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Hey, I'm back.

I'd rather not change the mod in mid-game.

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Autocast darkness is very powerful, and I admit I am noticing its power now vs. Sauromatia, especially against his cavalry.

I still don't think it is drastically better than a jaguar warrior rush or niefel giant rush, but Yomi is very very good in this version of the mod. I would be okay with a nerf midgame, if that is the majority decisions. Extra weight should be given to Bwaha's opinion in this case as he is facing the brunt of yomi's strength.

One suggestion would be to give yomi a national darkness spell available at lower level and less gems. That way it would still require some research and effort, while not being too far off to be useable in repelling rush nations.

If we don't want to change mods, I would be okay with agreeing not to recruit anymore of my darkness auto-casting commanders as well.

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Just to continue my thoughts on it (and I would still like to hear others thoughts...

It has always been my intention to make "light lances" which, as you may imagine, allow the bearer to cast solar brilliance.

But moreover - there are a lot of nations that have partial or full darkvision- the agarthas, atlantis, and many of these nations are among the weaker nations.

So, besides boosting yomi - this made a lot of other nations more competitive.


Bwaha: You are the second best skeleton spammer in the game. Undead are immune to darkness. Instead of building cav etc - set up skelly spammers.

It may be too late because of Yomi's size. So far, I am not inclined to nerf in this game; I am thinking of decreasing the summons by the wolf brothers by 2 or so, and inreasing the cost of the incunabulai by 100.

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Also adviso: I'm traveling to Atlanta on Wednesday.. will be back monday.

I'm looking for a sub....

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Sorry to be grumpy about darkness. IMO its a broken spell.

I think you may have the right line of thought with a light trinket CP. But I remember that wasn't possible with the way the game works.

I've always hated the spell 'Darkness', Its just too powerfull without a counter. (Yes I know about the spell that blinds everyone.)

Also I didn't think that you had already hit them with the nerf bat. (My Bad)...

AlpineJoe you are a gentleman, Don't modify your game, carry through and finish it. You have the position, use it.

I don't mind getting crushed quickly, It's getting crushed slowly that I don't like.

So go for broke. Enjoy your position... :up:

:D

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Er wednesday.. NEXT week.

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Did the game skip to turn 12 all of a sudden? I didn't get that turn in the mail. Would you hold the game for me if it is on turn 12?

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Well, it seems you did stale the last turn Algae
if you need extra time on this turn, I'll try to keep a look out for it.

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I just sent my .2h file in, but the reply says that it's waiting on my nation (Agartha) and that everyone else has sent theirs in.

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Well llama server takes some time to update.
However - if you are a turn behind, you'll have to download the latest turn, and then generate a turn. It won't accept a stale turn.

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Okay, this game is skipping turns on me. I've checked all my inboxes and no signs of turns 12 or 14. I sent in turn 13 but nothing happened, not even a reminder to send it in (which I did, twice). What's going on?

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There has been discussion about problems with the llama server doing that.

However, I personally dont' really think it is the lama server. Email is just a best effort - not guaranteed.

Algae, I try to keep an eye on turn deadlines by visiting www.llamaserver.net - and making sure I get turns in.

Absolutely can not rely on in box.

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I'll remember that.

So would you be able to send me a copy of turn 14?

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Someone asked for a copy of my turn - I guess that was you looking for your turn.

I don't have any ability you don't have on that Age - But I'll hit the button for ya... Althought it looks like you just got turn 15 in .. so it looks as if its resolved.

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Thanks. I got turns 14 and 15 okay though. :)

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Be advised that the nation of Mictlan and its leader are filthy backstabbers. Immediately after signing a 3-turn NAP, they attacked several of Yomi's territories. Make no treaties with them, as they are unworthy scum who will show a peace agreement zero respect.

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Ha! Bats, Darling! The night terror, god of Mictlan fears neither the demons of Yomi nor their lying words (seriously, Joe, that NAP was 'signed' on the 18th... something like 8-10 turns ago).

The Rain Warriors of Mictlan shall not tolerate this insult to their honor! This means War!!!

...and Bats, Darling! will be back... soon... and that &!@# ghost general hero of yours will pay... in blood! ...wait, skeletons don't have blood, do they. Damn.

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A NAP-3 doesn't mean 3 turns of peace vanishag, it means you have to declare it void three turns before you attack. This is pretty widely understood in the dominions community, although i'm sorry you weren't aware of the meaning of the term. Withdraw your forces and pay reparations for my fallen, and we can still have peace.

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Well I welcome all the help I can get.

Seriously guys Yomi is running away with the game and I'm not getting any help. So send cash, lawyers, and weapons...

A few wands wouldn't hurt at all... :D

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Well Yomi SCs already... Immortal no less...

:ahh:

Mictlan that was unfortunate.

Let's not do that again. :doh:

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Wow, that was a monumental n00b screw-up on my part. All I can say in my defense is that, in Water War, I had a periodically-renewed "no attacks for X months NAP" that another player proposed, so I took that for the norm.

