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TheDemon June 2nd, 2009 01:08 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Festin (Post 694065)
I'm considering joining the noob team, if it is still possible. Could somebody please explain how are the nations assigned for this game, and which ones are still free?

You sign up for your team's forums, then you and your team collaborate to make a ranked list of nations. Once both teams have a list prepared, we alternate assigning the top picks on each team's list to each team, then each team decides amongst themselves who plays what (by whatever method, likely first dibs).

I think the host may allow swapping of nations on your team's list with free nations on a first come first serve basis, but he hasn't stated whether he will or will not yet.

If you want to play a particular nation, convince your team to rank it high on the list, and be prepared to be disappointed if it gets picked by the other team first.

Septimius Severus June 3rd, 2009 02:15 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Unoptimized, I welcome you back. As a returning alternate you and namad (so far) will have first uncontested dibs on nation choices before the teams draw up their lists.

Joelz and Festin, welcome aboard the noob team. TheDemon is correct.

The way we are handling it on the noob side is for each player to simply come up with your top 3 or 4 nation picks in order of preference, from which we will build our ranked team list. Once we know what we are getting any swaps that need to be made within the team or without can be done. So think of what nations you'd like in the meantime. You can post that info on the noob forum when your ready.

Septimius Severus June 3rd, 2009 03:32 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Just to clarify, I won't include water nations unless we have enough players where we will actually need them. And of course we won't need a mod nation or a nation from another era unless we have the full 24.

Festin June 3rd, 2009 03:33 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Sorry, it looks like I won't be able to participate after all - real life issues. Hope I'll find some team game next time when I have more free time.

Joelz June 3rd, 2009 04:43 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Glad to hear that im in :D. I have a few questions, and I hope you can provide me with answers.

1. How does this team game work? Do the team members just not attack each other?

2. Does anybody have any idea when the game is going to start?

3. I will be going to London at late July. I would like to know do the games usually last long enough for this to become a problem.
I will have to check how long I will be staying in London. I'll post it later.

rdonj June 3rd, 2009 07:47 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
1. Team members do not attack each other. You can share resources (gold/gems) and information freely. You should be coordinating military plans with the other members of your team so that there are no accidents with armies bumping and if things are going poorly you can ask for help.

2. The game will start when septimius has decided enough players have signed up. It's not quite clear when that will be at this point, the game has been filling up a bit slowly.

3. Most games last several months. Completing the last two noobs vs vets games took about 3 months combined, but they were both pretty short as far as most games go and neither got past turn 35. So if that happens again, the game will probably be between 1-2 months long, but if no clear winner is decided at that point it could take much longer.

Lingchih June 3rd, 2009 10:04 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
I did my best to recruit more players on IRC. No takers. Sorry.

Septimius Severus June 4th, 2009 01:52 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 694305)
I did my best to recruit more players on IRC. No takers. Sorry.

I'm sure your doing what you can do, keep pluggin. I know how relentless you can be, though I know theres a dearth of players now.

Joelz, most games allow delays or short postponements, and usually a sub/alternate can take over temporarily if players are out longer.

Sorry, to hear that Festin, though you might still consider joining as an alternate.

Joelz June 4th, 2009 07:20 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Good to hear, Septimius Severus.
I asked my folks about it, and it seems like we'll be in London only for 3 days, so count me in.
Now to just wait for more players, so the selecting of nations can begin :)

melnorjr June 4th, 2009 10:43 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Any noobs who haven't yet, please come join us in the noob forum here: http://teamnoob.forumotion.net/forum.htm
We should get together as early as we can so we can get our plans going.

Lingchih June 4th, 2009 10:00 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Hmm. Methinks Noobs vs Vets 3 will never happen. Unless maybe it is scaled down to a small game like the first one.

Septimius Severus June 5th, 2009 12:19 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 694517)
Hmm. Methinks Noobs vs Vets 3 will never happen. Unless maybe it is scaled down to a small game like the first one.

I know that is what you wanted in the first place, hey who knows you may get your wish and it may even be smaller, though I would remind you the first game was the same size as the second game.
I'm not worried really. I recommend you try what I suggested via PM first.

