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Interesting how they are attempting to hash out all the un-answered questions.
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Great new parody at treknation.
My new signature should read. Only one spelling mistake per sentance,less this one. ------------------ Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant! |
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This latest one did have some things that I don't quite agree with.
Like the part where Archer tells the girl they are from another world. She was like "ok". should she not have been a little more surpised at the lest. Also, when they kissed the first time, while that was very risky should there have not been something about making sure that he did not contract virus, I mean they are aliens after all. And the girl, didn't she seem just a little too easy??? Once again another pre to the P.M. provided by t'pol. It seems that alot of the fed rules were made up by non-humans. Wonder when they started following the P.M.? |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dracus:
This latest one did have some things that I don't quite agree with. Like the part where Archer tells the girl they are from another world. She was like "ok". should she not have been a little more surpised at the lest..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>She was a scientist. Compared to the rest of her race she was probably more open to the possibility of life on other planets. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> Also, when they kissed the first time, while that was very risky should there have not been something about making sure that he did not contract virus, I mean they are aliens after all. And the girl, didn't she seem just a little too easy???<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Aren't all highly intelligent women pushovers for good looking mysterious guys? Something about being different from the run of the mill jerks she is used to dealing with. Even before she knew he was an alien, she knew he had a lot of secrets. Smart chicks dig that sort of thing. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif Geoschmo |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Also, when they kissed the first time, while that was very risky should there have not been something about making sure that he did not contract virus, I mean they are aliens after all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The real life scientific reason for not worrying about viruses is that the viruses can't hurt humans. The virus would not have the genetic design to infect us. It would get in our system, look around and say, quite frankly, 'WTF?'. Unless humans have lived in the same area as the virus for a sufficient amount of time, the virus won't know how to infect us. The time needed would depend on how the virus is designed before human contact, and how close, biologically, humans are to the creatures the virus normally infects. And even if there were a virus that could get into their systems, they got the decon and sick bay on the ship, and those would've gotten them cured pretty quick (like they always do). ------------------ This is it. That moment they told us about in high school, where one day, algebra would save our lives. 'Evacuate? In our moment of triumph?' Grand Moff Tarkin, just before the Death Star blew. Brain fart, you win again! |
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I'm curious about their translator technology. While the show has been demonstrating that most of their tech is primitive compared to TOS and later, the fact that the captain could talk to a native in their own language real time, including lip synchronization, is just accepted. I could understand an alien race that is technologically advanced understanding the concept of a translator and accepting little details like the lips not matching the words, but a primitive person, thinking that they were speaking to one of their own race, would be confused.
Mind you, I liked the episode, but I just wish they had more problems dealing with language in that situation. At least the translator broke down at one point, but it still didn't explain how they could pull off the translator trick at all. |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alpha Kodiak:
I'm curious about their translator technology. While the show has been demonstrating that most of their tech is primitive compared to TOS and later, the fact that the captain could talk to a native in their own language real time, including lip synchronization, is just accepted. I could understand an alien race that is technologically advanced understanding the concept of a translator and accepting little details like the lips not matching the words, but a primitive person, thinking that they were speaking to one of their own race, would be confused. I just wish they had more problems dealing with language in that situation. At least the translator broke down at one point, but it still didn't explain how they could pull off the translator trick at all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yes this one confuses me also. I was expecting someone to say "hey why is your voice coming out of your pants." Still don't understand how they hear the translation either. In the NTG and DS9 they did talk about having one implanted their head but I still do not quite understand how others would understand them without having one themselves. I can see the it telling the holder what the other person is saying, but I don't see it working in reverse and speaking for the holder. |
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Maybe it's a nueral interface between your brain and the muscles controlling your vocal chords and mouth. You think a word in your native laguage, and it's gets translated before you actually speak it. The translator takes over and makes your mouth move in the correct fashion. The listener cannot tell a difference, because from their perspective their is no difference.
Of course this would not account for differences in biology. An alien species could have vocal chords that are capable of tomes that human one's are not. I guess then the implant could actually generate some tones and the facial movements will just be for show. Of course it could be that all the actors at Paramount speak english. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif Geoschmo |
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That is how they worked in DS9.
They should just use the BABEL fish method from Hitchhikers. Less confusing. ------------------ Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant! |
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That is how they worked in DS9.
They should just use the BABEL fish method from Hitchhikers. Less confusing. ------------------ Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant! |
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I wish Toronto had the street cleaning system that town had. Man was that the cleanest pre-industrial port town you ever did see? Humdinger it was.
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Wow! There haven't been any Posts about Enterprise here in the Last few weeks!
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Aargh - I was really getting into the new series and now it's rerun time for the next month or so...
