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YES they CAN make a judgment and they did about 10 years ago and that's why it was sized to 3 and since, as you pointed out they are no photos available 3 is just as valid as 2 despite the guidelines that said that caliber weapon should be 2. 3 is acceptable to me. That photo was used simply becasue it was not well know and no photo, in all these years, as been located of the NK gun so yes, we aware it is a photo of the Artemis

Don

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You might find what you're looking for off this site. RECOMMEND you read the "About" section first, he's more qualified on matters North Korean then any of us will be. This site was very useful in the great P'okpoong MBT "discussion" from ~last Spring in the MBT section. You'll need to search the back issues (~20+/-) as he's discussed various weapons throughout amongst other topics, I just don't have the time at the moment as I've got other headaches to deal with during this critical upcoming week of transition at work-sorry.
http://www.kpajournal.com/
Marcello good to see you back, seems like it's been a while.

Regards,
Pat

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I've saved the link and will take a look at this as time allows

Don

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If that's my worst sin, I can't be doing too badly;)

SP Flak in all its guises.

Class 22 – SP Flak

Lift Capacity – Poland 200, Iraq 47, 48 & 526 and Afghanistan 324 have a lift capacity, although this is discouraged by the Mobhack Guide. None of the units requires a lift capacity for its formations.

Taiwan 50 has a Class 6 primary weapon.

Somalia 192 & 193 have RoF 8, all others have 9.

2S6 Tunguska – India 50, Yugoslavia 495 and Peru 87 have Size 4, all others have 5.
Yugoslavia 495 has Armour 3/2/1/2/1/1/1, all others have 3/2/2/2/2/2/2.

BTR-40A (and derivatives) – Iran 236, Russia 400, China 42, E.Germany 41, Red 520, Cambodia 43 and Tanzania 216 have Size 3, standard is 4.
Iran 236, S.Yemen 200 and Tanzania 216 have Crew 4, E.Gemany 41 has 5, standard is 3.
Standard speed is 22, with a few at 27. However, both Janes publications and http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1121.html would suggest that 27 is correct. Those units with Speed 22 are:- Poland 41, Syria 270, Iran 236, China 42, Iraq 41, N.Korea 41, NVA 425, E.Germany 41, Czech 41, Yugoslavia 489, Cambodia 43, Sudan 200, Viet Cong 481, S.Yemen 200, N.Yemen 200 and Peru 85.
Tanzania 26 has frontal armour (hull and turret) 1, all others have 2.

BTR-152A – Pakistan 236 and Zimbabwe 400 have Crew 3, NVA 426, E.Germany 40 and Red 517 have 5, others have 4, which Janes AFV Recognition Handbook has as correct.

BTR-152D – Pakistan 237 has Crew 3, Somalia 192 has 4, all others have 5.

M16 – France 450 and Tanzania 215 have Speed 18, Russia 399 has 22, standard is 24.

M19 – Netherlands 91, Turkey 104 and Italy 83 have Crew 4, all others have 6.
Turkey 104 has Speed 18, all others have 19.
USA 47 has Load Cost 10, all others have 21.
USA 47, Netherlands 91 and Italy 83 have Turret Front armour 2, all others have 1.

M42 Duster – France 451 and Nigeria 380 have Crew 4, all others have 6.
France 451 and Turkey 105 have Speed 26, all others have 24.
France 451, Green 86 and Nigeria 380 have Survivability 3, all others have 4.
Italy 84 has Load Cost 23, all others have 18.
Turkey 105 has Armour 4/3/2/3/1/1/0, all others have 3/2/2/2/1/1/0.

M113 (and derivatives) – PLO 213 has Crew 5 and Speed 18, similar units have 3/20.

M163 Vulcan – USA 50 & 208 (and 7 others) have Size 3; Thailand 512 & 513, Chile 87, Saudi 201 & 202, Sudan 201, Ecuador 86 and Somalia 193 have 4.
Jordan 312, Gulf 201 and Chile 87 have Speed 18, standard is 23.
Israel 105, USA 50 & 208, Gulf 201, S.Korea 49 and Albania 638 have Armour 3/2/1/3/2/1/1, the majority have 3/3/2/3/3/2/1.

Type 63 – China 40 has Speed 18, NVA 429 and Viet Cong 483 have 16. According to www.fas.org and www.globalsecurity.org, 16 is correct. China 40 also has Survivability 3, others have 4.

White Scout Car – Somalia 190 has Load Cost 5.

ZSU-23-4 – Afghanistan 320 and E.Germany 43 have Speed 15, all others have 17.
PLO 214 has Survivability 3, all others have 4.
N.Korea 620 has Load Cost 19, all others have 15.
E.Germany 43 has Armour 3/2/2/3/3/2/2, all others have 2/1/1/2/1/1/1.

ZSU-57-2 – Iraq 44 has Load Cost 31, all others have 21.
Iraq 44 has Armour 8/6/3/2/2/2/0, N.Korea 45 has 19/8/5/2/2/2/0, all others have 3/2/2/2/2/2/0. May be local modifications.

Class 128 – Light SPAA

Russia 978 has Load Cost 6.


Class 181 – AA Truck

USA 329 has Load Cost 9.

Somalia 280 has RoF 8, standard is 9.

Richard H

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Bit the bullet - back to helicopters.

Class 204 – Light Helicopter

This class will delight anybody who “welcomes, applauds and encourages diversity” (Andy G will catch my drift here!). Take for instance the Bell 47 – a simple enough beast, but with about 16 different names in 5 units. OK, let’s do a “Sort by Speed” . . . . fat chance, it has abot 8 different speeds as well! I begin to understand Don’s desire for name standardisation :>)

Don, if there are inconsistencies in this section (as in any other, of course) I apologise in advance, but some 350 units have taken me 2½ days, and it’s done my head in. I may even have another go at this class at the end – but that’ll be after the brain transplant . . .

Cosmetic point – Italy 587 & 588, Albania 128 and Malaysia 313 & 314 have ‘HEAT Top’ 2, ie they are ‘returners’.

Aerospatiale SA.315 Lama – Chile 118 has ‘Steel HF’ 8, all others have 4.

Aerospatiale SA.365 Dauphin – Angola 128 and Uruguay 272 have Survivability 3, standard is 4. They also have ‘Steel HF’ 4, standard is 6.

Aerospatiale AS.550 Fennec – France 507 and Paraguay 282 have Size 3, standard is 2.
Algeria 224 has Speed 102, which seems excessive. Others have 94 or 81. It also has Survivability 4, standard is 3.
Paraguay 282 has ‘Steel HF’ 4, standard is 6.

Sud-Est Alouette II – Sweden 580 has Survivability 1, standard is 2.
Switzerland 988 and Zimbabwe 110 have Stabiliser 0, although armed (standard is 5).
Greece 505 has Stabiliser 5, although unarmed.

Sud-Ouest Djinn – France 501 has Size 1, Switzerland 618 has 2. With a fuselage length of 17’ 5”, 1 seems more appropriate.
France 501 has Speed 35, Switzerland 618 has 65. Janes 1954 gives speed at 81 mph, which equates to 43.
French unit has Survivability 1 and Steel HF 5, Swiss has 3/3.
Swiss unit has dates 1/48 to 12/59. The Djinn’s first flight was in 1/53, and no relevant formation begins until 1/62. According to SIPRI, 4 were delivered between 1958 & 1959. No record of how long they stayed in service, but given the Swiss propensity for getting the most out of their aircraft. . . .

Sud Alouette III – Nigeria 137 has Survivability 3, Lebanon 125 has 1, standard is 2.
France 506, Gulf 114, ARVN 597, Greece 506, Turkey 492, Libya 112, Argentina 526, Austria 121, Albania 126, Chad 212, Lebanon 127, Indonesia 113, Portugal 279, UN 114 and Peru 124 have ‘Steel HF’ 5, Lebanon 125 has 3, standard is 4.

MBB Bo.105 – Green 536 and Nigeria 122 have Speed 90, standard is 80 or 82.
Iraq 106, Gulf 113, S.Korea 102, Netherlands 503, Spain 501 & 502, Chile 116 and Kenya 124 have ‘Steel HF’ 6, Peru 128 has 10, standard is 4.

Agusta A.109 – Belgium 208 & 209 and Sweden 587 have Size 3, all others have 2.
Belgium 208 & 209 have ‘Steel HF’ 10, Sweden 587 has 4, standard is 9.

Mil Mi-1 – Poland 424, Russia 310, China 110, E.Germany 113, Czech 550, Hungary 114, Romania 114 & 115, Cambodia 107, Finland 520, Indonesia 114 and Somalia 145 & 146 have Size 3, standard is 2.
Poland 424, China 110, E.Germany 113, Czech 550, Hungary 114, Romania 114, Cambodia 107, Finland 520, Indonesia 114 and Somalia 145 have Speed 76, standard is 67.
Russia 310 has Speed 62, which is probably closer to reality.
Poland 424, China 110, E.Germany 113, Czech 550, Hungary 114, Romania 114 & 115, Finland 520, Indonesia 114 and Somalia 145 & 146 have Survivability 3, Russia 310 has 0, standard is 1.
Poland 424, Algeria 225, Finland 520 and Indonesia 114 have ‘Steel HF’ 2, standard is 4.
NB I have included the SM-1 & SM-2 variants, because there was very little difference between them.

Mil Mi-2 – Afghanistan 115 has Size 2, all others have 3.
E.Germany 116, Czech 552, Hungary 115, Red 407 & 409 and Ukraine 311 have Speed 76, standard is 70.
Russia 311 has Survivability 0, Czech 552, Hungary 115, Red 407 & 409, Nicaragua 116, Peru 114 and Bulgaria 116 have 4, standard for this class is 3.

Mil Mi-34 – Russia 354 has Size 1, Slovakia 295 and Ukraine 354 have 3, all others have 2.
Brazil 114, Slovakia 295, Nigeria 127 and Ukraine 354 have Speed 80, standard is 70. They also have ‘Steel HF’ 4, others have 5.

