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lch June 8th, 2010 12:33 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Thanks for the feedback. I already had to employ a really weird hack to make the Dom3Wiki work with the database extension again, it seems that there's some PHP bug that is causing this. I'll revert to an earlier version.

Viajero June 16th, 2010 03:40 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
I ve browsed through the thread and do a search with the key word "protection" here, but could not find anything just yet... reason is this:

When I browse units descriptions in the wiki for the most part I find the protetcion value to always be much less than the actual one we see in game.

I'd presume the protetcion shown in the wiki is the basic one, without taking into account the armor of the unit?

lch June 17th, 2010 11:54 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Yes, the values being displayed in the Wiki pages are base values without factoring in the modifiers through armors and weapons.

Viajero June 17th, 2010 02:40 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Cool, thanks. I also guess that there are technical difficulties in the database or the wiki that prevent showing the in game actual displayed protection instead then?

Edi June 18th, 2010 05:06 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
The protection formula in the latest DB should work correctly, or at least give a ballpark figure for what the right number is.

lch July 15th, 2010 06:50 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viajero (Post 749183)
Cool, thanks. I also guess that there are technical difficulties in the database or the wiki that prevent showing the in game actual displayed protection instead then?
The technical issues are that the armor is being stored as armor values for its parts in the data and I was too lazy to find out the correct formula to calculate the protection value that the game displays, especially how it behaves if a unit is wearing more than one piece of armor at the same time. I do agree that the displayed information in the statboxes in the Wiki is very lacking regarding this and the corresponding encumbrance values.

lch July 15th, 2010 06:56 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
The Dom3Wiki may be unavailable for a brief or even longer period of time at the end of the month as I will no longer have the office that I had at college. I'll try to find alternate hosting options and in the worst case, will try to have it running at home.

Mysterio July 31st, 2010 01:55 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lch (Post 751946)
The Dom3Wiki may be unavailable for a brief or even longer period of time at the end of the month as I will no longer have the office that I had at college. I'll try to find alternate hosting options and in the worst case, will try to have it running at home.
I miss it already. :(

lch August 3rd, 2010 12:14 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Don't worry, it'll be back. I'm aiming to have it back online this week.

BvG August 8th, 2010 01:27 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
I have a free, yet not completely craptastic hosting to offer, if you're interested?

Inindo August 9th, 2010 11:40 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
*sniff* please come back, pretty please with a cherry on top

Finalgenesis August 12th, 2010 03:17 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Would porting it to one of those free wiki site work? (Assuming I'm willing to get hit by advertising and so stuff, admittedly a huge undertaking formatting the stuff over) What good free wiki sites are there? I'm only aware of Wikia.

Is it possible to provide your web folder zipped as a download temporarily? I could gradually edit them to a free site in bits and pieces, though my formatting do leave a bit to be desired.

BvG August 12th, 2010 06:51 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
I can host as is. no need for advertisements of any sort. you get your own ftp login and cgi-bin (tho i'll be able to look inside the folders and the db of course).

Gandalf Parker August 12th, 2010 12:30 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BvG (Post 754284)
I can host as is. no need for advertisements of any sort. you get your own ftp login and cgi-bin (tho i'll be able to look inside the folders and the db of course).
He has had such offers in the past. He has a login on my shell server and even had root. He did some appreciated work there for awhile.
:target:

He might be considering the next evolution. A home server. I hope so. He seems to have covered all the different "jobs" of one individually. We can definitely use some more servers.

Maybe he will consider a synch'd site.

lch August 15th, 2010 07:14 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
The Wiki is back, in a way, sorry for the wait. I did try to find other hosting options at college or with friends from other colleges, but for various reasons those plans never bear fruit. So now I am indeed hosting it from home, an idea I originally was very opposed to, because while it is a broadband connection it won't be as fast as before and I don't want to hog the available bandwidth whenever I download something. I did have hosting offers, but one thing I care very much about now, after a dozen years of experience as a sysadmin and some unpleasant surprises, is dependability, which by now means that I want to be able to have physical access to the machine when I want to as well. It might be worthwhile to consider transferring the entire site to Wikia, at some point in the future maybe, but I fear that a lot of things then won't make it during the transfer process.

So, this is better than nothing, I guess. Please tell me your experiences of using the site, if this is okay for you or if it is unbearable.

lch August 15th, 2010 04:21 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
And bam, upgraded the Wiki to MW version 1.16 now as well. I've been waiting for this for months. Enjoy the new vector skin!

And report back if you get errors.