I think they're doing a fine job with the show and it should be only a matter of time before Atrocities releases an enterprise ship set... |
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Regarding Archer kissing the woman scientist:
Why do nearly all humanoid aliens mouth-kiss? There's a good reason why kids think it's gross: because it is! Very unsanitary! Definitely an acquired taste. [He says, very tongue in cheek.] I'm not sure, but there are probably lots of Earth cultures that don't mouth-kiss, so why do most ST aliens? Just once I'd like to see a ST captain mouth-kiss an alien and have her pull away and yell, "Eeeew! Yuck! Are you crazy?!" And speaking of customs, I want to see some aliens with wierd greeting rituals, like grabbing one another's rear-ends or rubbing elbows or something. Earth teenagers constantly invent new greeting rituals. (Slap me five, high five, thumb handshake, punch handshake, etc.) Don't these writers have any imaginations??!! |
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has any one picked up the 20th anna...ver....sery edition of the first STAR TREK movie.
DVD of course. Truefully I think I am the only person who liked the first movie. |
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Your probably right about being the only person who liked the first movie. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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are you kidding? the first movie? it was GREAT!
"Ttttt-i-i-i-i-i-mmmmmme t-t-t-t-o-o-o-o iimmmmmmmmmm-paaact. . . . . twe-e-e-e-e-e-nty se-e-e-econds. . ." *bouncie*bouncie*bouncie*bouncie* |
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Waahhh!? The first time I watched it, I fell asleep after about an hour into it, which means it was very, very boring.
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really? i thought everyone liked the bouncing bald girl.
ok, other than that, it was not very good. |
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That bouncing bald girl was one of its many problems.
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i thought it was better than 3. which in turn was better than 5. danmed odd-number trek movies. of course, i though that all the next-gen movies basically sucked, even the borg one that had some fun action in it (tho it was better than the other two odd-numbered next-gen movies). tried and true, there has not been a single good odd-numbered trek movie. which means that we may be due for a good one soon..
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it was a new trek Last night. looking forward to talking about it tomorrow
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It was a good episode. I liked the spindily aliens, they were kind of different from the usual trek far. At the beginning, I thought they might have been Romulans or something because of the ship design.
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Well, crud! After waiting more than a month for an new episode, there's a basketball game on instead of Enterprise. I guess I'll have to wait till saturday to catch it.
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It's kinda funny, with all this low-tech, I keep feeling that they have paper-thin armor and their default-config 'phase cannons' are the galactic equivalent of throwing rocks at a tank. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Great episode, though. I really do like the fact that they come across all these aliens and that Starfleet ain't nowhere near the big fish in the pond yet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I wonder if they're going to be trading/upgrading their gear as time passes. It'd be cool to come back home with a totally modded Enterprise -- something Voyager failed to do. zen |
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What show are you talking about? I dont know of any startrek clone like this one - it probably hasn't hit europe yet
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Those aliens looked like streched out Mars Attacks aliens.
I enjoyed the side story but the main one was a little week. A-Team in space where the enterprise is not only the barn but the van as well. The character development is coming along nicely. |
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I love how they changed their pathetic beam weapon into a wave motion gun. Why don't my SEIV crews ever think to do that?
The only problem I had with the episode was: Why in the world did Archer and the chief engineer and the weapons officer not realize before now that installing the phase cannons just might possibly be a good idea? Helloooooo??? Guess Star Fleet Academy got better over time. I can't imagine the likes of Kirk, Scotty, Jordi, Miles, or Warf letting neat toys like that sit in a cargo bay. |
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I don't remember them having beam weapons (except for maybe the first episode, they keep trying those darn torpedos), so it looked like a new installation. Somewhere in here it sounds more like a debate as to whether the Enterprise crew has Energy Stream or Energy Pulse weapons (I go with Energy Stream).
Pretty good episode, I like how they struggled to find out what the favorite food of the security officer was. The main plot wasn't too bad..I liked how right after punching through the shields I was jumping up and down yelling "Fire the torpedos! Fire the torpedos NOW!" (Yes, I am a loser) Captain Kwok- I thought these were Romulans too, since the Enterprise initially couldn't scan them. And the look of them. |
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr> What show are you talking about? I dont know of any startrek clone like this one - it probably hasn't hit europe yet <hr></blockquote>
Enterprise? It's a new Star Trek show based in 2150's before the Federation was formed. It's pretty good. It debut in Sept. 2001 in North America, I guess you guys in Europe are unfortunate... |
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Yeah, about 18 months behind you
Everytime I speak to my mate in California about this wicked B5 episode I saw or whatever, he used to really bug me to bits by going on about how that was 'so Last year' and 'jeez man you are so behind the times' made me think of genocide sometimes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif |
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Someone on this forum sees "Enterprise" on Tuesday, rather than Wednesday like the rest of us, and he has to restrain himself from not posting spoilers. I assumed he was in the UK. That's not right?
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dmm, unless the guy has some cable, satellite or sky package I have never heard of then I really dont think he was in the UK
Certainly, Enterprise is not being shown on our 5 terrestrial channels as far as I am aware - the only science fiction shows we have at the moment are Farscape (ggggrrrrrr to that Aeryn) and STNG (1st series with Tasha Yar still in it - grrrrrr again) Nothing else as far as I can se |
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A-Channel in Edmonton Alberta shows Enterprise on Tuesdays at 7PM MST. Canadian Sat. company BEV carries the channel on charlie #5( I believe )
So I watch it then right after 24. Instead of Wed. nights since on Wed. I go out for stout and wings. In the US. it is UPN that carries it right ??? |
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Sorry, TS, I mixed up UK and Canada. An easy enough mistake for a Mid-Atlantic xenophobe to make. Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Texas, Alabama, New England -- you're all just a bunch of funny-English-speakers as far as we're concerned. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
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Good thing I am not from Newfoundland.