Westland Wasp/Scout – UK 525 has Survivability 3, S.Africa 157 and Uganda 121 have 1, a slight majority have 2.
S.Africa 157 has ‘Steel HF’ 3, all others have 6.

Westland Gazelle – Egypt 114 has Speed 87, standard is 102.
France 509 and Jordan 103 ,have Survivability 4, standard is 3.
Syria 118 & 138 have ‘Steel HS’ 1, standard is 0.

Bell 47/H-13 (and derivatives) – Speeds vary from 37 to 68. From Janes and others, 56 is about right. The range is:-
37 – Sweden 579.
44 – India 137, Pakistan 400.
47 - Turkey 490, Italy 478.
65 – UK 524, Iran 264, USMC 157, Australia 432, Gulf 110, S.Korea 97, Greece 504, Denmark 110 & 111, Argentina 520, Austria 118, Cyprus 142, Cuba 120, Cambodia 109, Chile 115, Saudi 520, Indonesia 119 & 122, Malaysia 308, S.Yemen 110, N.Yemen 110, Uruguay 270, Paraguay 280.
67 – UN 115.
68 – ARVN 598, Norway 253, Green 529, Brazil 115, Angola 120, Nigeria 124, Kenya 121, Ecuador 115, Nicaragua 115, Peru 115, Tanzania 120, Uganda 120.
Japan 340, USA 282, India 137, Pakistan 400, Greece 504, Turkey 490, Spain 585, Italy 478 & 479, Thailand 488, Chad 214, Sweden 579 and Somalia 144 have Size 1, the majority have 2.
Japan 340, USA 282, Belgium 202, Turkey 490, Spain 585, Italy 478 & 479, Thailand 488, Chad 214 and Somalia 144 have Survivability 2, UK 524, India 137, Pakistan 400 and Malaysia 308 have 3, Iran 264 has 0, standard in this class is 1.
Japan 340, USA 282, Spain 585, Thailand 488 and Sweden 579 have ‘Steel HF’ 2, India 137, Pakistan 400, Turkey 490, Italy 478 & 479, Chad 214 and Somalia 144 have 6, standard is 3.

Bell 206/OH-58 (and derivatives) – Gulf 112, Afghanistan 118, Libya 114, Green 534, Argentina 524, Austria 122, Cyprus 144, Chile 117, Nigeria 125, Ethiopia 111, Saudi 523, Kenya 122, N.Yemen 112, Ecuador 116, Tanzania 122 and Uganda 122 have Size 2, standard over all classes is 3.
Austria 122, Chile 117 and N.Yemen 112 have Speed 94, standard is 79-80.
PLO 235, Turkey 491 and Sweden 583 have Survivability 2, Yugoslavia 119 and Croatia 119 have 4, standard is 3.
Israel 263, PLO 25, Iran 261, USA 296, Australia 434 & 435, Pakistan 402, Afghanistan 118, Turkey 491, Libya 114, Yugoslavia 119, Austria 122, Algeria 223, Croatia 119, Sweden 583 and UN 116 have ‘Steel HF’ 8, standard for this class is 5.

Hiller OH-23 – France 500, Netherlands 500 and Turkey 489 have Speed 40, Cuba 119 and Uruguay 268 have 64, Canada 403 has 65. Although those with Speed 51 are in a minority, Jane’s and others suggest that this is correct.
France 500, Cuba 119, Thailand 484 and Uruguay 268 have Survivability 1, all others have 2.
France 500 has ‘Steel HF’ 5, Canada 403 has 3, all others have 2.

Hughes 500/OH-6 – In this class 10 of these are Size 1, the majority Size 2. As the OH-6 is rather smaller than the OH-13, there’s a case for all of them to be Size 1 – but what a pain to plough through.
S.Korea 100 has Speed 70, all others have at least 80.
Italy 481 and Finland 522 have Survivability 3, standard in this class is 2.

Schweizer 300 – Sweden 584 has Speed 37, others have 56.

Sikorsky S-51 – Thailand 487 has Size 1, all others have 2.
Japan 338, Iraq 105 and Argentina 521 have Survivability 3, standard is 2. They also have ‘Steel HF’ 6, others have 2.

Richard H

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Heavies - mercifully much simpler.

Class 205 – Heavy Helicopter

Japan 503 & 515, USA 293 and Afghanistan 123 have ‘all-round’ Steel Armour.

Aerospatiale SA.321 Super Frelon – Israel 267, France 515, Pakistan 425 and S.Africa 465 have Size 3, standard (although the minority) is 4 – it’s about the same size as a Sea King.
Israel 267 has Survivability 5, all others have 4.
Pakistan 425 and S.Africa 465 have Lift Capacity 237, Libya 126 has 140. According to Janes, maximum load is 30 troops. Changing the figure would not affect any formations.
Israel 267 has ‘Steel HF’ 10, Iran 279, Iraq 113 and Libya 126 have 12, standard is 14.

Aerospatiale AS.332 Super Puma – Switzerland 219 and Sweden 575 have Survivability 4, standard is 3.
Switzerland 219 has Stabiliser 0, standard for armed versions is 4.
Switzerland 140, 218 & 219 have ‘Steel HF’ 10, standard is 12.

NH 90 – Sweden 577 has Speed 83, standard is 100.

Mil Mi-6 – Egypt 116, Syria 123, Iraq 111, NVA 214, Libya 123, Algeria 295 and Peru 534 are Size 4. Although they are the majority, the Mi-6 is very similar in size to the Mi-26, so I think 5 is more appropriate.
Russia 351 has Speed 83, Ukraine 351 has 66, standard is 100.
Russia 351 has Survivability 0, all others have 4.

Mil Mi-17 – Afghanistan 119 has Stabiliser 0, standard for armed versions is 4.

Mil Mi-26 – India 140, Libya 124, Cambodia 455 and Peru 541 have Size 6, standard is 5.
Ukraine 352 & 353 have Speed 72, all others have 98.
Russia 352 has Survivability 0, India 140, Libya 124, Cambodia 455 and Peru 541 have 6, standard is 4.

Boeing-Vertol CH-46 and derivatives – Green 563 and Saudi 527 have Speed 100, standard is 84.
Saudi 527 has ‘Steel HF’ 5, Sweden 576 has 6, standard is 10.

Boeing-Vertol CH-47 Chinook – Greece 590 and Spain 508 have Speed 88, standard is 100.
UK 533 & 534 have Survivability 3, standard is 4.
UK 533, Pakistan 417 and Argentina 538 have Stabiliser 0, standard for armed versions is 4.
Libya 125 has ‘Steel HF’ 6, Nigeria 145 and Tanzania 137 have 8, USA 895 has 13, standard is 12.

Sikorsky SH-3 Sea King – Japan 509, USA 897 and USMC 109 have Speed 59, which seems low. They are different models, but the lowest for all other models of SH-3 variants is 72.
Iran 269 has Stabiliser 0, standard for armed versions is 4.
Israel 268 & 269, Iran 274 & 276, USMC 123, Green 565 and W.Germany 333 have ‘Steel HF’ 8, Israel 270, USMC 124 & 313-316, Turkey 580, Italy 492 and Austria 124 have 10, standard is 14.

Sikorsky UH-60 – Afghanistan 123 has Survivability 6, standard is 4. It also has ‘Armour’ 12/4, standard is 10/2.

Richard H

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Last of the helicopters.

Class 221 – Light Attack Helicopter

Sud Aviation Alouette III – Portugal 118, 119 & 535 have ‘Steel HF’ 5, standard is 4.

Agusta A.109 – Belgium 268 has Size 3, Speed 82 and ‘armour’ 10/0, standards are 2/104/8/1.
Belgium 268 and Italy 501, 905 & 906 have Survivability 3, standard is 4.

Agusta A.129 Mangusta – Italy 503, 505 & 910 have Size 1, standard is 2.

Mil Mi-2 – Russia 314 & 361 have Speed 53, standard is 70. They also have Survivability 0, standard is 4.

Westland Wasp – Malaysia 544 has Speed 73, standard is 64. It also has Survivability 3, standard is 2.

Bell OH-13 – USA 277 has Size 1 (standard is 2), Survivability 2 (standard is 1) and ‘Steel HF’ 2 (standard is 3).

Bell UH-1 – Netherlands 518 has Survivability 3, standard is 4.

Bell 206/OH-58 – Malaysia 540 and 541 have a ‘Steel HR’ figure. They also have Size 2, standard is 3.

Sikorsky H-19 – France 503 has Size 4, standard is 3. It also has ‘Steel HF’ 6, standard is 5.


Class 222 – COIN Armed Helicopter

Bell AH-1 – USMC 504 & 505 have Size 3, standard is 2. They also have ‘Armour’ 8/2, standard is 10/3.

Richard H

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Engineers in all their guises.

Class 20 – Engineers

France 378 has 30 Weapon 2 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 7 Crew.

Syria 387, Italy 365 and Bulgaria 108 & 109 have 30 Weapon 2 (Hand Grenade) rounds, Russia 685 has 27, for 8 Crew.
Syria 386 and Zimbabwe 350 have 30 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds, Canada 107, 108, 111 & 113 have 27, for 8 Crew.
UK 137 has 20 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds, Canada 109 & 110 have 27, for 8 Crew.

Norway 482 has 24 Weapon 2 (Hand Grenade) rounds, Spain 302 has 30, for 9 Crew.
Australia 154 has 20 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 9 Crew.

Somalia 468 & 469 have 27 Weapon 2 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 10 Crew.
Somalia 465-467 have 27 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 10 Crew.

Poland 109 (10 Crew) runs partly concurrently with 110 (8 Crew).

Russia 769 (9 Crew) runs partly concurrently with 450-452, which have both 10 and 8 Crew.

E.Germany 431 (10 Crew) runs concurrently with several 8-man units.

