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You are correct they didnt use shields.(At least not durring samurai period) Apparently Samurai worriors started as horse arches. And their sword is also made to be used with two hands for the greatest effect so a shild would have been a hindrance.

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Why do you need shields, when you have the most awesome sword in the world? The whole philosophy of swordsmanship in japanese culture is based on relentless attacks and sometimes counter-attacks, no defense.

For example, if two samurai of equal level and equal height would duel, it was common for both of them to die, because of the whole cut or be cut ideology.

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And later on most samurai used guns, but dominons doesn't have any of those.

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Hmm, I think there is more myth than reality to what is known of the Samurai and Katana. They are archers, I would think that a shield would be a great idea for countering the archers. But, maybe their armor was made specially to use against arrows?

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apologies... I will be in this evening.

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Well, wasn't in feudal Japan, can't tell the measures of myth and reality, but I do kendo for some time, so as far as I have heard from some good sources (people who trained in Tokyo police dojo and trained with the imperial guard), that the whole all attack/no defense philosophy does stand. And from a practical standpoint: if you don't attack and try to defend - you're a goner.

And the archer bit, not familiar with that part, the armor idea seems plausible, will try to check it out if an opportunity occurs.

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Dominions 3: The only game I've known where the players discuss the historical accuracy during their downtime.

Re: SeaOfInnocence - All ages newb game [Design Pretenders]
 

Okay guys, I'm pretty sure that ancient Egypt wasn't inhabited by lizard men. This is a serious historical inaccuracy that needs addressing.

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I don't think christianity turned all the citizens of rome into the undead, either...

...yet

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I've seen it stated repeatedly in history books that samurai were primarily horse archers. As far as shields go, a single samurai carried a variety of weapons as their standard arsenal: a bow, a katana, a shorter secondary blade, and a slashing polearm (I have forgotten the Japanese names for both of these), all used for different combat situations. As all but one of these are two-handed weapons, a shield would just be a hindrance.

I have heard from a veteran SCA-er (they are absolutely obsessive about this kind of thing) that medieval katanas were made from a softer iron than the steel we imagine today. Yes, it was capable of being folded into insanely sharp weapons by some of the finest smiths in the world, but it could not actually *parry* another katana of the same make without damaging itself. Weather this helped lead to the offensive samurai style, or the style led to the development of the weapon, I cannot say.

Samurai used guns? The way I understood it, guns were outright banned, even for the nobility, for a very long time, and when they were finally adopted, it was simultaneous to the adoption of the entire western warfare strategy of the late 19th century and the samurai class was left in the dust.

Ancient Egypt was DEFINITELY inhabited by lizardmen. Don't you pay attention to bio-anthropology?

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Also I vote 48 hour turn-cycles.

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yea 48 hrs turn is good as long as you don't get people stalling every turn:)

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Wakazashi and naginata, IIRC, though don't quote me on that.

48 hour turns sound good to me, though I'm willing to go shorter or longer if anyone has any other preferences.

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48 sounds just fine.

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Thanks Philo. That sounds right.

By "bio-anthropology" I meant Stargate: SG-1. My apologies.

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Yup, that's the names for the weapons. And also going with the whole two-handedness thing, the only one-handed weapon mentioned before, the wakizashi, was basically the main thing, that separated a soldier from a samurai. If a person had a wakizashi, that meant he's from nobility, or a samurai, otherwise, without the wakizashi, a person was a mere soldier. It was the only weapon, that a samurai could carry into a household of another nobility.

So that leaves all the other weapons to the cannon fodder, hence - no shields.

And if we'd take into account all the other one-handed weapons, as I can think of this little sickle, the kama, that was used in Japan as a weapon, if I'm not mistaken, those were a reaction to the ban of swords for the common men. Farmers and other not so noble and cool people had to defend themselves, so they adapted. However, these adaptation, to my knowledge, were never widely used in armies and major battles.

Oh, and I agree with the 48h, got carried away : )

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Server is up!

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Yep! Already played my turn. If any of you would like to submit to the peaceful undead legions now, we would be happy to march straight to your capital and shake your hand, following by showering you with flowers.

