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I'm glad to hear that! BTW, I didn't intend my comments to MartinTrouman and Sephorin to be in any way critical of you and mockingbird.

Groundworm is quite right that it isn't always easy to handle things gracefully. The further the game goes, and the more time people have put into it, the more difficult it can become when everything falls apart. But the situation with MartinTrouman and Sephorin was particularly worrisome since it had the potential to go beyond diplomatic disagreements to charges of unfair play.


I agree completely! :)

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I have an issue with running a pbem game on a Mac (OSX). I've created the folder in my HOMEDIR/users/dominions3/saves. Everything (Game, latest patch, mods) are installed and working, and I have no problem creating and playing a single player game. Yet when I place the .trn file in the specific save directory i get a crash to desktop immediately after attempting to load the save. Any ideas? It is probably something extremely simple.

Note: I had been playing dominions3 off my PC at home with no problems, but I am at my parents house for a few days and thus the Mac. Ye gods, why only one button on the mouse!?

Edit: Fixed it, was a map directory issue. False alarm folks!

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Okay, sounds good. Thanks, Valerius.

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By the way, does anyone wish to trade me earth or death gems for my pile of water gems, at the moment they are being used as paperweights...

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Hi,

I just wanted to let everyone know that I will be on international travel Oct 2-11. I expect to have excellent internet access and plan to continue to submit my turns as usual. However, there is always the possibility of complications, so I wanted to let you all know in advance just in case.

Best regards,
Mockingbird

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Ok, I'll try to check the server close to hosting and postpone if I don't see your that your turn is in.

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I have a bit of a concern about the unusual lag on Bandar Log posting a turn, as compared to previous alacrity.

It would be my preference to postpone the game rather than have a player stale if possible.

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cwkjc hasn't logged in for a couple of days. I'll postpone hosting by 12 hours and message him through the llamaserver.

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No word yet from cwkjc. I'm putting another 24 hours on the clock. Hopefully we'll hear from him by the end of the weekend.

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Let's hope nothing happened to him...

He seemed quite active, although losing his Pretender may have caused him to lose interest in the game altogether?

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Is his capital still under siege? Last time my scouts wandered by it was. Also, did he ever send in a turn the last few rounds, or did the game time out and skip him?

Edit: He was Bandar Log, with the awake White Bull, if I recall correctly. Well cwkjc, if you're reading this I'll share a tip that I found from playing single player as Bandar Log with an awake Nature bless White Bull. Elephants work just as well for initial independent (and often vs player) expansion, and do not tie design points in an awake pretender. Also, the White Bull badly needs to research Alteration to cast Personal Regeneration to be survivable, but a single arrow will enrage him, interrupting his casting.

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So sorry, i've played my turn, i didn't find time to connect this week end....

The white bull was a try, i've played bandar log in my first mp and had a lot of problem with my rainbow to expand, i'm not sure that's a good option but it was funny, and i wanted a good expansion at the beginning, it's ok i think for the first turns with good scales it's very comfortable, maybe my mistake was to build a fort in a strange location the chokepoint with ctis should have been better.

Invasion of Ctis at the beggining of the game with my strong dominion could have been more aggressive.

I'm always searching a good way to play this nation

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I will be out of town for a few days. I should have internet access, so my turns should proceed normally, if a bit slowly.

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Rotarr-

Does discovering a sneaking scout cancel movement due to the resulting battle? If so, then I apologize - the scout was sneaking, not attempting to stall you, and I'll resubmit the upcoming turn to move my scouts through a different path.

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I don't think it should, but I'm not 100% sure there. I didn't move all of my armies last turn so it could be that your scout was on one of those provinces. I'll have a look at the turn when I come home.

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The scout was discovered by a non-moving army, so no harm done :)

I think you can stall by ordering him to attack though, I suppose that would be considered an unethical stalling move.

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Yeah, I think it works out that about 50% of the time, an attacking scout (or any army) interrupts movement in the province it attacks, if it attacks out of a province owned by its own nation. Most likely, being discovered while scouting does not have this effect.

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Hi, Valerius. If possible, could I get a 12 hour extension on the current turn? Thanks!

Sephorin

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Sure; 12 hours have been added to the clock.

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Thanks. Sorry for the delay, everyone. My turn is now in.

Sephorin

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Valerius,

I don't really know how this works, but you may not be aware that Vanheim has been eliminated. Does that nation need to be taken off of the Llamaserver list so that we are not waiting for him to submit his turn before the server hosts?

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It's somewhat counter-intuitive but after a nation is eliminated the server will still wait for their turn one more time. After the next hosting they will no longer be on the list of nations, regardless of whether they sent in a final turn or not.

Martin, if you have a chance to send in your turn that will likely speed up hosting. Also, well played fighting all the way to the end!

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Thanks, Valerius. And let me add my thanks to Martin for sticking it out. I know that's not the easiest thing to do.

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Thanks for the game... It's not realy a lot of work sending in the last turns.

I did enjoy the part up to the moment where I was overrun by Pangaea. I good learning experience.. and I might even join the next available noob game. Think I have to put more emphasis on research and set up i defendable chockepoints.

See you around,
Martin

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Has anyone heard anything from cwkjc?

If all he has left is a single fort under siege, he may have intended but forgotten to go AI.

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Since the major action is happening along my border with him I can safely say that Bandar Log is still putting up some stiff resistance.

Actually I'm quite amazed that no one has gone AI yet, it does make the game more enjoyable IMO.

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Yeah, you all have done really well.

As far as Bandar goes, he doesn't have any stales so he's continuing to fight (and rotarr's comments confirm that). OTOH, we are getting close to hosting time so Nightfall may also be right that Bandar is finished.