Czech 109 (10 Crew) runs partly concurrently with 110 (8 Crew).

Hungary 108 (10 Crew) runs partly concurrently with 109 (8 Crew).

Bulgaria 109 (8 Crew) runs partly concurrently with 110 (8 Crew).


Class 140 – Pioneers

Lebanon 429 has 27 Weapon 2 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.
Lebanon 430 has 27 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds, Bulgaria 103 & 104 have 30, for 8 Crew.
Canada 88-90 have 21 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.

Norway 486 has 24 Weapon 2 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 9 Crew.

Bulgaria 104 (8 Crew) runs partly concurrently with 105 (10 Crew). Neither is a template unit.


Class 141 – Para Engineers

Czech 470 & 471 have 30 Weapon 2 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.

UK 124 has 30 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.

Poland 471 (10 Crew) runs concurrently with 472 (8 Crew). They are otherwise identical, and neither is a template unit.

Greece 313 (10 Crew) runs partly concurrently with 314 (8 Crew). It is a template unit.

Ethiopia 436 (12 Crew) runs partly concurrently with 452 (9 Crew). From looking at the formations involved, there is an organisational change starting 4/78.


Class 145 – Commando Engineers

UK 128 has 30 Weapon 4 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 8 Crew.

Viet Cong 257-259 have 20 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 9 Crew.


Class 166 – Ski Pioneers

France 532 has 30 Weapon 2 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 7 Crew.


Class 170 – Guards Engineers

Iraq 447 & 448 have 30 Weapon 2 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 9 Crew.


Class 171 – Marines Engineers

Switzerland 648 & 649 have 24 Weapon 2 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 9 Crew.

S.Korea 364 has 4 weapons, but no ammunition.


Class 195 – Engineer Support Squad

Spain 252, Italy 270, 271 & 295 and Switzerland 934-938 have Speed 7, all others have 6.

ARVN 580 has Size 1 for Crew 2. May be because it has a flamethrower as Weapon 1.

Turkey 367-369 have RoF 9, standard with Flamethrower as primary weapon is 4.

Norway 473 has 24 Weapon 3 (Hand Grenade) rounds for 9 Crew.

Richard H

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BTR-40A - according to Russian sources (Bronyekollektsya by Bariatynski) speed = 80 km/h (some 27), crew 4 (should be standard). It wasn't big - silhouette was a bit smaller, than M-113 (size 3), and much smaller then BTR-152 (4).

(I wonder, if turret should be armoured at all - gun's crew was vulnerable).

BTR-152A - according to Bariatynski, gun's crew was 3, +driver, + most likely commander = 5. It could also take 6 soldiers onboard and tow something.

3/2/1 seems more correct for a basic vehicle

Regards
Michal

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Mi-1 - It was quite big as for "light Western helicopter" standards, so 3 is quite right (as Gazelle). As I wrote before, real speed according to Russian & Polish sources (who manufactured them) was 170 km/h - some 57.

Mi-2 - Speed is usually stated at 210 km/h - 70.

Mi-34 - size 2 seems appropriate.

Mi-6 - Yes, it was huge. Cruise speed was some 250 km/h, so 83 is perfect.

Regards
Michal

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Class 36 – Mineclearing Tanks

My thinking with this and all other tank-based units has been to back off, unless something really starts to glare at me. So a difference of 1 in speed or armour rating I have left alone; I have only addressed a difference of 1 where it is in the range 1-6 (size, survivability etc), and have largely let speed differences get to 3 (10 kph) before I have highlighted them. If there has been, say, a RoF difference between exactly similar guns, I have addressed it, otherwise not. Likewise, countries may well have their own FC/Rangefinder fit, so I have left these alone unless the country of manufacture shows significantly reduced capabilities against its exports – and then only with major exporting countries.

T-72 KMT-6 – Poland 220 & 221 have Speed 21, all others have 25.

M84 Mine Plough – Gulf 193 & 198 have RoF 8, all others have 6 or 7.

Sherman Flail – France 584 has Crew 5, all others have 4. It also has Speed 10 (all others have 13) and Survivability 3 (all others have 4).

M48 Roller – Iran 178 and USA 194 have Size 6, all others have 5.
Iran 178 has Survivability 6, all others have 4.

M48A3 Roller – USA 616 has Size 6, all others have 5.

M60 Mine Plough – Jordan 196, USA 197 and Gulf 197 & 199 have Size 6, all others have 5.
Italy 98 and UN 217 have Speed 14, all others have 16.

ABV – USA 765 has RoF 6 (standard for a 50cal is 9).


Class 37 – Engineer Vehicles

AMX-30 EBG – Saudi 196 has Speed 20, all others have 22.
France 589 & 591 have FC 0 and Rangefinder, all others have 12/5.
France 589 is an interesting vehicle. It’s only available for a year (1/91-12/91) during the life of 589, but with reduced frontal armour. Was it a special version for 1st Gulf? Just my musings . . . .

Bulldozer – Japan 30, USMC 35, Norway 550, Italy 91, Austria 550, Slovakia 550, Switzerland 952, Chad 525 and Chechnya 550 have Survivability 1, standard is 0.
Switzerland 952 is only available until 1/120, standard is 12/120.

Pionierpanzer (Leopard) 1 – W.Germany 36 and Brazil 213 have RoF 6, standard for MG main armament is 9.

Leopard Dozer – Belgium 193 has Survivability 5, standard is 4. It also has Armour 16/5/3/21/6/6/2 and 114/9/3/38/7/8/2, others have 23/8/4/27/12/9/3 and 121/12/5/65/18/14/3. It may, however, be based on an earlier model.

Leopard 2 Dozer – Canada 643 has Armour 75/45/9/100/45/25/9 and 115/65/15/130/56/45/16. Standard 2A6 dozer armour is 62/17/6/100/30/15/5 and 180/52/15/130/50/30/12.

Centurion Dozer – Canada 195 has RoF 6, other 20-pdr 52 have 7.

Centurion AVRE – S.Yemen 196 has a 105mm M101 as main armament. Can’t see it myself, and I suspect it’s a copy of the S.African unit (both have Weapon 106 as main armament) without the weapon. As Weapon 106 isn’t used by any other S.Yemeni unit, a copy of the S.African weapon will sort it.

Sherman Dozer – Turkey 208 has Speed 16, standard is 13.
France 585, Iran 181, S.Korea 190, Taiwan 190, Pakistan 180, Netherlands 98 and Algeria 540 have Survivability 3, all others have 4.
Canada 194 has RoF 5, others with similar main armament have 7.
Iran 181 has Front Armour 15 & 113, standard is 11 & 109.

M728 – Egypt 214 has Survivability 5, all others have 4. It also has FC and Rangefinder 0/0, all others have 8/8.

Richard H

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Richard, as of today we do not need any further reports regarding differing Hand grenade allotments between units. We have built a program to correct these automatically based on unitclass so if you find anymore just skip over them.

Don

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Nice one Don, and thanks for the heads-up.

Richard H

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Commandos - now much reduced in size:)

Class 83 – Commandos

PLO 472 is the only 10-man unit in this class in the oob, and runs concurrently with the 6-man units.


Class 85 – Light Commandos

Chile 344 (6 Crew) runs concurrently with the other 4-man units. It is not a template unit, nor is it X3-coded.

Richard H

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Cavalry

Class 3 –Cavalry

Switzerland 888 & 889 have Speed 9, standard is 12.

Israel 155 and China 320-323 have Load Cost 100, standard is 25 or 28.


Class 150 – Cavalry Scouts

Egypt 583, Jordan 540, China 325-327, Gulf 595, Green 415 & 416, Argentina 265 & 266, Algeria 582 & 583, Chile 560 & 561, Chad 583, Saudi 475, Sudan 583 and Portugal 430-435 have Load Cost 100, standard is 25. As there are a lot of these, I wonder whether it’s a design thing?

Richard H

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It's to to keep small cav units from being loaded into trucks . Large units with their combined men and weight normally exceeds truck carry cap but small scout units won't so they get 100 to ensure that won't happen but it does mean they cannot be loaded into landing craft....not that this is really an issue

Don

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AS WELL, you can now refrain from reporting deviations in the size of any infantry type unit. That will be handled in the same way as the Hand grenade deviations.


Don

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You've been busy! Really looking forward to the mod already - March/ April as usual?

Damn shame I've nearly finished the infantry units :(

Richard H

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I had a lot of "fun" in my OOB variant making sure certain vehicles could be transported by CH-53s but not CH-46s/MV-22s (the LAV for instance).

I spent more time coming up with weights (which have ZERO relationship to their real world mass) for stuff then I'm certain Andy/Don have time/inclination to do for the other 61 OOBs in the game.

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Tee-hee - and if only they only had another 61:D

Infantry ATGM

Class 206 – Infanty ATGM

Israel 147 has Survivability 1, all others have 0.

Poland 488, Syria 108 & 111, Iran 437-439, Red 63, Slovakia 56 and Chile 107 have Load Cost 1, all others have 0.

Eryx – Malaysia 440 has RoF 6, all others have 5.

Milan – Australia 141 & 142 have RoF 8, Pakistan 313, Bosnia 223, Croatia 223 and Uruguay 98 have 5, standard is 4.

AT-3 Sagger – NVA 205 & 206 have FC & Rangefinder 1/1, all others have 0/0.

AT-4 Fagot – Poland 73, 287 & 288 have Crew 2, standard is 3.

AT-7 Metis – Syria 110, Algeria 102, Slovakia 63 and Croatia 225 have Crew 3, standard is 2.


Class 207 – Paratroop ATGM

Poland 489 has Load Cost 1, all others have 0.

Dragon – Argentina 485 has Crew 3, all others have 2.

HJ-8 – Indonesia 538 has Speed 3, standard is 6.


Class 212 – Heavy Infantry ATGM

Egypt 520-524 have a Swim Speed. IMHO, they might get away with a Milan, but they’d need some big flotation bags for a 27kg Swingfire!

