Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

Aye

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

I'm neutral.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

Neutral

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

True neutral.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

Neutral.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

You don't actually need to resend pretenders but I highly recommend you all do, particularly if you're playing one of the affected nations. But everyone got the scales change, so it's probably worth at least reviewing your design.

We have 5 Ayes, 0 nays, 7 neutrals and 6 abstains. unless all 6 of the abstains say no we're going with CBM1.9.

sansanjuan, yes to both your questions. To keep it simple and avoid any chance of error I'll delete all the sent pretenders once the decision is made.

Seeing the direction we're going I'll go ahead and attach the Y3_CB1.9.dm to the OP (it is currently set to 1.91).

EDIT: Add yandav's vote.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

aye

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

Given the amount of changes in CBM 1.9, it looks like players may need some extra time to work out their pretender builds. So please be patient while people look into the changes and adjust their builds accordingly when it comes time to submit pretenders.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

Indeed. I personally won't have time to rebuild mt pretender and check all the CBM changes and how they affect me at least before Monday.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

" **bug alert** Hero's Blade and Spider Poison(from Machaka's Swarm of Spiders) share #weapon 725. As such, those spiders are each tiny heroes, slaughtering all the 'big folk' in their path. Also Hero's Blade does stun damage and can be resisted with Poison Resistance. "

From other forum, dunno, 1.9 seems buggy...RAND game breaking buggy?...dunno.

EDIT; agree with Executor need the weekend to pore over the changes.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

That bug will be fixed in 1.92. Going to wait for the end of the weekend for any other bug reports before I release it. However you can go ahead and design pretenders with 1.91, it wont make any difference to them.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

ok. we're a go for CBM 1.9. I'll update OP accordingly.

Clearly, everyone needs more time to build their pretenders according to 1.9 so how about we aim to start the game this Wednesday?

Don't forget. Use the Y3_CB1.9.dm! This way I'll be able to distribute the fixes (1.92 and onward) w/o the need to redo pretenders or break the game.

I'll also go ahead and remove all current pretenders. Just to be on the safe side.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

So, for example, if I was playing Yomi, I would name my god Yomi? Just to make sure I'm not misunderstanding this.

Also, could you link ENP2 in the OP? I want to make sure I have the most up to date version.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

Yes

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

Yes.

Also, ENP2 link is already in the OP :)

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

Alright nevermind then, apparently I'm just blind. :doh:

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

"
Game: YARG3
Middle Age, max 18 players
Players so far: 11
"

7 more to go.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

"
Game: YARG3
Middle Age, max 18 players
Players so far: 16
"
2 to go.

Let's aim to send the 1st turn today.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

Fellow players. Please note that CB 1.92 is released. I have attached it to the OP as Y3_CB1.9.dm. Please make sure to replace the .dm you have!

I will also ask llamabeast to kindly copy it over to the server since currently the server doesn't expose such operations.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Pending nation assignment.
 

So players should redesign pretenders under 1.92 even if they've already designed them under 1.91?
ssj

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

Absolutely no!

This is the very reason this ploy was used. The only action item is to update the Y3_CB1.9.dm with the new copy from the OP.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

All pretenders are in. I'll start the game in a few hours.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

i think there is a problem.
I can see several VP side by side. Do i have the wrong map?
Or i miss something ?

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

Bullock, Please PM rdonj. He is the admin and should decide such matters.
Just in case, make sure you use the map attached to the OP.

EDIT: ok, since this info. doesn't infringe on ID disclosure I guess it can be discussed here.
I took a look at the map and indeed found two sets of adjacent VPs: 108+139, 125+145. Yucks. How can that be? :(
Doesn't dom know not to assign two adjacent starting points?
Anyway, I think this is a blocking problem and hope some solution could be found.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

I see at least 22 VP on the map which is more than number of players. I did a test where I created a game with 18 human controlled players and victory conditions set to 1 vp per capital. But for some nations I still had neighbouring neutral VP province.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

Thanks Danbo. So this actually looks like a server problem when generating the game.

AFAIR I created the game like this:

VPs required to win: 9 Cumulative VPs: off
VPs in capitals: Yes

VPs scattered on map (in addition to any given in the map file):
0

Note that for the latter (VPs scattered on map) 0 is the default so all I had to do is not touch.

I think it's time to contact the higher powers -> llama :)

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

Tada! :)

I'll take a look this evening.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

Just to be on the safe side I've added 24h to hosting.

llamabeast, thanks 4 your help. Perhaps it would be a nice idea to expose game generation logs and turn processing errors (if any) to the admin. This may help to save your precious time for more important stuff.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

As far as I can see our rogue vp's are hardcoded in the map, so they appear even if number of VP's is set to 0. So, I think we have two possible choices. Either we remove the points from the map and restart the game or put up with it and continue. But in the latter case the game obviously will be shorter and some players will have preferences due to their start position near VP.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

danbo, what is the keyword specifying hard coded VP?

I prefer to restart the game. It should be painless. I fix the map. Un-start the game. UL and chg the fixed map and restart. and voila one good YARG3 ready to roll.

If all this is true then I'm sorry for pointing a finger at you and at your loyal server llama.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

phew. Is it #victorypoints thingi?
If so I'll fix the map by removing them. Please LMK ASAP.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

WraithLord, I don't know map syntax but after I've deleted all the #victorypoints lines from the map code and created new test game all the excess VPs were gone.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

ok. I'm going to fix this based on your input.

Muchas gracias!!!

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

1st step. Fixed map attached to OP.
All, please use it.

next. fix game :)

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

ok. looks like we're good to go.
see settings:
"
Pretenders so far: 18
Max pretenders: 18
Map: Orania MP
Mods: ENP2, ver 1.02, YARG3 CBM 1.9
Middle Age
Independent strength 9
Score graphs on
Hall of fame size 15
Research on Difficult
VPs required for victory: 9
VPs in capitals
All other settings on default
"

I'm going to press the red button.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

Game restarted.

GL all :)

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

Had to add a delay to this turn for a couple of people, so it's a bit of a long one.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

Who was Abyssia?

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

Abysia was played by Ghoul31.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

so I guess that means we are getting assigned new nations?

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

don't answer that, I see abysia was defeated...I understand now.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

That's weird it seems i can't refresh this post (i saw the message from Rdonj in my mails but not here...)

Anyway i was Al-Nadim and very disappointed to not make it further.
But i've been stomped by Marignon's cavalry and didn't start the right research to counter them. Nasty Ctis take the opportunity of my weakness to grab few lands either.

Good luck to all the remaining pretenders.

Yeah someone else wrote the message for me, then deleted it later and didn't put it back up. Oops.

In any case I hope you've had fun and enjoyed the game! Even if you didn't get to last a little longer.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

YARG hosting in 11 hours.
I think something may be off.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

Go to:

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=YARG3

and click: 'Request turn resend'

to get your turn.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

I have my turn, the fact that the game hosted around 10 hours ago and that it's about to host in less than 10 is odd, especially since we're on a 48 hour schedule.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

Right. It was about to host in 3 hours. I took care of that. Thx 4 the heads up.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

I did make an attempt to postpone the game, but I don't think it went through the llamaserver because the turn should not have been hosting until sometime today. If you're experiencing some sort of problem with the game please pm me about it, otherwise my response time will be much lower.

Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. 18 players. Starting today.
 

Is it all okay now? I think I sorted stuff last night but I was a bit under the weather and forgot to post here.