From what I can tell from the graphs Bandar still has some forces left that could be used to make a final stand. If we don't see his turn in the next few hours I'll send it to myself and either set them AI or put together a final defense of their last fort (if there's no objections to me doing so).

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Bandar has been putting up extremely effective resistance. I have high praise for him for lasting so long against me. That being said, his resistance is all but at an end. If Valerius wants to take over for him or set him AI, I have no objection. I think he has only one (two at most) province(s) left.

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Ok, I just sent in Bandar's turn. He's just got the one province/fort so things are almost done for him. But I think he can still make a last stand so I didn't set him AI yet.

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Sorry i had hard time at work, i couldn't connect and play my turn, but my last army was standing waiting for the ultimate fight...

Tell me if i can play or if i'm turned AI

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I regret to inform you all that I unexpectedly will not have internet access for most of this weekend (Oct 23-24, PST). I would like to request a turn extension, please.

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You're welcome to play. If you'd like to do so just PM me your e-mail address and I'll change it back. But after some losses this turn and, even more painful, some troops abandoning due to lack of gold I'd actually say going AI is quite reasonable at this point. There's really not much to do.

I see you have your current turn in and hosting isn't due until Sunday. But I'll keep an eye on things to make sure you don't stale over the weekend.

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Sorry I held up the game - I thought I'd sent in Bandar's turn. In any case, there's nothing left so I'm setting them AI this turn.

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As per the first post, I've made the final change to hosting interval - to 72 hours (though you're moving quick and I doubt you'll need the extra time for now).

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Looks like I shall be the next out (Eriu).

Never fear, I shall hurl Shamblers from the sea until somebody comes to root me out (I got a random event causing immigration to a sea province which happened to have a Shambler population in it). I suppose my 5 income will not hold me long, but we shall see! Heck, my Shambler is the arena champion even!

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Ah so that's how you got those guys! I was wondering about that. Too bad they're not particularly strong :p

I enjoyed warring against you; you put up a great fight with those hard to hit thugs until my eagle warriors stepped up in force. I was afraid you'd be using those to raid my home provinces which could have proven quite effective!

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I would definitely have used them for some raiding, but not enough were geared. I went the wrong blessing I think - should have thrown some Earth in there instead of Water. The lack of reinvigoration meant that I needed to add a Girdle of Might or Amulet of Reinvigoration to the Frost Brand / Vine Shield combination for them to be effective.

To be honest the Thug strategy was an afterthought, when I found that my armies were wholly ineffective against your blessing. Were I to play this game a second time, I would have planned on paratroop thugs from turn one. Armies and provincial defense work fine against a computer opponent but are not enough against a human.

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I don't know about that, Abysian PD is the only reason I'm still going in this game, I've found it to be _very_ _very_ cost effective when backed up by a couple of mages.

My only complaint with it is that the damn PD salamanders don't ever seem to cast pheonix power first turn, which would _greatly_ increase the spell selection they have. :doh:

But yeah I agree that a lot of other nation's PD don't seem to be worth much.

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About 3 hours left to go before the turn cycles, and Pangaea hasn't submitted his turn. He's in danger of a stale. Should we extend the turn?

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Sure, I've extended hosting by 12 hours. Good catch!

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Thanks, Valerius. It looks like he made if after all. :)

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C'tis needs some more time for this turn so I've postponed hosting for 24 hours.

This has been a quiet thread recently but from what I can see you've got a close game here, with none of the five remaining nations out of the running.

Also, when I was postponing hosting I noticed the only stale was Mictlan's last turn (but he's back this turn). If anyone needs more time, especially over holidays, please don't hesitate to ask.

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Since I've been at war with Pythium the entire game basically and we are both still hammering away at each other, which from what I understand is pretty rare, I've actually been considering writing up the game from my side turn by turn as an AAR with screenshots...

Does anyone know of a good place to do so...

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Hey, Nightfall, that would be snazzy! I would even pay $1 to read such an AAR. ($2 if there are really good pictures.)

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Nightfall, I'd be interested in an AAR as well! 1 vs. 1 wars going all game are somewhat unusual but even more so are situations where both parties are still in contention this late in the game. Usually these kind of wars (though they can be quite fun) end up draining the strength of the combatants while other nations leap ahead.

While this is technically the MP & AAR subforum, I'm sure you've noticed not many AARs actually get posted. I'm not sure how well the forum software handles formatting, but in any case the character limit per post and the fact that you can only edit the first post in a thread would probably make it frustrating for posting a detailed AAR. Not sure what a good place would be, though. Maybe the Dom3mods or Something Awful forums (though I understand the latter requires a membership fee)?

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Yeah, for the SA forums you need to pay $10 for a lifetime membership (excluding archives). It seems there's a large Dom3 following with a bunch of excellent AAR's already. I'm sure you'll get a lot of attention and some good feedback over there.

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Hey all, I'm away between the 23rd and 1st, and may not be able to send in turns, does anyone mind if we delay for a while over the holidays?

By the way, I've started writing up my turns as an AAR in word format, I think I'll upload them to a host and link to them from a post in this forum when I'm ready.

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It's certainly customary to delay hosting as needed at this time of year. The next hosting is scheduled for 6:05 GMT Wed. Nightfall, do you think you'll be able to send in one more turn before you leave?

Looking forward to it! :)

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Yeah, that should be okay.

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Nightfall's turn is in but since he won't be back until the 1st there's no need to rush this turn (which is currently set to host in the middle of this holiday weekend). So I've postponed hosting 3 days. The hosting after this will be postponed until the 2nd.