Canada 289-293 have RoF 9, standard for SS.11 and TOW is 4.

SS.11 – Italy 451 has RoF 3, standard is 4.

TOW – Turkey 363 & 364, Denmark 274-277 and Thailand 77 & 78 have Load Cost 1, standard is 0.


Class 213 – Para Heavy ATGM

Bosnia 231 and Ecuador 350 have Speed 3, standard is 6.

Richard H

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Just encountered this completely at random and I'm uncertain whether it has any effect on the gaming itself:

Finnish OOB (#65)
Weapon #21
.50 Tkiv 2000 (Sniper Rifle) has a weapon class 3 (Team Weapon), all other sniper rifles are in class 1 (Inf primary weapon)

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Finnish OOB unit #310 PzJaeger Sec
Available Until 1/120, should be 12/120, unless edits from another thread about the reformation in 2015 are applied.

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It's not unique; Malaysia, Poland and the Netherlands have something similar. Depends on the oob designer, I suspect.

Richard H

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SP ATGM

Class 19 – SP ATGM

AT-1 Shmel – Cuba 96 has RoF 3, standard is 4.

TOW – Netherlands 51 & 52 have RoF 9, standard is 4.

BOV-1 – Angola 297 has Steel TF Armour 2, all others have 3.

BRDM-1 – Egypt 350 and Algeria 336 have Speed 29, all others have 27.

BRDM-2 – Egypt 351 and Algeria 337 have Speed 36 and Swim Speed 2, all others have 32 and 3.
Iraq 226 & 227, Cuba 98 & 99, Angola 295, Nicaragua 470 and Tanzania 295 have Size 2, all others have 3.

GAZ-69 – Egypt 345 and Algeria 335 have Speed 20, standard is 24.

Land Rover – Denmark 37-39 have Speed 21, standard is 24.

HMMWV – Greece 56 & 57 have Survivability 0, standard for armoured versions is 2.

Jeep – Jordan 275 & 277, Gulf 203 and Denmark 35 & 36 have Speed 21, standard is 24.
Gulf 203 & 204 and Saudi 205 have Hand Grenades as Weapon 2.

M113 – Belgium 30 has Survivability 3, all others have 4.

M150 – Iran 531 and Turkey 56 & 57 have Speed 18, Greece 67 & 68 have 21, standard is 23.

M901 – Sizes are mixed. Jordan 281, USA 28, Iraq 229 & 604, Greece 69 & 70 and Thailand 42 have 3, leaving a narrow majority with 2.
Jordan 281 and Pakistan 195 have Speed 18, standard is 23.


Class 52 – Wheeled SP ATGM

HOT – Hungary 418 has RoF 6, standard is 4.

Milan – Italy 56 has RoF 9, standard is 4.

AT-3 Malyutka (and derivatives) – N.Korea 33 & 34 and Cambodia 525 have RoF 9, standard is 4.

AT-5 Konkurs – Poland 34 & 553, Iraq 261, Czech 34 and Slovakia 29 have RoF 6, standard is 4.

TOW – Italy 57 and Portugal 353 have RoF 9, Portugal 351 has 5, standard is 4.

BRDM-2 – Iraq 260 & 261, N.Korea 33 & 34 and Cambodia 525 are Size 2, all others are 3.

GAZ-69/UAZ-69 – Egypt 235 has Speed 21, standard is 24.
Poland 433 & 434, E.Germany 29, Czech 433 & 434 and Hungary 433 & 434 have Swim Speed 3, standard is 0.
Sudan 205 is the only ATGM-armed vehicle to have FC and Rangefinder.
Poland 433 & 434 and Sudan 205 are the only armoured versions.

HMMWV – Poland 77 is the only unit with a Lift Capacity.


Class 129 – Light SP ATGM

Sweden 198 & 199 have Load Cost 0.


Cobra – Chile 480 has RoF 9, standard is 4.

Mamba – Argentina 580 has RoF 9, standard is 4.

Milan – Italy 48 has RoF 6, France 464 & 655 have 9, standard is 4.

AT-2 Falanga – Red 503 has RoF 6, standard is 4.

AT-3 Malyutka – Red 504 & 505 and Eritrea 295 have RoF 9, standard is 4 (6 for Russian units).

AT-5 Konkurs – Red 507 has RoF 9, standard is 4 (5 for Russian units).

TOW – Norway 37 has RoF 9, standard is 4.


EE-3 Jaracara – Cyprus 26 has Top Armour 2, Brazil 444 & 445 have 1. Standard for the EE-3 is 2.

VAB VCAC – France 464 & 655 have Crew 8 & Speed 30, Cyprus 24 & 25 have 4 & 33. According to Janes, the French figures are correct.

BRDM-1 – Russia 380-382 are Size 2, all others are 3.
Red 502 has Speed 29, all others have 27.

BRDM-2 – Russia 630-632 have Steel HF 2, all other Russian versions have 3.

Jeep – Jordan 214 & 215 and India 465-468 have Speed 21, Chile 480 has 26, standard is 24.

M966 HMMWV – Nicaragua 260 is the only armoured version. If it is armoured, strictly speaking it’s a M1045. But it’s cosmetic.

Richard H

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Anti-Tank Guns

Class 6 – Anti-Tank Gun

25mm SA34 – Syria 520 has RoF 9, Spain 347 has 8. Standard in WW2 appears to be 9.

3.7cm PaK 36 – Israel 160 has Crew 6 and Load Cost 2, standard is 5/1.

37mm M5 – Argentina 215, Ecuador 215, Uruguay 140 and Paraguay 108 have Crew 4, standard is 5.
Ecuador 215 has Load Cost 3, all others have 1.

37mm Type 1 – N.Korea 475, ARVN 585, Cambodia 475 and Viet Cong 74 have Size 1, standard for 37mm is 0.
N.Korea 475 and Cambodia 475 have Crew 5 and Load Cost 1, standard is 6/2.
N.Korea 475 has Speed 1, standard is 2.

2-pdr – Jordan 70, Iraq 230 and Libya 255 have Crew 5, Mujahadeen 255, Afghanistan 255, Ethiopia 255 and Lebanon 320 have 6, standard is 4.
Greece 295, Libya 255, Ethiopia 255 and Lebanon 320 have Speed 2, Tanzania 340 has 0, standard is 3.
Mujahadeen 255, Afghanistan 255, Libya 255, Ethiopia 255 and Lebanon 320 have Load Cost 2, standard is 1.

45mm M1942 – N.Korea 476 has Speed 1, Mujahadeen 258, Afghanistan 259 and N.Yemen 343 have 3, standard is 2.

47mm Breda – Greece 297, Spain 351, Libya 257, Brazil 216 and Chile 216 have Crew 5, a small majority have 6.
Italy 113 and Argentina 216 have Speed 1, Brazil 216, Chile 216 and Eritrea 343 have 2, standard is 3.
Spain 351, Brazil 216 and Chile 216 have Load Cost 1, standard is 2.

47mm Schneider – Syria 521 and Lebanon 322 have Speed 1, standard is 2.

5cm PaK 38 – Finland has Size 1 and Speed 1, standard is 0/2.
Romania 300 and Bulgaria 312 have Load Cost 2, standard is 1.

57mm ZiS-2 (and derivatives) – Egypt 261, Syria 522, Romania 339, Eritrea 344 and Bulgaria 315 & 316 have Size 1, standard is 0.
Egypt 261, Poland 78 & 81 and Libya 258 have Crew 5, standard is 6.
Poland 78, Syria 523, Mujahadeen 259 & 260, Afghanistan 260, E.Germany 80, Romania 304, Algeria 183, Indonesia 165, S.Yemen 341, N.Yemen 344, Nicaragua 217 and Bulgaria 315 & 316 have Speed 2, standard is 1.
NB France 104 has Speed 2, standard for the M1 is 1.
Egypt 261, Czech 78 & 81 and Cuba 331 have Load Cost 1, standard is 2.

6-pdr/57mm M1 – Jordan 71, India 72 & 73, S.Korea 560, Taiwan 560, Pakistan 77 & 78, Norway 103 & 371, Denmark 268 & 269, S.Africa 70 and Ethiopia 256 have Crew 6, Canada 431 and Portugal 240 have 4, standard is 5.
France 104, Jordan 71, Australia 210, India 72 & 73, S.Korea 560, Taiwan 560, Pakistan 77 & 78, Belgium 420, Netherlands 355, Canada 431, Denmark 268 & 269, S.Africa 70 and Indonesia 164 have Load Cost 2, standard is 1.
Tanzania 341 has RoF 7, all others have 8.

75mm M20 RCL (and derivatives) – Albania 90 has Crew 8, standard is 6.
China 630 and Albania 90 have Size 1, standard is 0.

7.5cm PaK 97/38 – Norway 373 and Bulgaria 313 have Speed 2, Norway 107 has 1, standard is 0.

7.5cm PaK 40 – NVA 124 and Hungary 76 have Crew 7, standard is 6.
Norway 374 and Bulgaria 314 have Speed 2, Norway 108 has 1, standard is 0.

76mm M1 – France 105 has Crew 5, standard is 6.
USA 257 and Green 217 & 218 have Load Cost 2, standard is 3.

76.2mm ZiS-3 (and derivatives) – N.Korea 650 has Speed 1, standard is 0.
Cyprus 55 has Crew 5, standard is 6.
Austria 188 and Nigeria 342 have Load Cost 2, Cyprus 55 and Tanzania 342 have 1, standard is 3.

17-pdr – Load Cost is either 2 or 3 (6 each), except for Italy 114, which has 1. Standard for others of similar size is 3. Those with Size 2 are:- Israel 163, Gulf 342 & 343, Saudi 343 & 344 and N.Yemen 342.

