his descendant lost, so he decided to take revenge on the ones who defeated her in the past. Or something.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

I suppose so. Bah. I'd rather Ling just stick with Pan. So much simpler.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

When you say NAP do you mean NAP for the whole map? And if so what purpose would it serve?

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

I chose Abyssia

Re: Noobs vs. Vets II: Mysteria's Revenge, EA, CBM, Nation Selection Underway.
 

I think as the game focuses on magic a short NAP will give the noobs time to research something before Hinnom/Niefel stomps over their defenseless troops. ;)

I don't know does it have to be revenge? You could say that the events here gave rise to Mysteria in the first place or maybe made her evil.
Or you could go along Hindu myth and they that this is not before but after the last game. It's just that the last aeon has ended and in the new aeon everything starts anew with the early age.