Jorus August 16th, 2010 12:02 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
I'd like to post my experience using the site, but still can't get in. I'm hitting all the links at the beginning of this post, but get nowhere. Is there another way?

lch August 16th, 2010 01:27 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jorus (Post 754561)
I'd like to post my experience using the site, but still can't get in. I'm hitting all the links at the beginning of this post, but get nowhere. Is there another way?
The woes of dynamic IP addresses... :( I'm trying to fix the dyndns script.

Kadelake August 16th, 2010 02:07 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
It works fine now. And not as slow as I feared it would :)

Jorus August 16th, 2010 02:30 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Yup, it's workig! Thanks, J

lch August 18th, 2010 02:45 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Argh, the script still updates the IP address with the internal LAN IP. :( Can't fix it right now, sorry!

Mysterio October 21st, 2010 12:09 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Is the wiki down again? Chrome keeps timing out.

lch August 7th, 2011 03:40 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
The Dom3 Wiki has been unreachable for some time in the past, it is offline right now as well. This is because it is hosted behind a DSL line with a failing router which is finally showing his age, sorry for that. I plan to replace the unit during the start of next week, then the connectivity should be much better. Thanks for your patience.

llamabeast August 7th, 2011 10:04 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Ah, great news - thanks lch!

Bullock August 7th, 2011 11:49 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Thanks for you wiki stuff.
As a noob i ve learned tons from it.

Cheers :)

brxbrx August 8th, 2011 01:49 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
I am so tempted to try out my LOIC...

Chazar August 14th, 2011 04:39 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
I have still frequent trouble accessing the Wiki.

I am new to Dom3 and find it so incredibly useful - I am actually delaying a turn because I am unable to access the Wiki. Has it been considered to create a mirror for the Wiki elsewhere?

Thanks a lot!

brxbrx August 14th, 2011 09:54 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Can I suggest putting it up on a wiki farm? They're free, the only downside would be advertising.
There would be no more access problems.

(also, the temptation for me to LOIC would decrease significantly)

Soyweiser August 15th, 2011 03:04 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Well, it is also pretty hard to get your own extension on the wiki farms. If you want mirror stuff, it is probably best to ask lch.

Chazar August 25th, 2011 05:28 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
The wiki is down again since the last few days, and I cannot find it in Google's cache either :( Does anyone know an alternative?

Joku August 25th, 2011 04:08 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lch (Post 781628)
The Dom3 Wiki has been unreachable for some time in the past, it is offline right now as well. This is because it is hosted behind a DSL line with a failing router which is finally showing his age, sorry for that. I plan to replace the unit during the start of next week, then the connectivity should be much better. Thanks for your patience.
Btw, I could host the wiki or a mirror on my NAS box which is behind a 100M/100M connection if you are interested.

lch October 7th, 2011 01:54 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Thanks a lot for the very generous offer to host the Wiki, I would definitely have been glad about this when I no longer was able to use my office as server storage. But even though hosting it from home might be sub-optimal and the server might be sluggish or unresponsive at times, I don't have the time that it would take to transfer the Wiki and prepare the software and the databases someplace else right now. Another thing which has become quite important to me and which I don't want to lose anymore is to have physical access to the server in case something happens.

I apologize again about the Dom3Wiki being unreachable over extended periods of time in the past. It turned out that the router that I had wasn't dying, in fact, but was configured to not hold and re-initiate the connection to the Internet in case it got lost, but to go to sleep in case there was no traffic for a while. Since my line was in use pretty much 24/7 before, this didn't become apparent before, but since I am now no longer using it during much of the day, the router would just shut down the Internet connection. I have since used a Host tracking software to keep track of my uptime, and I will share the findings that I got from it with you here:

Code:
Dom3 Wiki - August
    Total uptime:84.69% Downtime:2 day(s) 15 hour(s)
        Monthly uptime:84.69% Downtime:2 day(s) 15 hour(s)
            Day 2011-08-31 Uptime:99.97% Downtime:22 sec(s)
            Day 2011-08-30 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-08-29 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-08-28 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-08-27 Uptime:99.91% Downtime:57 sec(s)
            Day 2011-08-26 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-08-25 Uptime:20.43% Downtime:11 hour(s) 48 min(s)
            Day 2011-08-24 Uptime:0.00% Downtime:13 hour(s) 35 min(s)
            Day 2011-08-23 Uptime:9.83% Downtime:16 hour(s) 10 min(s)
            Day 2011-08-22 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-08-21 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-08-20 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-08-19 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-08-18 Uptime:99.94% Downtime:55 sec(s)
            Day 2011-08-17 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-08-16 Uptime:55.83% Downtime:6 hour(s) 16 min(s)
            Day 2011-08-15 Uptime:90.82% Downtime:2 hour(s) 12 min(s)
            Day 2011-08-14 Uptime:78.65% Downtime:4 hour(s) 19 min(s)
            Day 2011-08-13 Uptime:60.75% Downtime:8 hour(s) 42 min(s)
            Day 2011-08-12 Uptime:97.57% Downtime:35 min(s) 2 sec(s
Code:
Dom3 Wiki - September
    Total uptime:91.78% Downtime:3 day(s) 16 hour(s)
        Monthly uptime:96.28% Downtime:1 day(s) 21 min(s)
            Day 2011-09-30 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-29 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-28 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-27 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-26 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-25 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-24 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-23 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-22 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-21 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-20 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-19 Uptime:97.82% Downtime:30 min(s) 50 sec(s)
            Day 2011-09-18 Uptime:57.69% Downtime:10 hour(s) 9 min(s)
            Day 2011-09-17 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-16 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-15 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-14 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-13 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-12 Uptime:50.58% Downtime:8 hour(s) 59 min(s)
            Day 2011-09-11 Uptime:86.71% Downtime:3 hour(s) 11 min(s)
            Day 2011-09-10 Uptime:97.65% Downtime:32 min(s) 11 sec(s)
            Day 2011-09-09 Uptime:99.93% Downtime:60 sec(s)
            Day 2011-09-08 Uptime:99.94% Downtime:50 sec(s)
            Day 2011-09-07 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-06 Uptime:96.50% Downtime:50 min(s) 20 sec(s)
            Day 2011-09-05 Uptime:99.97% Downtime:29 sec(s)
            Day 2011-09-04 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-03 Uptime:99.83% Downtime:2 min(s) 10 sec(s)
            Day 2011-09-02 Uptime:100.00%
            Day 2011-09-01 Uptime:99.81% Downtime:2 min(s) 47 sec(s
The downtime in August is mainly because of the misconfigration of the router that I wrote about before. The longer downtime in September is due to a power failure that we had. Apart from those two incidents, I think the uptime is not too bad and I hope that you can live with it, too.

Last but not least I want to give my sincere thanks to those folks that still update the Dom3Wiki these days, new users and old Wiki veterans alike. Although I'm mostly absent from the forums and from the games and I can't spend much time on improving the Wiki much further, I look over what's going on with the Wiki edits from time to time and enjoy seeing that you continue to use it that much. Although there definitely is a lot of room for improvements, I hope that the Wiki is of some help to you.

kernel October 9th, 2011 05:39 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
just caught up with this - great site Ich :)

Chazar October 10th, 2011 03:14 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
I consider the wiki to be essential, especially since I am jumping into multiplayer with little time to experiment around in singleplayer. So thanks a lot for the wiki!

Dom3 has lots of things to explore, but in order to be competitive in multiplayer, it is good to look ahead how things really work underneath. The wiki is excellent for that!

lch April 14th, 2012 03:20 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
The Dominions 3 Wiki is undergoing updates and has to be offline for some time. After upgrading, a very old bug in the MediaWiki software persistently denies all attempts to fix it. I did manage to circumvent it the past two years by keeping upgrades to the PHP version back and not updating it anymore, which is no ideal solution anyway. Now that those packages have been officially removed, I'll try to upgrade everything to the newest version and to have the Wiki running with that. Sorry for the downtime.

brxbrx April 14th, 2012 09:43 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lch (Post 801615)
The Dominions 3 Wiki is undergoing updates and has to be offline for some time. After upgrading, a very old bug in the MediaWiki software persistently denies all attempts to fix it. I did manage to circumvent it the past two years by keeping upgrades to the PHP version back and not updating it anymore, which is no ideal solution anyway. Now that those packages have been officially removed, I'll try to upgrade everything to the newest version and to have the Wiki running with that. Sorry for the downtime.
I'd thank your post too because it was very useful and very gracious of you to inform us of this, but I don't want to be a part of the herd.

momfreeek April 14th, 2012 10:48 AM
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Yah, thx lch for the wiki. I can't imagine playing dom3 without it.. I'd be totally lost ^^.