85mm D-44 – Iran 114, Mujahadeen 263, Afghanistan 262 & 263, Red 493 & 494, Cuba 335, Ethiopia 262, Sudan 344 & 345 and Eritrea 346 have Crew 8, standard is 6.
The above units, plus Iraq 235 & 236 and N.Korea 478 & 479, less Ethiopia 262, have Load Cost 2, standard for a 85mm is 3.
Sudan 345 is called ‘D-48’, although its primary weapon is called and has the stats of a D-44.

85mm D-48 – NVA 127, Cuba 336 & 337, Viet Cong 79, S.Yemen 343, N.Yemen 346 and Somalia 345 have Crew 8. Although those with Crew 6 are a minority, http://русская-сила.рф/...y/ar/d48.shtml confirms this as correct.
The above units, plus N.Korea 480, have Load Cost 2, standard for a 85mm is 3.

85mm M52 (and derivatives) – Cambodia 479 has Crew 8, Austria 189 has 7, standard is 6.
E.Germany 81 & 82 have Speed 1, standard is 0.
Czech 82 & 85 have Load Cost 1, Egypt 264 has 2, standard is 3.
Egypt 264 has FC 0, all others have 5.

100mm BS-3 – Iraq 238, Mujahadeen 264 and Red 495-497 have Crew 9, standard is 6 or 8 (split about evenly, as are the authorities.
Cyprus 56 has Load Cost 1, NVA 128 and Czech 83 & 84 have 2, Nicaragua 219 has 4, all others have 3.
NB Although the Czech unit is a later development, it is actually slightly heavier than the BS-3.

100mm T-12/2A29 – Cuba 94 has Crew 7, Iran 115, NVA 470 & 471, Afghanistan 265, E.Germany 320. Hungary 85 & 550, Viet Cong 81 and N.Yemen 348 & 349 have 8, Iraq 240 & 241 and Mujahadeen 265 have 9, standard is 6.
NVA 470 & 471 have Load Cost 2, standard is 3.

106mm RCL – Malaysia 220 & 221 have Speed 2, standard is 3.

B-10 RCL (and derivatives) – China 631 & 632 and Mozambique 22 have Size 1, standard is 0.

B-11 RCL – Iraq 242, Mujahadeen 266 and Afghanistan 266 have Size 0, standard is 1.
Zimbabwe 55 has Crew 7, all others have 6.
Libya 259 and Bulgaria 322 have Speed 1, Cuba 338, Zimbabwe 55 and Mozambique 23 have 2, standard is 3.
Cuba 338 has Load Cost 1, all others have 0.

M40 106mm RCL – Jordan 74, Iraq 810, Netherlands 358 and Nigeria 343 have Size 0, standard is 1.
Jordan 74 and S.Africa 72-75 have Crew 4, standard is 6.
Zimbabwe 56 has Speed 2, all others have 3.

M59 RCL – Czech 377 has Speed 0. AFAIK it carries no particular weight penalty, and it is wheeled.

120mm Mobat – Jordan 73 has Crew 4, standard is 6.


Class 157 – Light AT Gun

76.2mm ZiS-3 – Cyprus 266 has Crew 5 and Load Cost 1, standard is 6/3.

106mm M40 RCL - Malaysia 220 & 221 have Speed 2, standard is 3.


Class 158 – Heavy AT Gun

Ukraine 585 has Start Date 1/3. Should maybe be 1/103?
If this and 584 are the same gun ‘family’ as the Russian Sprut, they have Size 1, Speed 0 and RoF 5, Russian versions have 2, 3 and 6.

2A29 – Bosnia 423 has Crew 6, standard is 8.

90mm M40 – Spain 160 has Crew 8, Italy 166 has 10. The only other example I can find (Argentina 219) has 8.

Richard H

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Off-Map Artillery

Class 10 – Off-Map Field Artillery

Uruguay 613 has a Survivability rating.

Bosnia 377 has a Lift Capacity.

UK 198 has an Armour rating (Steel Top).

57 units have a Load Cost. Probably cosmetic.

Poland 178, Russia 811, Canada 388 & 390, Cyprus 97 and Sweden 462 have AP rounds.

76mm M1936 – Poland 500 has RoF 8, standard is 7.

76mm ZiS-3 – Egypt 181 has RoF 8, standard is 7.

3 inch Naval – Norway 301 & 302 have RoF 7, Netherlands 146 and Norway 303 have 8, standard is 9.

76mm Naval – Poland 183 has RoF 6, standard is 9.

25-Pdr – Tanzania 225 and Uganda 225 have RoF 6, standard is 7.

100mm Naval – Norway 299 & 300 and Bulgaria 180 have RoF 7, Poland 180, Italy155, E.Germany 180 and Romania 180 have 9, standard is 8.

122mm D-30 – Egypt 183 has RoF 7, standard is 6.

127mm/5 inch Naval – France 568 and Chile 162 have RoF 6, NVA 599, Italy 158 and Brazil 161 have 8, standard is 7.

130mm Naval – E.Germany 181 has RoF 8, Poland 182 has 9, standard is 7.

152mm Naval – E.Germany 182 has RoF 5, standard is 6.

155mm M777 – Poland 171 and Canada 387 have RoF 6, Poland 178 has 7, standard is 4.

320mm Naval – Spain 140 has RoF 4, Italy 163 has 6.


Class 155 – Off-Map Medium Artillery

Uganda 229 & 231 and Uruguay 390 have a Size rating.

USA 526-529, 535-538 & 803-805, Australia 201 and Somalia 233 & 234 have a Lift Capacity.

Iraq 183, Spain 132, Italy 142, Czech 369, Brazil 171, Cuba 271, Algeria 143, 144 & 146, Switzerland 839, 840, 860 & 861, Thailand 368 & 369, Angola 228, 229 & 232, Sweden 450, 452 & 453, Nicaragua 172, Somalia 232, Tanzania 232 & 233 and Uganda 228 & 229 have a Load Cost.

Libya 178, Brazil 171 and Switzerland 839, 840 860 & 861 have Survivability ratings.

Switzerland 839, 840 860 & 861 have Stabiliser ratings.

Cuba 271 has a Rangefinder rating.

47 units have AP rounds. Would you like me to list them?

Switzerland 610 & 739 have sabot rounds.

Libya 178, Brazil 171 and Switzerland 860 & 861 have Armour ratings.

122mm M1937 – N.Korea 645 & 646 have RoF 4, standard is 6.

130mm M46 – Egypt 184 has RoF 7, standard is 5.

149mm Mo.35 – Italy 133 has RoF 4, standard is 5.

152mm D-1 – Egypt 185 has RoF 4, standard is 5.

155mm M777 – USA 512 has RoF 6, standard is 4.


Class 156 – Off-Map Heavy Artillery

Paraguay 203 is the only unit with a Size rating.

Gulf 508, Belgium 159, Brazil 177, Cuba 275 & 276, Algeria 149-151, Switzerland 627 & 771, Angola 234 & 235, Nigeria 238, Sweden 457 & 464, Lebanon 284, 287 & 288, Eritrea 235, Peru 173, Tanzania 234 & 235 and Paraguay 201 have a Load Cost.

Gulf 508, Yugoslavia 571 & 572, Brazil 175 & 177, Switzerland 627 & 771, Croatia 572, Nigeria 238, Sweden 459 and Lebanon 286 are the only units with Survivability ratings.

Iraq 843, Yugoslavia 385 & 386, Cambodia 180 and Croatia 385 & 386 have Lift Capacity 3, all others have 0.

Switzerland 627 & 771 are the only units with FC, Stabiliser and Rangefinder ratings.

Switzerland 627 is armoured, but off-map.

Gulf 508, Brazil 175 & 177 and Sweden 459 also have (Steel) armour ratings.

Crews vary, but this would be (I think, correct me if I’m wrong) a purely cosmetic exercise. Fine when we’ve nothing better to do.

24 units have AP rounds.

152mm D-1 – Poland 176, 186 & 502 have RoF 4, standard is 5.

152mm D-20 – Czech 506 has RoF 4, standard is 5.

155mm L/52 – Poland 759 has RoF 8, standard for this weapon is 6.

175mm M113 – USA 812 has RoF 3, standard is 4.

203mm – Russia 188, Czech 507 and Kenya 95 have RoF 2, standard for 203mm is 3.

I note that Turkey 148, Yugoslavia 571 & 572, Croatia 572 and Portugal 228 are in this class rather than Class 10.


Class 211 – Off-Map Minelet Battery

S.Korea 163 has RoF 3, all others have 1.

Richard H

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Footnote to Class 10 is that I rather think (and it's only a think without my reference books) that 320mm is a spurious calibre for the Spanish Navy. Their last battleships de-commissioned in 1937.

Richard H

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IIRC they kept some heavy caliber guns in coastal batteries for quite a long time after that.

Well it depends on which type of 3inch it actually is. It can go from WW2 style guns firing 15-20 RPM to modern turrents capable of 120 RPM and all the ROFs in between.

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"De-commissioned" is maybe not a proper term for Spanish battleships, since they both sunk in 1937, on both sides of the civil war ;-) Moreover, they had 305 mm guns, not 320 mm.

I don't know how about coastal batteries, but I think, that they are rather not relevant to land combat, especially that they usually point at sea only.

Michal

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Speed 32/3 is correct (95/9 km/h). Size 3 seems proper - it was somewhat bigger, than M113.

I'd say rather 3... It is a size of BTR-40.

though it's a surprisingly low machine, when I saw it in a museum that summer (and even climbed it ;) - 190 cm.

Michal

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It depends on the emplacement costruction. In many cases they were mounted on rotating turrets with good fields of fire.
These for example could train on 300°. http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNSpain_15-45_mkB.htm
In any case IIRC these guns can only be used during naval landings type scenarios, so they would already be restricted.

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Single artillery pieces.

I don’t know whether it’s a game convention (can’t find it in the GG), but very few units in the ‘single artillery piece’ classes (9, 154, 184, 196) have FC and Rangefinder ratings. I’ve listed them in each class, just in case. There are also very few with a third weapon; I haven’t listed these, but it would be no problem to do so.