Baalz June 5th, 2009 08:33 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
I'll play, sounds like fun. I'll see if I can live up to my evil reputation. :)

Lavaere June 5th, 2009 09:38 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
From my experiece in many different games on the internet. There is no such thing as an evil Baal. Just sick, twisted, genocidal minded Baalz, and there are alot of Baalz out there.
And suicidal play, atleast in my case when I was possessed by the name many years ago.

Septimius Severus June 6th, 2009 01:05 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Just two more vets needed to reach our minimum vet goal. And a few more noobs of course.

Lingchih June 6th, 2009 01:52 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
With Baalz in, we might get a few others. He has followers.

atul June 6th, 2009 02:00 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
I'm in.

As long as someone else does the forging this time, that is. :p

Lingchih June 6th, 2009 02:02 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
wow, if we go with a small game, this almost looks like a game

Calahan June 6th, 2009 03:18 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baalz (Post 694575)
I'll play, sounds like fun....

Good to see the noob team filling up :p

Vellon June 6th, 2009 03:46 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Hi there, I'm almost a complete noob and I'd love to sign up!

Skinu June 6th, 2009 11:38 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Im in, its my first game HYIO.

Septimius Severus June 7th, 2009 12:09 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Welcome Vellon, Skinu. Be sure to join the noob forum (link on the main page of the thread) and post your nation preferences there. We will soon be ready for nation selection.

Septimius Severus June 7th, 2009 12:18 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calahan (Post 694704)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baalz (Post 694575)
I'll play, sounds like fun....

Good to see the noob team filling up :p

You must have meant the the vet team, but it is good to see both teams filling up. 1 more vet and 3 more noobs and we will have reached our minimum recruitment goal of 18.

Calahan June 7th, 2009 05:40 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Septimius Severus (Post 694820)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calahan (Post 694704)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baalz (Post 694575)
I'll play, sounds like fun....

Good to see the noob team filling up :p

You must have meant the the vet team....

hhhhmmmm pretty certain I meant the noob team. Everyone knows Baalz is a noob, and he always gets ganged up on quickly in games because of this ;)

Septimius Severus June 7th, 2009 03:44 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Stretch and Darloth where are ya?

TheDemon June 7th, 2009 05:12 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 693573)
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDemon (Post 693571)
I'm still considering playing, but for now put me down as a vet alt.

That means Demon will play. Sign him up.

I kind of did want to just be an alt, but I'll play if me playing means we meet the minnimum.

Septimius Severus June 8th, 2009 12:53 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
That may be helpful.

Welcome Baalz.

Welcome back TheDemon and Atul.

Where's our friend Ironhawk?

For those on the fence about joining or who have other issues with this sort of game, remember Noobs vs. Vets is not about winning or losing really (though it is great fun), it has been and always will be more of a community-wide collaborative educational experiment. Participation means being part of something greater than yourselves and as such requires the active engagement of everyone in the community, vet and noob alike, in order to be sucessful. Put it off no longer!:up:

Ironhawk June 8th, 2009 12:45 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
I'm watching this one from the sidelines. :martini:

The solid victory in Noobs2 satisfied my honor after the stinging defeat of Noobs1. But in turn it exhausted me what with my constant screaming for noob blood! Now, I'm taking a little break to let my batteries recharge :lightning::lightning::lightning:

Hadrian_II June 8th, 2009 04:46 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
I think i could join the noob team (or the vets if required) :D

Zeldor June 8th, 2009 04:49 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Is Unoptimized really a noob? I thought he has 5+ games played, huh.


Anyway, I can't join that one. Maybe next edition. That one is too soon and I don't have any spots for more games left [and it's that time of the year - anyone in college knows that].

namad June 8th, 2009 06:22 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
i doubt someone with 900posts is a noob :-p

Septimius Severus June 9th, 2009 12:05 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hadrian_II (Post 695094)
I think i could join the noob team (or the vets if required) :D

Welcome Hadrian, you seem closer to a vet then a green noob, so I'll assign you to the vet side pending their approval.

Septimius Severus June 9th, 2009 12:27 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 695095)
Is Unoptimized really a noob? I thought he has 5+ games played, huh.