The archives on waybackmachine still seem fairly usable as a reference:

http://web.archive.org/web/http://do...wiki/Main_Page

Calahan April 14th, 2012 02:46 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
I'll add to the eulogising of Lch while I here. It took me a while to get used to using the Wiki, mainly due to getting used to the fact a useful and accurate Wiki existed, but I find it a great reference source now, and often saves me having to sift through my notes or DB when looking for fine details.

So thanks Lch for all the work you did putting it together in the first place, and thanks for maintaining it like you do for all the community (that'd you've been too rare a guest of in recent times :()

Rick L April 19th, 2012 03:35 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
I have been a reader and contributor to the Wiki for some time, but for the last few days I get a page not found error when I try to go there. Anyone know what's up?

legowarrior April 19th, 2012 04:01 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lch (Post 801615)
The Dominions 3 Wiki is undergoing updates and has to be offline for some time. After upgrading, a very old bug in the MediaWiki software persistently denies all attempts to fix it. I did manage to circumvent it the past two years by keeping upgrades to the PHP version back and not updating it anymore, which is no ideal solution anyway. Now that those packages have been officially removed, I'll try to upgrade everything to the newest version and to have the Wiki running with that. Sorry for the downtime.
I think this answers your question. It is 5 posts above what you wrote.

Rick L April 20th, 2012 12:25 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
I have been a happy user and contributor to the Wiki for a while, but it seems to be down now. I haven't been able to sign on recently. Anyone know what's happening with it?

Soyweiser April 20th, 2012 02:06 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick L (Post 802206)
I have been a happy user and contributor to the Wiki for a while, but it seems to be down now. I haven't been able to sign on recently. Anyone know what's happening with it?
Wow you really have trouble reading don't you? It is still broken like Lch said. You basically asked the same question last week and got the same reply.

Apparently it is a bit harder to fix than originally thought of. Relax, and wait. It will probably be back, ad if it is down for good, well just ask Lch for the backups and try something else.

Also, your message is even incorrect. Not being able to sign on implies that you can reach the page. Which isn't true, as the wiki has been unreachable.

legowarrior April 20th, 2012 03:31 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
I thought about reposting my answer, but I thought that maybe I didn't understand the question the first time. Still, patience young grasshoper.

John_Madlock April 21st, 2012 01:00 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Damn, I hope it will be back.

Rick L April 21st, 2012 02:58 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Sorry for the duplication. I didn't see my original post and decided I had done something wrong when I submitted it.

brxbrx April 22nd, 2012 12:04 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
You guys thought about enabling anonymous editing?

Soyweiser April 22nd, 2012 08:23 AM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
That only invites more spam.

lch June 13th, 2012 05:11 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Hello all,

the Wiki is up and running again. We had this purple bog beast infestation in our home, and although our experts were already on the case, we had to devote all our free time to those experts, too, you see...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6633593/bogbeasts.jpg

Okay, jokes aside, I am very sorry for the long downtime. When the captcha extension made trouble I turned the web server off, thinking that I could get to fix that problem soon - which regrettably was not the case. Yesterday I did some upgrades to the underlying operating system and since I started the Web server again, with the Wiki still in its defunct read-only state, hoping that I could run some reparations before announcing "The Wiki is back" to the outside world, I already received an email from llama and even some donations from community members. Those donations will go into the "new HDD for the Wiki" fund, thanks a lot.

(tech talk mode on)
Now that I had a closer look at the situation, the problem was that the Recaptcha extension was being incorporated into the official MediaWiki code, and those updated files have been pulled through SVN updates like they should. The configuration files still linked against the files from the old recaptcha library, though, and those started to fail working correctly at some point. Pretty resistant to any hotfixes. Now that I had enough distance to this, I finally noticed the misconfiguration.
(tech talk mode off)

I will work some more on the underlying Wiki software when I find time for that, but right now you're invited to start using the Wiki in its current form, and please report if you receive any other errors.

Hrum June 13th, 2012 05:43 PM
Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
 
Congrats lch!

And thanks for all your work on the wiki.

If you didn't already know how much everyone gets out of the wiki, you can tell how much we love it on the rare occasions when it's unavailable. As anyone who has any background in IT stuff knows, this is normal for all of us users - we express our love for the service you provide by kvetching when it is temporarily unavailable. The enthusiasm of the kvetching is a reasonable gauge for the intensity of our love. :)

JonBrave June 13th, 2012 05:59 PM
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@Ich,

Many thanks for your work, and the return of the site. Now that I've seen the photo, I had not realised that you were so young when I asked in a post about how long the site was down, may I say your IT skills are remarkable for someone of your age. :)


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