Class 9 – Field Gun

Poland 540, Pakistan 92, Belgium 280 and Denmark 86 are the only units with FC ratings.

Poland 540, Jordan 90, Australia 206 & 207, Gulf 100, Pakistan 92, 96 & 100, Belgium 280, Norway 82 & 83, Canada 266, Greece 146, Denmark 86, Czech 368, Libya 103, S.Africa 78, Saudi 100, Sudan 97 & 106, Portugal 82, Malaysia 140 and N.Yemen 100 & 107 are the only units with a Rangefinder rating.

Switzerland 801 has no primary weapon – Weapon 125 is blank. Weapon 112 would serve.

65mm L/17 – Syria 80 has Load Cost 3 and RoF 7, standards are 2/8.

73mm SPG-9 – Hungary 378 & 379 have Crew 3 and Load Cost 1, standards are 6/0.

75mm M1897 – Syria 81 has Crew 4, standard is 6.
Cambodia 89 has Speed 1, standard for this class is 0.
Lebanon 97 has Load Cost 2, Romania 308 and Cambodia 89 have 3, Syria 81 has 4, standard in other classes (and in WW2) is 1.

75mm L/18 (Schneider?) – Spain 115 has Speed 1 and Load Cost 2, Italy 120 has 0/1.

75mm Krupp – Green 69, Argentina 65 and Chile 65 have Crew 8, standard is 6.

75mm M8 – Cambodia 90 has Crew 6, Green 70, Brazil 65, Chile 66 and El Salvador 70 have 8, standard in other classes is 5. They all also have Speed 0 (standard in other classes is 2) and Load Cost 3 (standard in other classes is 1).

76.2mm ZiS-3 – Yugoslavia 345-347, Bosnia 341 and Croatia 341 have Crew 7, standard is 6.
Red 255, Cyprus 83 & 570, Finland 154 and Mozambique 40 have Load Cost 1, Yugoslavia 345-347, Bosnia 341 and Croatia 341 have 4, standard is 3.
Egypt 95 has RoF 8, standard is 7.

82mm B-10 – Hungary 376 has Crew 4 and Load Cost 1, standards are 6 & 0.

25-Pdr – Jordan 90, S.Africa 78 and Kenya 85 have Crew 8, standard is 6.
Cyprus 571, S.Africa 78, Kenya 85 and Mozambique 39 have Load Cost 1, Belgium 280 has 4, standard is 3.
Tanzania 85 and Uganda 85 have RoF 6, standard is 7.

85mm M52 – Czech 368 has Speed 1, standard in other (AT) classes is 0.

85mm D-44 – Pakistan 96 has Speed 1, standard is 0.
Mozambique 41 has Load Cost 2, standard is 3.

105mm Modele 13 – Romania 310 and 320 have Size 2, standard from WW2 is 1.

10.5cm K18 – Brazil 66 and Bulgaria 361 have Load Cost 0, standard for 105mm is 3.

10.5cm leFH 18 (and leFH 16) – Norway 78 & 79 have Size 1, standard is 2.

105mm M56 – Cyprus 85 and Malaysia 142 have Crew 5, Australia 207 and Nigeria 88 have 7, Yugoslavia 350 & 351 and Argentina 68 have 8, standard is 6.
Argentina 68, Cyprus 85, Malaysia 142 and Somalia 87 have Speed 1. Whilst this is standard for Pack Howitzer classes, the standard here is 0.
Somalia 87 has Load Cost 2, UK 428, Australia 207, Pakistan 97 and Nigeria 88 have 3, Yugoslavia 350 & 351 have 4, standard is 1.

105mm L118/M119 – Spain 118 has Size 3, standard is 1.
USA 88 and Spain 118 have Crew 8, Turkey 128 and Kenya 88 & 90 have 7, standard is 6.
USA 88 and Kenya 88 & 90 have Load Cost 1, Spain 118 has 4, standard is 3.

105mm M101/102 – Iran 100, Iraq 87, Pakistan 99, Canada 267, W.Germany 166 and Austria 209, 210 & 215 have Crew 6, Uruguay 333 & 334 have 9, standard is 8.
Jordan 92 has Speed 1, standard is 0.
Yugoslavia 349, Bosnia 342 and Croatia 345 have Load Cost 4, Jordan 92 and Mozambique 43 have 2, USA 87 has 1, standard is 3.

107mm B-11 – Hungary 377 has Crew 5, standard is 6. It also has Load Cost 1, standard is 0.
Poland 377 and Hungary 377 have Speed 1, standard is 3.
Poland 377 has RoF 5, standard is 6.

122mm M31/37 – N.Korea 643 has Size 3, standard is 2. It also has RoF 4, standard is 6.
Albania 75 has Crew 7, standard is 8.
Red 259, Cuba 87, Angola 91, Lebanon 102, Tanzania 90 and Uganda 91 have Load Cost 0, Finland 161 has 3, standard is 4.

122mm M-30 (M1938) – Poland 91 & 92, Czech 91 and Hungary 91 have Size 3, standard is 2.
Albania 76 has Crew 7, S.Yemen 101 has 6, Zimbabwe 75 has 12, standard is 8.
Zimbabwe 75 has Load Cost 2, Egypt 96, Iraq 88, Mujahadeen 57, Afghanistan 57, Libya 98, Red 257, Ethiopia 98, S.Yemen 101 and Mozambique 44 have 3, Yugoslavia 352 & 353 have 5, standard is 4.

122mm D-74 – Iraq 90, Cuba 88 and Nigeria 92 have Crew 7, standard is 8.
Russia 224 has Load Cost 3, standard is 4.

122mm D-30 – Czech 92 and Hungary 92 have Size 3, Finland 162 has 1, standard is 2.
Crews are 7 or 8, fairly evenly split.
Tanzania 91 has Load Cost 0, Iran 101, Mujahadeen 59, Afghanistan 59, Libya 99, Ethiopia 99, Finland 160 & 162 and Mozambique 45 have 3, Yugoslavia 354 and Croatia 354 have 5, standard is 4.
Egypt 97 has RoF 7, standard is 6.

130mm M46 – Red 261 and Finland 164 & 165 have Size 3, PLO 104 has 1, standard is 2.
Israel 225, Thailand 88, Eritrea 90 and Somalia 91 have Crew 9, standard is 8. They also have Load Cost 4, standard is 3.
Egypt 98 has RoF 7, standard is 5.

5.5 Inch – Pakistan 101 and Portugal 90 have Size 1, Sudan 108 and S.Yemen 104 have 3, standard is 2.
India 94 and Pakistan 101 have Crew 8, Portugal 90 and Zimbabwe 78 have 11, standard is 9.
India 94 and Pakistan 101 have Load Cost 3, standard is 4.

15cm sFH 18 – Brazil 73 has Size 2 and Crew 9, standards are 3/11.

152mm Type 66 – Albania 80 has Crew 8, standard is 11.

152mm ML-20 – Finland 167 has Load Cost 3, standard is 4.
N.Korea 644 has RoF 4, standard is 5.

152mm D-1 – Mozambique 47 has Size 2, standard is 3.
Mozambique 47 has Crew 10, Algeria 135 has 11, Bulgaria 373 has 12, standard is 8.
Bulgaria 373 has Load Cost 3, Viet Cong 146 & 148 have 5, standard is 4.
Egypt 99 and Russia 425 have RoF 4, standard is 5.

152mm D-20 – Angola 95 has Size 1, Slovakia 46 has 2, standard is 3.
Slovakia 46 has Crew 7, Russia 466, E.Germany 36 and Nicaragua 74 have 10, standard is 8.
Nicaragua 74 has Load Cost 0, Finland 170 has 3, Viet Cong 147 has 5, standard is 4.

152mm 2A36 – Finland 171 has Crew 8 and Load Cost 3, standards are 10/4.

155mm TR F1 – Taiwan 92 has Size 0, standard is 3.
France 418 and Taiwan 92 have Crew 7, Cyprus 87 & 88 have 8. I believe 8 is correct, but without reference to Foss or Hogg, I can’t confirm it.
Taiwan 92 has Load Cost 0, France 418 has 4, others have 3.
Cyprus 87 has RoF 6, standard is 4.

155mm FH-70 – Turkey 132 has Crew 11, standard is 8 or 9. It also has Load Cost 2, standard is 4.

155mm FH-77 – Nigeria 97 & 98 have Crew 12 and Load Cost 0, standards are 8/4.

155mm G-5 – Iraq 94 has Size 3 and Crew 8, standards are 2/11.

155mm M2 – Jordan 94 and Pakistan 102 & 103 have Size 2, Denmark 88 has 1, standard is 3.
S.Korea 91 and Taiwan 91 have Load Cost 0, standard is 4.

155mm M114 – Jordan 95 has Size 2, standard is 3.
Libya 104 has Crew 8, USA 89 has 12, standard is 11.
USA 89 has Load Cost 3, standard is 4.

155mm M198 – USA 90 and Iraq 844 have Crew 12, standard is 11. They also have Load Cost 3, standard is 4.

155mm M777 – Poland 224 has Crew 6, standard is 11 (USMC) or 12 (USA/Canada). It also has RoF 7, standard is 4.

180mm S-23 – India 97 has Crew 12, standard is 10.
Egypt 101 has RoF 5, standard is 4.

Richard H

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The other single artillery pieces.

Class 154 – Howitzer

Poland 380 and Belgium 450 are the only units with a FC and Rangefinder rating.

Belgium 450 is the only Size 0 unit.

Viet Cong 139 is called ‘105mm Type 91’. However it has a 75mm weapon as primary armament. The Type 91 would need to be imported from WW2.

Bulgaria 355 is Size 3, 75mm pieces (the nearest apart from Belgium 450) are Size 1.

Belgium 450 has Load Cost 2, Bulgaria 355 has 3, Belgium 451 has 4, other 75mm pieces have 1.