As reparations, I offer the two provinces Yomi has taken in the past two turns. It's not as if I've inflicted much damage on you: I though my 1/2 darkvision Rain Warrior cap-only sacreds would be effective against Oni, but your Ao-Oni mopped them up. And, as you know, when my Pretender attemped to assasinate your Ghost General, my Pretender died.

If you decide to press your advantage, that's OK: by the way I understood the treaty, you have every right. If you want peace, I feel I have to offer it, as it seems the mistake was mine (sorry Bwaha...)

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I tip my cap. I am out. I only have about 4 prov, and no troops or money.

I lost my Pretender last turn as well as all other forces.

I set myself to AI, I hope this is alright with you all. I am traveling next week, so this makes it easier than worrying about time zones jsut to move one guy a space or two.

:(

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Bleh, I don't care for Yomi's commanders, but I will soldier on.

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My computer has died , so I won't be playing anymore

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Sorry to hear that. I hope you are able to get it fixed or get a new one soon.

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Game paused to find a sub.

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I decided to get a new computer. So Can you delay the game for a couple of days?

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I've had separate requests for delays from Bwaha, Ghoul, and myself.

My internet connection will be spotty over the next few days, so my ability to respond to forum messages will be low.

So I'm postponing the game - unless people have significant objections.

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Thanks, Things are busy for me right now. :D

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That's OK with me.

Moreover, it will give the demons of Yomi a chance to consider the folly of their ways, lest they all meet the fate of those who dared to (literally) darken the door of Mictlan's capital.

(nothing clears up an Oni infestation like well-spammed Banishings)

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I was wondering how long it would take someone to start spamming that spell...cursed holy 3! Ah well, armies of Ao-oni were sooo year 2 anyways ;0

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LOL.. I was wondering myself alpine. Didn't want to say toooo much as all my casters are... H3 =).

Just remember the smite demon / cleansing waters when the SC's show up =)

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also, Hell Power increases ALL magics, including Holy, by 2, which is very nice when stacked on a H3 banish

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Yeah hellpower banish has caused me some problems. You leave me no choice now but to initiate total war.

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Hmm... what to do about that SC of yours? I suppose I should start fielding SCs of my own. I'll accept equipment donations of any sort from anyone who doesn't want Yomi to run away with the game.

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hey guys...
Before I left, I delayed the game 144 hours - as I said I was going to do.

I got the confirmation screen the game has been delayed.. and I left. I am just getting back now.

The game has staled 5 times, for a cause not my own making.

Which probably ruins the game as far as I am concerned. I'd like to hear what other people hear about resetting the game to turn 22.

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when you set the deadline for Tuesday, I was the only one that hadn't sent in a turn. When I sent the turn in, it switched back to 24 hours.

But nobody attacked you the whole time you were gone. So you are still in good shape.

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If you want to reset the game to 22, thats fine with me

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This blindsided me (I should have been checking the forum), and has major consequences for me. I'm ok with it, but some weird stuff has happened:

(1) we're on turn 23 now, not 22 - is this where we should be, or will there be another rollback?

(2) the turn is due later today? I don't know about anyone else, but I need at least another day to reassess the situation and communicate with other players (I PM'ed Chris about this a few minutes ago).

Under the circumstances, I'm not going to try and send a provisional turn in - again, I'm OK with the rollback, I just need more time to adjust.

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I wanted to say thank you to Strabo for playing - I hope he enjoyed the game.

I also wanted to make everyone aware that he was the artist behind the icons - so thanks are due there as well.

There will be a Balance Game 3 - with a few adjustments to yomi (not too many) and a whole new set of adjustments for machaka.
So, keep an eye out for it... current players will have preference.

Again, best wishes Strabo

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Thanks, Chris :)
Thanks all for a good game :)

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Thanks, Strabo! and, now that I'm being double-teamed by Yomi and Niefelheim, I figure I'm next... "give my love to Rose, please won't you mister?"

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More of a three-way then a double team, as Niefelheim is attacking me as well. How rude of him to interrupt a private fight.

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I'm looking for Blood and Death gems. I will repay them with Skull Mentors. PM me if interested... :D

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This is a done deal.

Thanks to the person who purchased them.

May they serve you well... :D

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Hey guys:

We need to coordinate an answer to this well of misery. Not only is he earning 21 death a turn, all his lands are earning 10% more tax.

The game may be over except for the shooting match. But we have to try. I am willing to contribute to the effort. Anyone else that is - please im me.

Chris

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I am currently without power. I am probably going to have to delay hosting, as the library computer does not allow dominions.

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Can you end balancegame? I don't see the point of keeping that one going?.

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I can't end it.

Llamaserver has a bug such that when you restart a game, it wipes the password.

Soooooooo I have no access to the llamaserver - neither, ironically, does llama.

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Great. Entire army refused to move..

Result: 10 dead mages.