Dublin is the closest capital city. |
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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by dmm:
Sorry, TS, I mixed up UK and Canada. An easy enough mistake for a Mid-Atlantic xenophobe to make. Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Texas, Alabama, New England -- you're all just a bunch of funny-English-speakers as far as we're concerned. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <hr></blockquote> DMM, after that remark, you can forget the scenario editor if you get my drift - also less of the 'English speakers' - you should say 'American speakers' I think! Finally, dont block all us commonwealth types together, do I sound Canadian? I have never kissed a moose in my life |
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I had a sister who was once bitten by a moose.......
and dmm no offence taken. Nationism is nice and all but not very functional. Mid Atlantic ??? You from Virginia ?? Or is that too far north or south ?? |
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[quote]Originally posted by tesco samoa:
[QB]I had a sister who was once bitten by a moose....... Isn't that a pre-requisite to marriage in Canada? |
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Actually, I'm from Philly (that's Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA), so I probably should not be making fun of other peoples' accents! I don't talk like Rocky Balboa, mind you, but people from Maryland think I'm quaint. (They've got a lot of nerve! Can't even pronounce their own state's name properly -- they say "Mrrlnd.")
Warning: Boring geographical tidbit ahead. MidAtlantic is loosely defined as US coastal states south of New England and north of "The Deep South." So Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina are not MidAtlantic states, and North Carolina probably isn't one either, while Virginia may or may not be, depending on who you are talking to. The "definites" are New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and Maryland. |
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I always figured mid atlantic ment living on the coast.
Oh and a good star trek.... And I enjoyed it...................... |
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No reviews of it yet.....
also check out treknation. the guide is updated with a few new satire espisode's |
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I really liked the episode, but someone needs to tell the writers that foreshadowing is more effective if it's more subtle.
Archer: Someday they will have some sort of, {searches for right word} "Directive" to guide these situations.... Oh, my. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif What's next? "You know T'pal, Humans and Vulcans may not be the best friends now, but some day our planets will have to form some sort of , uh, "Federation" if we are going to be more united." Geoschmo |
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'Directive' sounds better than 'Process Improvement'
The thing I would like to know is when do all the Process Engineers get taken out and shot. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Think of the paper trail you would need 300 years for now in creating or doing anything. |
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another good star trek.
Thats two weeks in a row. |
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I for one like this new series, and it's appeal. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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then you will like tonights show
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For fans of Scotty.
Look what was invented... http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/0...183008,00.html Panzerkachel schützt vor Geschossen Dresdner Forscher haben durchsichtige und extrem harte Kacheln entwickelt. Von dem Material, aus dem sich etwa schussfeste Visiere fertigen lassen, ist auch das Pentagon fasziniert. DPA Durchsichtige Alu-Fliese Amerikas Waffentechniker zeigen Interesse an einer Panzerkachel aus Dresden. Im dortigen Fraunhofer-Institut für Keramische Technologien ist es gelungen, feinkörniges Aluminiumoxid bei 1200 Grad Celsius so im Ofen zu verbacken, dass ein extrem hartes, durchsichtiges Material entsteht. Eine 10 mal 10 Zentimeter große Platte (Stärke: 1,0 cm) wiegt nur etwa 400 Gramm, ist aber dreimal härter als gehärteter Stahl. Bei Schusstests im Auftrag des Bundeswehrbeschaffungsamtes in Koblenz seien "hervorragende Ergebnisse" erzielt worden, berichtet der Forscher Andreas Krell. Auch im US-Staat Idaho wurden die Fliesen untersucht: Das Pentagon ist von der Transparenz des Werkstoffs fasziniert, mit dem sich schussfeste Visiere oder große Fenster von Panzerspähwagen bauen lassen. For our english friends use http://babelfish.altavista.com/ and get Tank page frame protects against projectiles Dresdner researchers developed transparent and extremely hard page frames. By the material, from which visors can firingfixed be manufactured, also the pentagon is fascinated. DPA Transparent aluminum tile Of America weapon technician show interest in a tank page frame from Dresden. In the there institute for Fraunhofer for ceramic technologies succeeded in baking fine-grained alumina in such a way with 1200 degrees Celsius in the furnace that an extremely hard, transparent material develops. A 10 times 10 centimeters large disk (strength: only about 400 gram weigh, are however three times harder 1.0 cm as hardened steel. With firing tests under contract of the German Federal Armed Forces from the Bundeswehr in Koblenz " outstanding results " were obtained, report the researcher Andreas Krell. Also in the US state Idaho were examined the tiles: The pentagon is fascinated of the transparency of the material, with which firingfixed of visors or large windows of armored reconnaissance vehicles can be built. And for our Candian friends use this to view it. I link it back to this thread so you can get the real feel of it http://buzz.ca/fun/chretien.html |
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sheesh, and you call my postings irrelevant
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