122mm M-30 – Spain 120 has Size 3, others have 2.

122mm D-30 – Bosnia 354 has Crew 7, standard is 8.

Indonesia 78 is Size 4, other 122mm pieces are Size 2.


Class 184 – Airborne Field Howitzer

NVA 398 has FC and Rangefinder ratings. However, unlike others in other classes, it’s more like a secondary light AT piece.


Class 196 – Pack Howitzer

USMC 805, Mujahadeen 53 and Czech 540 are the only units with FC and Rangefinder ratings.

73mm SPG-9 – Viet Cong 116 has Size 1, standard is 0.
Sudan 285 and Uganda 345 have Speed 1, Viet Cong 116 has 5, standard in this class is 4.

75mm M8 – El Salvador 165 and Nicaragua 165 have Speed 1, standard is 2.

75mm Schneider – Spain 111 has RoF 6, Italy 126 has 7. Standard for 75mm in this class is 7.

75mm M20 (and derivatives) – N.Korea 556, Albania 57, Angola 346, Cambodia 557, Sudan 286, Rhodesia 207 and Tanzania 350 have Size 0, standard for this class is 1.
S.Korea 76 has Crew 4, standard for this class is 6.
Sudan 286, El Salvador 167 and Nicaragua 167 have Speed 1, N.Yemen 288 has 2, China 401, N.Korea 556, S.Korea 76, Taiwan 76, Cambodia 557 and Rhodesia 207 have 4, standard is 3.

76.2mm M1938 – Albania 55 has Crew 6 and Load Cost 0, standard is 5/1.

82mm B-10 (and derivatives) – PLO 120, China 402 & 403, Viet Cong 118, Zimbabwe 50 and Mozambique 165 have Size 1, all others have 0.
Sudan 287 and Uganda 347 have Speed 1, Algeria 110 and Chad 110 have 2, Viet Cong 118 has 4, standard is 3.

84mm Carl Gustav – N.Yemen 287 has Speed 3, Mujahadeen 54, Libya 93, Angola 348 and Sudan 284 have 4, standard is 6.

90mm M67 – S.Korea 77 has Crew 4, standard for this class is 6.
El Salvador 168 has Speed 1, Saudi 288 has 2, standard for this class is 3.

105mm M56 – Saudi 286, Sudan 283, N.Yemen 286, Ecuador 164, El Salvador 166 and Nicaragua 166 have Crew 6, standard is 5. They also have Load Cost 2, standard is 1.
Nigeria 351 has Speed 0, Green 166 has 2, standard is 1.

106mm M40 RCL – Nigeria 350 has Size 0, standard is 1.
Algeria 111, Chad 111 and Nicaragua 168 have Speed 1, Malaysia 137 and Zimbabwe 52 have 2, Nigeria 350 has 4, standard is 3.

107mm B-11 – Afghanistan 54, Libya 94, Angola 349, Ethiopia 91 and Eritrea 102 have Size 0, standard is 1.
Uganda 349 has Crew 8, standard is 6.
Uganda 349 has Speed 1, Viet Cong 119, Zimbabwe 51 and Mozambique 166 have 2, standard is 3.

Richard H

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I guess you've forgotten that the game includes beach assault landings making coastal batteries relevant though not in the case of that particular gun.



Don

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I admit I forgot - never played one. Although, guns of such caliber usually were pointed towards sea only...

Michal

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Try one in winter in the north for unique autogenerated maps.

Don

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AP rounds = Cluster Munitions in any arty class

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Artillery pieces aren't given FC/RF ratings.
Anti-tank guns are.

FC/RF have little (if any) effect on indirect fire in WinSPMBT.

Now artillery pieces that are commonly used as AT-Guns (i.e. the Soviet 76mm Zis3) are often given FC/RF ratings to reflect their dual use role.

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OFF-map artillery has no need for fire control or range finders. Those have no role in purely indirect fire.

ON-map field artillery pieces that might want to plink at tanks etc. for a brief moment before inevitably dying, may have them of course.

Andy

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@ Don - doh: I must be getting figure-crazy!

@ Andy - yup, it includes all the usual suicidal suspects:)

Richard H

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The Self-Propelled stuff.

Class 18 – Assault Gun

SU-76M – Russia 471 and Bulgaria 22 have Steel TR 2, standard is 1.

SU-85 – N.Yemen 50 has Speed 17, standard is 19.

SU-100 – Afghanistan 315-318, Angola 33 and S.Yemen 41 have Speed 19, standard is 17.

SU-100M – Iraq 346 has Survivability 4, standard is 3.

ISU-122 - Iraq 347 & 348 have Size 5, others have 4.
Viet Cong 35 has Survivability 5, standard is 3. It also has Armour 14/10/7/12/10/7/3, standard is 14/9/8/9/8/8/3.

Archer – S.Yemen 40 has Size 4 and Survivability 4, standards are 3/3.

M10 Achilles – Belgium 390 & 391 have Size 5 and Survivability 4, standard is 4/3.

M18 Hellcat – Yugoslavia 26 has Survivability 3, standard is 4.

M36 Jackson – Belgium 392 has Survivability 3, standard is 4.


Class 21 – Self-Propelled Artillery

75mm M20 (and derivatives) – Viet Cong 45 has RoF 6, standard is 7.

107mm B-11 – Uganda 63 has RoF 7, standard is 6.

M77 Dana – Czech 541 has Survivability 5, standard is 4.

AMX Mk.61 – Netherlands 76 has Speed 22, standard is 17.

AMX Mk.F3 – Netherlands 77 has Crew 4, all others have 8.
France 47 and Sudan 237 have Survivability 4, standard is 3.
France 47 and Gulf 235 have Steel TF 4, standard is 2.

AUF-1 – Gulf 239, Iraq 357 and Saudi 238 have RoF 4, standard is 6.

Krab – Poland 37 has RoF 8. Nearest comparison is the UK AS-90, which has 4.

Koksan 170mm – Iran 46 has Size 5, standard is 6. It also has RoF 4, standard is 2.

SU-76 – N.Korea 275 has TR Armour 2, standard is 1.

2S1 Gvozdika – Sudan 238 has Size 5, standard is 4. It also has Speed/Swim Speed 18/0, standard is 21/2. Although some forums call the Abu Fatima a licence-built version, according to SIPRI they are a straight purchase from Belarus. This would make the armour rating spurious (it would be correct if the story of a D-30 turret on a T-55 chassis could be verified).
Finland 327 has Survivability 3, standard is 4.
Sudan 238 has RoF 5, standard is 6.
Russia 500 has Hull Armour 2/1/1, standard is 3/2/1.

2S3 Akatsiya – Russia 501-503 have Speed 20, standard is 18. They also have RoF 4, standard is 5.
Bulgaria 40 has Survivability 3, NVA 40 and Cuba 211 have 5, standard is 4.
Russia 501-503 have Steel TF 3, standard is 4.

2S5 Giatsint – Ukraine 505 has Speed 18, standard is 21. It also has Armour 2/1/1/2/1/1/1, standard is 3/1/1/3/1/1/0.

2S7 Pion – Poland 38 has Size 5, standard is 6.
Russia 812 and Kenya 61 have RoF 2, others have 3.

Bkv 151 – Sweden 414 has RoF 14. Should it be 4?

3.7” Portee – Egypt 335 has RoF 7, Sudan 235 has 6. Standard from WW2 is 6.

Sexton – India 104, Tanzania 60 and Uganda 60 have RoF 6, standard is 7.

Jeep (and derivatives) – Libya 365, Cambodia 276-279 and Uganda 61-63 have Size 3, standard is 2.

M12 GMC – Taiwan 37 has Survivability 3, standard is 4.

M37 – USA 511 has Survivability 3, Spain 76 has 4.

M40 – France 35 has Size 8, Italy 70 has 4, standard is 6.
Italy 70 has Survivability 3, standard is 2.
France 35 has Armour 7/3/1/2/1/1/0, Italy 70 has 6/4/4/3/2/2/1, standard is 9/4/4/3/2/2/0.

M44 – W.Germany 116 has Size 4, Jordan 302 has 5, standard is 6.
Italy 72 has Survivability 3, standard is 4.

M52 – Italy 71 has Size 4, Turkey 86 has 6, standard is 5.
Portugal 34 has Survivability 3, standard is 4.
W.Germany 115 has Armour 20/9/5/2/1/1/1, Japan 61 and Portugal 34 have 2/1/1/2/1/1/1, standard is 4/2/2/2/1/1/1.

M55 – Belgium 43 has Size 4, USMC 39 has 5, standard is 6.
W.Germany 117 has Armour 20/9/5/2/1/1/1, standard is 4/2/2/2/1/1/1.

M107 – NVA 41 has Survivability 2, Greece 95, Turkey 93, Spain 83, Italy 74 and W.Germany 101 have 3, standard is 4.
USMC 878 has RoF 3, standard is 4. It also has no ‘turret’ armour, standard is 4/3/3/0.
Netherlands 78, Greece 95 and Spain 83 have Top Armour 1, standard is 0.

M108 – USA 36 and Australia 336 have no Swim Speed, standard is 2. They also have Survivability 3, standard is 4.
NVA 42 and ARVN 22 have Top Armour 1, standard is 2.

M109 – Denmark 40 has RoF 6, standard is 4.

M109A2/A3 – Portugal 35 & 36 have Survivability 3, standard is 4.
Denmark 41 has RoF 6, Israel 516 has 5, standard is 4.

M110/M110A1 – Belgium 44, Netherlands 83, Greece 98 and W.Germany 104 have Survivability 3, Taiwan 44 has 5, standard is 4.
Japan 56 has Top Armour 1, standard is 0.
USMC 879 has no ‘Turret’ armour, standard is 4/3/3.

M110A2 – Pakistan 217, Netherlands 84, Greece 97, Turkey 95, Spain 84 and W.Germany 105 have Survivability 3, standard is 4.
Japan 57 and Turkey 95 have Top Armour 1, standard is 0.