Er, um, he was an alternate in the previous game, probably at the time he joined he met the criteria strictly (otherwise the vets would have spoken up), and as returning alternate he's sorta grandfathered in. Besides, we do a few more noobs at present.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironhawk (Post 695061)
I'm watching this one from the sidelines. :martini:

Ye gods! Whatever will the vet team do without you? I guess they'll just have to go ahead and lose! :D
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 695095)
Anyway, I can't join that one. Maybe next edition. That one is too soon and I don't have any spots for more games left [and it's that time of the year - anyone in college knows that].

How bout both you guys take alternate slots for now. We've got enough vets to start with Hadrian?

Septimius Severus June 9th, 2009 12:33 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Like the vets did last time, we on the noob team are currently speculating on what nations you vets might take. We think we've got at least a good idea of what a couple of you are likely to try to take. Wouldn't it be something if our predictions turn out to be more accurate than yours were? :shock:

Unoptimized June 9th, 2009 12:59 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Well, I am noobish I'd say. I do have a couple of games under my belts (no victories though). If others do not deem me nooby enough, I'd switch sides or not be on the side of noobs. Any other opinions? After all, the exact definition is somewhat hazy to me

namad June 9th, 2009 03:33 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
who is the vets forum admin? i've been asking on irc and no one knows?

atul June 9th, 2009 03:35 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Ling at least used to be.

namad June 9th, 2009 03:43 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
ling was the only one i asked and he said no!

vfb June 9th, 2009 04:10 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by namad (Post 695103)
i doubt someone with 900posts is a noob :-p

Yes, you need at least 2,854.

Lingchih June 9th, 2009 08:22 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
I am ostensibly the vet admin forum, at least I have the password. I'm not very good at it though. TheDemon is much better.

I did recently allow two new vets into the forum, Baalz and namad.

atul June 9th, 2009 08:44 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Should you be able to make a new invisible forum for the new game?

Or am I just left out of the gang?

TheDemon June 10th, 2009 12:00 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
I will take care of the group access.

e: done

Lingchih June 10th, 2009 12:55 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Is there much of a point to playing this third game? Most of the vets do not want to play. I would leave it tied at 1 to 1.

Septimius Severus June 10th, 2009 01:11 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Ling, you sound like someone who now does not want to play. :(

Looks to me like you've got a good 6 man team all ready to go. Just need 3 more noobs and we can proceed.

Some reasons we need this final game imo include:

1. It is important to see how the game plays out on a proper map suited to team play and with more balanced settings.

2. I want to give as many players as possible a chance to take part in the experience. This is especially true for noobs. We must try to reach as many noobs as possible.

3. Some noobs (like myself) need, want, a few more lessons. There is so much more that can be learned.

4. Ties leave to many questions unanswered. Will the Noobs regain their freedom? What of Mysterio's legacy? Who will prevail 2 out of 3 times?

Septimius Severus June 10th, 2009 01:43 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Most importantly though. I am having a blast! And I don't want the fun to end just yet. :D

Septimius Severus June 11th, 2009 04:52 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
A few alternates would be nice, though we can always recruit for them.

Pelthin June 11th, 2009 08:30 AM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
I am a noob and am willing to play, or be an alt if you need that.

Thanks.

TwoBits June 11th, 2009 01:45 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Are you still looking for Noob-meat here? I just dipped my toe into the water with MistsofTime, but that's looking to be like a big wild melee, where I'm definitely on my own (certain to be fun though!).

But I've got time for another game, and wouldn't mind one where I can learn (or at least get schooled in) a few nasty tricks by some true vets ;) This whole team format would definitely be new though, so I'd need some help to walk me through it (coordination and what-not).

Caveat: I'm not sure if I'm a good fit for this though. I've had the game for a good while now, and have fooled around plenty with SP, and have played a handful of MP games with friends (about 5-6). I guess I consider myself a noob in the sense of I haven't played any "at large" games, except for the just-started, aforementioned, Mists. But I may not be as "noob" as you're looking for?

I guess I'm like the soldier who's had lots of training, but hasn't seen much actual combat :)

atul June 11th, 2009 01:47 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
Considering some of the guys who have been on noob side, you'll probably fit in. Not much rush to fill the last places anyway.

DrPraetorious June 11th, 2009 03:10 PM

Re: Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM, Now Recruiting.
 
I'll play, sure. Put me down as a noob alternate :)


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