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Ps these provinces contain caps:
Caps:
10
26
33
37
66
72
113
133
134
136
169
173
188
205

And some starting locations are way better than others. (If you have 4+ provinces next to your cap you can gather much higher resources).

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What's with the VP markers? They don't seem to match the capital #s. Is there a pic forthcoming?

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They are randomly added and there is no VP victory setting. Controlling a prov with one is like having a 5 dominion temple, that's all.

On the starting locs, I tried to keep as many land starting locs as close to having 3 (no less) good land provs adjacent as possible. A few have 4, but not many. I figure the adjacent water provs is a mixed bag; you actually have to wrest them away from the water nations, and said water nations can also directly assail your capital from the sea. Of course, that's not so bad for LA atlantis, but the game forces them to start by a coast regardless. If anyone does have any complaints, I wish they would have given input during the couple days I was posting versions of the map and discussing it with Numahr :(

As far as a pic of the starting locs is concerned, I posted it awhile ago. Here it is!

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I'm not complaining. Was just a remark, just like a turn 2 barbarian attack, you take what you can get. And now I know what I can blame after I lose :).

And if somebody has a great cap position it is that much easier to gather up other players to attack him right? ;).

And the work you do is great. I doubt I would have the patience to set up and admin this many games.

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No complaints, I was just curious/confused about the VPs. And I wasn't sure if the previous pics matched the final decision for locations, since it was an ongoing process.

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I want to wish good luck to everyone and enjoy the game!:)

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I'd like to echo the good luck comment; hopefully everyone has a better, less crippling start than in LowSelfesteem.

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Yes, good luck.

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Good huntin'!

+ I'm having fun already, nice names : ) though I don't think Bandar Log has a blood fountain...

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Bandar Log does have access to the blood fountain, although that name might be more appropriate for LA Ulm.

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Is it possible to activate email notification when new turns are sent?

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I dont know about that but there is a site where you can check up on the progress of the game that Gandalf Parker provided us with at http://game.dom3minions.com/bin/privategames.cgi
just find the name of the game and you will see if there are still people to submit their turns.

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Today I cannot connect to the server for some reason, although I have a working internet connection. Do others experience the same thing?

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yep server must be down. I did connect to it 2 hrs ago

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For the other 3 people sharing a continent with me, I have a proposal you can't refuse
http://i.imgur.com/vjF1V.png

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lol dont touch my continent!!:)

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iRFNA: It just gets more hilarious each time I look at it.

Edit: Bad news everyone; Love has died.

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That is absolutely hilarious!! Thanks :)
(also...I'm in..)

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Oh, you soft-skinned humans, do have some oni in you, we feel proud of your devotion to war!

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Is the server down for anyone else?

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Okay, the server is hosting in 18 hours and I still can't connect. Whenever I try it asks me what nation I want to play, like usual, I hit LA Ermor and it goes to the loading screen with the stars, which runs for a few seconds before stopping; it never moves past this and I can't download my turn.

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Does it say "waiting for game info" while doing that? If so, that's odd, cause I don't have that problem and it usually affects everyone when it happens.

What do you mean, "stopping"?

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Gandalf says to try deleting your seaofinnocence folder cause it may be caused by a partial download. This should make it attempt to redownload everything and hopefully fix the problem.

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I don't even have a seaofinnocence folder. I was playing on a different computer when this game started and just transferred to this one, which is the one I play most of my games from. And it's having problem. By stopping, I mean freezing, and no, it doesn't say waiting for game info.

And apparently this isn't the only game where this is happening to me! It is happening in the other Gandalf's server game I am in.

Edit for clarification on the above statement: I have a folder for the other game I'm in.

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Maybe you should fake a folder? Just guessing anyhow.

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Huh, it's suddenly working now, despite me having not done anything special. Weird.

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I knew sacrificing that kitten would work!

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XD

Stephen Lynch - Kitten, youtube it, if you don't know the song ;)

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You drew something over MY continent! Prepare to die. You bad Van Gogh imitator!

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Can't we all just get along?

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WTF, I'm next to AA again? Damnit...

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Having problems again. Is there some sort of catch-all troubelshooting thread for Gandalf's server? I think it's related to my location's internet connection, rather than the server or my computer.