Class 39 – SP Gun

82mm B-10 – E.Germany 720 has RoF 9, standard is 7.

107mm Rocket – Mujahadeen 146 has RoF 1, Afghanistan 155 has 9. Both have the same primary weapon.

BRDM-2 – Afghanistan 154 has RoF 9, standard for the AT-3 is 4.

ISU-122 – Sizes are split almost evenly: Poland 709 & 710, Iraq 572 & 573 and Red 512 have 5, NVA 409 & 410, Hungary 25 and Viet Cong 25 have 4.
NVA 409 & 410 and Viet Cong 25 have Survivability 5, standard is 3.
Poland 709 & 710 have RoF 5, standard is 6.
Viet Cong 25 has Armour 14/10/7/12/10/7/3, Poland 709 & 710 have 19/9/9/10/8/6/3 (same as ISU-152), standard is 14/9/8/9/8/8/3.

ISU-152 – Poland 27 and Iraq 574 have Size 5, standard is 4.
Syria 302 has Survivability 5, standard is 3.

SU-76 – Poland 704, China 510 and N.Korea 460 have Steel TR 2, others have 1.

SU-85 – E.Germany 24 and Algeria 525 have 9/6/6/8/6/4/2, Czech 24 has 10/6/6/9/6/4/2, Poland 705 and Red 509 have 8/6/6/9/5/5/2, which is the standard for my version (I’m missing the latest patch) of WW2. My
suspicion is that once it’s run through AP Calc, the E.German figure will be the closest.
I’m not mentioning Load Costs (10-29).

SU-100 – E.Germany 26 and Viet Cong 28 have Speed 15, Viet Cong 27 has 19, standard is 17. I suspect the first two are SU-100Ms, as they have the 14.5mm AAMG.
Viet Cong 27 & 28 have Survivability 4, standard is 3.

SU-100M – Syria 300 has Speed 17, standard is 15.
Algeria 527 has Survivability 4, standard is 3.

Archer – Gulf 490 has Size 4 and Survivability 4, standards are 3/3.

Jeep RCL (including GAZ/UAZ) – Nigeria 220, Eritrea 220-222, Tanzania 220 & 221 and Uganda 220, 222 & 223 have Swim Speeds. No other Jeeps have this.
S.Yemen 226 & 227, Eritrea 220-222 and the Ugandan units have Speed 29, Denmark 337 has 21, Argentina 84 has 26, standard is 24.
Libya 225, Tanzania 220 & 221 and Uganda 220, 222 & 223 have Size 3, standard is 2.

M10 Achilles – Egypt 321 has Armour 6/3/3/8/3/3/0, standard is 7/3/2/9/3/3/0.

M36 Jackson – Iran 414 and Italy 34 have Size 5, standard is 4. They also have Speed 15, standard is 16.

M113 RCL – S.Korea 451-453 have the AAMG in Weapon Slot 1, but retain RoF 6.
Pakistan 206 (same platform) has Size 2, standard is 3.


Class 130 – Self-Propelled Howitzer

Abbot – UK 401 has Size 4, Libya 355 has 5.

Jeep RCL – Nigeria 371 & 372 have Size 3, standard is 2.
Jordan 298 has Speed 21, standard is 24.

Sexton – S.Yemen 235 has RoF 6, standard is 7.


Class 139 – Self-Propelled Gun

UK 238 & 239 have Nation 0. 239 is a template unit.

Richard H

Re: Anomaly reports
 

.....apparetly you are not set up to receive PMs.......

Re: Anomaly reports
 

By the way, Gvozdika shouldn't carry any AAMG.

Michal

Re: Anomaly reports
 

Well the Russian one doesn't have it so why not tell me which OOB you are looking at so I don't have to guess?? MAYBE it's Sudan... maybe not...IDK and *MAYBE* the Abu Fatima-1 is a Gvozdika but that's not the Gvozdika Icon, it's a PTZ-89 so maybe it does carry a AAMG becasue the Chinese one does.

There are error reporting procedures in the sticky section. Please read them. It makes things much clearer for everyone

Thanks

Don

Re: Anomaly reports
 

Don, PM received and responded to.

Richard H

Re: Anomaly reports
 

Sorry - most Gvozdikas in oobs that I've examined in detail already had AAMG, so I thought it was a common mistake. Anyway, I thought, that this is the thread for mass anomalies through oobs, so it's a good place to report this one. There is AAMG in Polish, Czech, Hungarian, Libyan, East German (SFL M-1974), Yugoslavian and maybe also other oobs.

I didn't refer to Fatima-1 at all.

Regards,
Michal

Re: Anomaly reports
 

Didn't get it.....

Don


OK Got it now..........

Re: Anomaly reports
 

Richard referred to it and I first checked the country of origin and it didn't have one so rather than make more work than I need I thought it best to point out that to get things fixed I need clear information

Don

Re: Anomaly reports
 

I'm spending way too much time on this but after reviewing what we had that unit ( Sudan 238 ) IS NOT a Gvozdika. It's **REPORTEDLY** a cobbled together vehicle from D-30 artillery pieces mounted on T-54/55 chassis and that Icon was used because it's rarely used anywhere else and was "close enough" for something no photos seem to exist.......and it just might have an AAMG.... or not...but it's not a Gvozdika but since it's a gun mounted on a t-55 size five is "close enough".

However, I have noted the issue with the Gvozdika AAMG's but I can assure everyone there is NO way all of these issues will be addressed one way or the other before the next release.


Don

Re: Anomaly reports
 

Sorry about that one, forgot to check the icon.

Armoured Cars etc. BTW I'm working on the premise that all vehicles should still be at least Weight 10.

Class 11 – Armoured Cars

Israel 90 & 91, Turkey 49, S.Africa 12 & 13, Switzerland 897, Cambodia 485, Nigeria 285, Finland 365 & 366 and Indonesia 474 & 478 have Load Cost less than 10.

Switzerland 872 has RoF 3, standard is 9.

Italy 40 has Crew 1. I think the correct figure is 3.

EE-3 Jaracara – Cyprus 21 has Speed 28, standard is 34.

EE-9 Cascavel – Green 55-57, Ecuador 52 and Paraguay 21 have Speed 20, standard is 28.

Marmon-Herrington – Egypt 259 has a third weapon, but no ammunition.

BTR-60 – Cuba 306 has RoF 9, standard is 6.

V-150 – Portugal 339 has Crew 1, standard is 3.


Class 32 – Scout Vehicle

Poland 400, 699 & 724, France 71, USA 326 & 328, USMC 550, China 461, Australia 56, Iraq 289, India 220, Pakistan 64, Netherlands 45-47, Canada 169, Greece 625 & 626, Spain 190 & 191, Italy 216-219, Denmark 344, Czech 400, Hungary 398, Green 303, Switzerland 52, Cambodia 496, Chile 298 & 299, Nigeria 308 and Peru 298 have Load Cost less than 10.

YJL – Egypt 483 has RoF 90, standard is 9.

AB3 Black Iris – Jordan 345 has RoF 6, standard is 9.

BRDM-2 Szakal – Poland 579 has HEAT Armour 33 all round. Seems a lot without a speed reduction for weight.

Santana Anibal – Spain 610 & 611 have RoF 0, standards are 9 & 4 respectively.

Humber Scout – France 72 has Speed 24, Norway 25 has 30.

Daimler Dingo – Kenya 303 and Tanzania 303 have Armour 4/1/2/3/1/2/0, standard is 1/1/1/1/1/1/0.

Land-Rover – PLO 312, Mujahadeen 292 and Afghanistan 292 have RoF 6, standard is 9.

Shorland – Malaysia 16 has Size 4 and Speed 18, standards are 2/24.
Thailand 289 has Survivability 1, others have 4.

M3 Halftrack – Iran 451 and Gulf 308 have Speed 18, standard is 24.

M8 Greyhound – Uruguay 415 has Speed 27, standard is 20.

WC.52 – ARVN 142 has RoF 6, standard is 9.

Lynx – Canada 169 has Armour 7/4/2/7/4/2/1, standard is 4/3/2/4/3/2/1.



Class 57 – FO Vehicle

USMC 226, Australia 229, India 256, Pakistan 234, Turkey 216 & 219, Spain 307 & 308, S.Africa 381, Thailand 215, Ethiopia 544 and Sweden 76, 77 & 109 have Load Cost less than 10.

W.Germany 123 has RoF 6, standard is 9.

Observation Truck – Jordan 415 and Saudi 315 have RoF 6, standard is 9.

BRM-23 – Bulgaria 201 has RoF 4, standard is 8.

AMX-10 – Iraq 396 has Speed 24, Chile 225 has 25, standard is 21.

UAZ-469 – Cuba 391, Algeria 470, Angola 391, Nigeria 391, Eritrea 391 and Uganda 391 have RoF 6, standard for AAMG is 9.

Daimler Dingo – Ethiopia 546 has Armour 4/1/2/3/1/2/0, standard is 1/1/1/1/1/1/0.

Ferret – UK 302, Green 227 and Malaysia 72 have Size 4, standard is 2.

Spartan – Belgium 224 has RoF 4, standard is 9.

Jeep – Kenya 391 has RoF 6, standard is 9.

M3 Halftrack – Iran 472 and Gulf 317 have Speed 18, standard is 24.

M4 Sherman – France 538 has RoF 7, standard is 9.

M577 – Spain 310 & 312 have Size 4, Speed 31 and Swim Speed 3, standards are 3/23/2. They are also the only armed versions apart from Italy 405, and have Armour 3/2/1/3/2/1/1 (as do Norway 57 and Italy 405), standard is 5/4/3/5/4/3/2. Special Spanish version?


Class 108 – Heavy Armoured Car

EE-9 Cascavel – Brazil 470 has RoF 6, standard for the 37mm is 8.

AML-90 – Argentina 555 has Survivability 2, standard is 4.

Richard H